He certainly didn't have a choice. From his perspective, we just decided to attack him just before we left Braavos, which led to series of paranoid decisions delivering him into the hands of Sseth.
There was the issue with him disappearing people into his personal totally not a sex dungeon so he could siphon their sweet magic blood at his leisure. That didn't mean we were going to outright kill him, but it's fairly reasonable to expect people to react poorly to that behavior.
 
There was the issue with him disappearing people into his personal totally not a sex dungeon so he could siphon their sweet magic blood at his leisure. That didn't mean we were going to outright kill him, but it's fairly reasonable to expect people to react poorly to that behavior.

He was totally doing the same thing in Pentos when we suddenly shanked him. All's fair in all that.

I wonder what New Tor is doing nowadays... Hmm, let's see...

I mean, i wouldn't say no to another opportunity to steal a divine kidney ngl

Why steal a kidney, when we could wrestle the god into a knot and feed Him to Yss.

Yss might just tear off a section of the Dreamlands for our Imperial Diety for it.
 
You know it says interesting things about how society in general and the Internet in particular work that once upon a time when Lovecraft made up the concept of the Eldritch Abomination, they were things of pure horror, even when it was something as mild as fish-men. Now the fishmen are a cliche and the kind of imagined horrors that would make Lovecraft a nervous wreck... well more of a nervous wreck get made into memes and songs. :V

I think it might be a case of having a different relationship with the concept on the unknowable and with horror rather than us being just numb to particular incarnations of it.
 
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You know it says interesting things about how society in general and the Internet in particular work that once upon a time when Lovecraft made up the concept of the Eldritch Abomination, they were things of pure horror, even when it was something as mild as fish-men. Now the fishmen are a cliche and the kind of imagined horrors that would make Lovecraft a nervous wreck... well more of a nervous wreck get made into memes and songs. :V

I think it might be a case of having a different relationship with the concept on the unknowable and with horror rather than us being just numb to particular concepts
Media saturation removes a lot of the shock value out of something, and then there's also the fact that we tackle both unknown factors, as well as horror, in a different way... also, indeed, consume media containing these things with kind of a speculative / titillating fashion.

The horror genre needs to take a special, novel kind of approach and bypass expectations and work its way under your guard and any preconceived notions before it manages to unsettle the average person these days.
 
Media saturation removes a lot of the shock value out of something, and then there's also the fact that we tackle both unknown factors, as well as horror, in a different way... also, indeed, consume media containing these things with kind of a speculative / titillating fashion.

The horror genre needs to take a special, novel kind of approach and bypass expectations and work its way under your guard and any preconceived notions before it manages to unsettle the average person these days.

Hmm... true I do not think HP Lovecraft would have ever anticipated horror, much less his own work consumed as titillation, but there are plenty of people who do, which I guess takes us back to Slaanesh neatly closing the circle. All things told I would say it is a good thing that we evolved as we did as a society because a great deal of Lovecraft's genuine revulsion and horror came from being scientifically 'semi-literate' (the Color Out of Space comes to mind) and a good bit of the rest was him being racist (anything to do with the fish men or cults that served the elder gods).

Horror as titilation is far preferable to either of those.
 
Rereading old discussion is crazy. One one page there's a long argument about Viserys being a good person and an ideal dictator, and on the next page his posters subconscious is like "what if we waged a land war to conquer Qohor and harvest the corpses of their soldiers?"
 
Rereading old discussion is crazy. One one page there's a long argument about Viserys being a good person and an ideal dictator, and on the next page his posters subconscious is like "what if we waged a land war to conquer Qohor and harvest the corpses of their soldiers?"
I mean a lot of these things are a bit tongue in cheek, but if you take everything in the same tone (text being bad for detecting facetiousness levels)... then there are those who suggest something tongue in cheek but being perfectly willing to go that far.
 
All the better if it drags on, since I've still got some programming to do before we are read for the system change.

And it increasingly looks like I got Programmers Block.
 
Bloodraven has a dragon, Jon Snow has a Dragon, Monford has a dragon, now we just need Aemon to kill himself and get a dragon and we're all set.
 
Rhaenys can wait a few years.

Laenor should get one, he's family enough and loyal.

Lemme see...

1. Pink as the first hints of dawn's light -- retrieved from the devils -- gained on the Thirteenth Day of the Third Month 293 AC -- promised to Zherys on the Fourth Day of the Fourth Month 293 AC until Zherys ended up binding Caraxes the Blood Wyrm instead on the Second Day of the Eleventh Month 293 AC.
Rhaenys.

And--

9. Copper dotted with specks of what almost seem like fresh blood -- recovered from the palace in Lyceos -- gained on the Twenty-Ninth Day of the Sixth Month 293 AC
Laenor.


We should maybe see if we an induce Dragons to mate. These things aren't as important strategic resources anymore, but they are still strategic resources. They do two things:

Take an NPC and turn them into a Paragon (Level 10 potential) which also makes it more likely that they can be tempered into a better asset with the right incentives.

And creates another armored flying tank with a flamethrower attached to it with the only real investment being time and some specialty equipment. While I don't doubt that the dragons weren't the top of the list of worries for most of Valyria's enemies who weren't puny mortal empires, it's not exactly fun to face down fucking three dozen of them teleported into close range by their Level 10 teleportation capable riders.
 
No one is too young or too old to hold some grandeur of power! I say we gift her one on her next nameday.
Only two more years. If you wouldn't give a toddler a knife, don't give them a dragon.
Rhaenys can wait a few years.

Laenor should get one, he's family enough and loyal.

Lemme see...


Rhaenys.

And--


Laenor.


We should maybe see if we an induce Dragons to mate. These things aren't as important strategic resources anymore, but they are still strategic resources. They do two things:

Take an NPC and turn them into a Paragon (Level 10 potential) which also makes it more likely that they can be tempered into a better asset with the right incentives.

And creates another armored flying tank with a flamethrower attached to it with the only real investment being time and some specialty equipment. While I don't doubt that the dragons weren't the top of the list of worries for most of Valyria's enemies who weren't puny mortal empires, it's not exactly fun to face down fucking three dozen of them teleported into close range by their Level 10 teleportation capable riders.
Good picks. I'm also thinking the following for Aemon once he gets around to killing himself.
10. Ash grey fading to black towards the base -- recovered from the palace in Lyceos -- gained on the Twenty-Ninth Day of the Sixth Month 293 AC
It's got that "man of the watch" vibe to it.
 
-Fear of the Grave (Is deathly afraid of the Undead and unlikely to work well with them)
This is a problem. Governmental positions shouldn't be filled with people who are completely opposed to reconciliation of their personal views with the policies the State is clearly in favor of. This guy, competent as he likely is, is liable to be knee-capped for promotion above upper-management subordinate level, unless he can overcome this prejudice.

Given our recent policies regarding sentient undead, we clearly intend to create a number of niches for them, subject to larger scrutiny already thanks to many having dangerous innate abilities. though probably no more than any sufficiently powerful mage. But that level of attention and the complexity with which we created roles for them would further reflect our estimation of their value, inflating their prestige and social interactions with them.

Which is a shame, because if he was put forward as a top-level candidate from among the New Men for this role, with the fact that he is from that peer group being a big plus, he must have outsized value which is considered commiserate with the negatives he carries.

-Foes in Odd Places (Has made quite a few enemies in his time as a Member of the Windward Society and few would be fooled by a new face)
Won't he outlive a number of them? A lot of them are probably on death's door step. And while top level government cronies can easily get life extensions from us, we've deliberately strangled easy access to it elsewhere, or put irritating, inheritance related road blocks to getting it legitimately by other means. That would considerably slow down anyone with a grudge and a habit for long-term schemes against him or us, and the desperate ones who act hastily will just get caught out by the Inquisition. Seems like a win-win. I think Darwin Awards were mostly handed out post Three Daughters, but we have a closet full of them still ready to go.

-The Lesser City (Many a Braavosi magnate will see the naming of a Lorathi to the position as an affront)
So? We made the Iron Bank, their bank, of which many major influential trade magnates are Keyholders of, our Central Bank, gave it a seat on the Curia, formed a Financial Council between two other Great Powers to monitor our fiat currency tied to very stable foreign cash. We made many small-time merchants insanely rich with our economic policies and diplomatic accomplishments (opening up trade all over), made it safe and easy with magic and long-range communications, and made already rich magnates even more stupendously wealthy.

Along with inflating the prestige of Braavos by doubling its remit of governance in landmass and population, and having no less than three Braavosi among our Companions, one of which we are marrying, with the only Volantene who could be viewed from an outside perspective as a close family friend being a former slave. To a Braavosi, that puts a mild damper on the "perfidious Volantene influence" narrative, at the very least.

Anyone still mad after all that can really sit and spin when Lorath gets one large boost to its prestige... an indirect one at that.

Also what the fuck, his ancestry would really be an issue in a place as cosmopolitan as Braavos? He was a fucking Braavosi citizen for decades!

-Firebrand (Very Economically and Socially Liberal)
-Dark Moods (Like many archons still struggling with the Fall of Heaven)
This could probably be dealt with with a few social interactions going all out, though with the likely end result being him Falling. Which could be disconcerting to people placing intense scrutiny on the Ministers and their activities (since they have not inconsiderable power and influence from their own posts).

[] Shad Ibm Mal
+Extraplanar Connections
+Master Builder (Skilled at infrastructure projects)
+Finance Expert (Skilled in the gathering of gold)
-Taxman (Being known for parting people from their money makes few friends)
-Stranger in a strange land (Is not yet immersed in the politics and culture of his new land)
Perfect fit for Minister of Public Works, actually.

I'm doing an examination of the other Ministry posts and thinking up suggestions from known characters right now.
 
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