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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Artemis1992 said:
I mean, if I had a portal next to my hive, I would put up some defences right there to prevent people from securing a foothold.
But then, now that they are all retreating through the portals is propably the best chance we'll get.

Edit: Shutting down the gates from our side would be safer.
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The general consensus has always been to keep the gates, since the gold mines are on the PoE side.
 
Azel said:
I'm not exactly convinced of the value of this either, since we can just plop down a Terminus somewhere without a Formian infestation, but I don't think this is the right moment to argue over this.
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Okay, worst case we'd just loose some replacable constructs to the defences on the other side and Qyburn decides in the field what to do anyway.

[X] Azel

Also for your fight-resolution, are things going fine?
 
Artemis1992 said:
Okay, worst case we'd just loose some replacable constructs to the defences on the other side and Qyburn decides in the field what to do anyway.
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Nearly exclusively Undead and Plants, so we are basically risking some money here, not even crafting capacity.
Artemis1992 said:
Also for your fight-resolution, are things going fine?
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Lost most of yesterday to exhaustion since my sleep rythm is... nope...

But progress is being made. I hope I can finish the rudimentary map system today so that we can test things with long-range support like Teleporting devils.
 
It just occurred to me, is it possible for Tywin to flee to someplace unknown once he realizes that the war is lost? Does his pride allow him that? Or could he try to deny Viserys that particular act by killing himself and blowing up the Rock and the rest Lannisport to deny Viserys his life's work?
 
Trevor23 said:
It just occurred to me, is it possible for Tywin to flee to someplace unknown once he realizes that the war is lost? Does his pride allow him that? Or could he try to deny Viserys that particular act by killing himself and blowing up the Rock and the rest Lannisport to deny Viserys his life's work?
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The former is unlikely, both due to pride and due to whatever deals he made to bind his family to him.
If he can't deliver I doubt he has any place to flee too, the Formians won't take him after that, the major powers on Earth and Air are closer to us, we don't know of contacts he has anywhere else.

Explosions seem more likely, but we have foiled far more powerful and spiteful attempts at such a thing recently with the Ironborn, so I'm optimistic we can deal with it.
 
Artemis1992 said:
The former is unlikely, both due to pride and due to whatever deals he made to bind his family to him.
If he can't deliver I doubt he has any place to flee too, the Formians won't take him after that, the major powers on Earth and Air are closer to us, we don't know of contacts he has anywhere else.

Explosions seem more likely, but we have foiled far more powerful and spiteful attempts at such a thing recently with the Ironborn, so I'm optimistic we can deal with it.
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It says something when you get a hot take like "unless you can create a magical explosion from energy built up over 8,000 years, you are small peanuts".
 
Crake said:
It says something when you get a hot take like "unless you can create a magical explosion from energy built up over 8,000 years, you are small peanuts".
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Well, realistically, Tywins options would be more explosives or Wildfyre caches. Neither of which we found so far and both things we can deal with fairly easily with the forces we brought.
 
Azel said:
Well, realistically, Tywins options would be more explosives or Wildfyre caches. Neither of which we found so far and both things we can deal with fairly easily with the forces we brought.
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I am pretty sure Tywin would averse to using wild fire if for no other reason then because his pride would not allow him to be compared to Aerys , Tywin seems from all evidence to be a pride before reason type
 
Now that I have thought of Tywin blowing up the Rock and Lannisport to deny assets I can't get the possibility out of my head that Tywin would pull a Bakuda and turn/have turned a portion of the population into living bombs to make the taking of the Rock and Lannisport as grueling as possible. In such a thing possible in-setting, unlikely as it may be?
 
Trevor23 said:
Now that I have thought of Tywin blowing up the Rock and Lannisport to deny assets I can't get the possibility out of my head that Tywin would pull a Bakuda and turn/have turned a portion of the population into living bombs to make the taking of the Rock and Lannisport as grueling as possible. In such a thing possible in-setting, unlikely as it may be?
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We'd have found through divination, there's no good way to either:
a) stitch bombs into lots of people and expect no one to seek help and trigger either detonations or Inquisition looking into it
b) massive amounts of people mysteriously disappearing and not being found via Divination afterwards (being under Mindblank wards, that is).
We'd have heard something if he was going to use people-bombs en-masse.
We had a lot of spies, divination, and even defectors from his ranks, to learn stuff.

No, if anything, he's more likely to blow up the Rock by overloading the ancient uber-wards, or something.
 
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Trevor23 said:
Now that I have thought of Tywin blowing up the Rock and Lannisport to deny assets I can't get the possibility out of my head that Tywin would pull a Bakuda and turn/have turned a portion of the population into living bombs to make the taking of the Rock and Lannisport as grueling as possible. In such a thing possible in-setting, unlikely as it may be?
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Speaking of that, there's still the Illithid sleeper agents scattered throughout the Imperium.

Maybe Qyburn has an idea of how to track them?
 
Duesal said:
Speaking of that, there's still the Illithid sleeper agents scattered throughout the Imperium.

Maybe Qyburn has an idea of how to track them?
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the Gith would be a better lead on that as they have been fighting the mind flayers for their entire recorded history so if anyone would have a realizable sure fire way of sniffing them out its them
 
Duesal said:
Speaking of that, there's still the Illithid sleeper agents scattered throughout the Imperium.

Maybe Qyburn has an idea of how to track them?
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Not really. Their shtick IIRC was explicitly being sleeper agents who acted normally until the DO needed to access override their bodies.

Actually seeing if they are psionic or have alterations in their bodies is simple, but divination won't point toward the sleepers, or we'd have found them all already, and when they're obvious, they would have done something to draw detection, defeating the purpose of preempting sabotage.

They're ideal in that they can be left in place to have some burnable deep cover agents who don't even know they're deep cover. If we point examiners at them, they'll be found, but if they don't go anywhere that lights up aberrant alterations, they won't be found, since their behavior will be normal until they need to be used.
 
Crake said:
Not really. Their shtick IIRC was explicitly being sleeper agents who acted normally until the DO needed to access override their bodies.

Actually seeing if they are psionic or have alterations in their bodies is simple, but divination won't point toward the sleepers, or we'd have found them all already, and when they're obvious, they would have done something to draw detection, defeating the purpose of preempting sabotage.

They're ideal in that they can be left in place to have some burnable deep cover agents who don't even know they're deep cover. If we point examiners at them, they'll be found, but if they don't go anywhere that lights up aberrant alterations, they won't be found, since their behavior will be normal until they need to be used.
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Our biggest lead is tracking down everyone openly displaying psionic power, like Jeyne was. You are of course correct that we've got our hands tied otherwise.
 
On the explosion front it is worth keeping in mind that when you found explosions in KL they were to be used tactically. Not every doomed villain is Aerys levels of destructive.
 
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