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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Ericwinter said:
Pretty sure he picked that one up from another poster, actually.
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picklepikkl said:
@consequences used it in their Hellsing Ultimate Abridged reference, I loved it and used it too, and then a bunch of people started saying it.
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"bunch of people" eventually grew to include the QM.

(Apparently "making sure the original source of a meme gets cited" is so on-brand for me that this time I only have to cite myself from the last time I did it.)

(At what point does "having a brand" degenerate into self-parody?)
 
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Recursive flight school memes, the really recursive ones, melt my brain until it drips out of my ear.

I love them.

And they love me.

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picklepikkl said:
(At what point does "having a brand" degenerate into self-parody?)
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Some point that lies past this one.... but before the point where you are willing to stop.

I'm not saying you have a problem, bro...

but I am alluding to the possibility ;)
 
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Waystones is good. It's something literally nobody else can/will do.

I wouldn't mind picking waystones after the next big arc. This was the K8Peaks arc, and our first arc was Sylvania. So whatever we do next, I'm down for Waystones as Arc 4

but also

Waystones as Arc 3 sounds good. Especially because we've a friend who will be there going
"YOOOO WHAT IS THAT . . . . you should poke it" - Ranald

Waystones as Arc 3 works because we can be based in K8Peaks and socialize fairly easily, will regularly find reasons to travel long distances to have interesting discussions (and maybe help some local issues while we're there. Like when Melkoth fogged some bandits when he came to visit, simply because he could lol), and best of all we make our own schedule!

Unless something weird happens (like Thorgrim collaborating in exchange for us to work on the Dwarven Waystones first and potentially not assist the Eonir) we'll actually not have Divided Loyalties! YAAAYYYY!
And I mean. What are the odds that our knowledge gets into a tug-of-war between the hendge-druid-successors in the Jade College, the Dawi, and the Eonir? Pffft. Basically not even a problem. We're finally going to not have complicated loyalty webs!

And surely the Asur and Slann won't notice or become involved! They're not even part of the quest yet you silly buggers!
 
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Waystone first, I want to get that as done as possible before we die, and everything is inherently risky. Edgelord second, we can really make a lasting great impact on vampland as well as the surrounding areas. Loremaster third, because I have a severe case of dwarf infection. And finally, I just don't like the Empress that much. Like, at all.
 
Mopman43 said:
We wiped out a camp. We definitely didn't wipe out the whole of the Kul.
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We (Lily + Matty) killed 6-8 Shamans and a Champion of Khorne. Unless I'm vastly underestimating the size and strength of these tribes, we may very well have killed the tribe. Definitely not every member or horse, but probably most of the heavy hitters and leadership.
 
Absoloot said:
We (Lily + Matty) killed 6-8 Shamans and a Champion of Khorne. Unless I'm vastly underestimating the size and strength of these tribes, we may very well have killed the tribe. Definitely not every member or horse, but probably most of the heavy hitters and leadership.
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Ah, I think you're miscommunicating. Yeah, everyone in that camp and particular group got murderified, but as I understand the "tribes" consist of many such groups over a large territory.
 
Absoloot said:
We (Lily + Matty) killed 6-8 Shamans and a Champion of Khorne. Unless I'm vastly underestimating the size and strength of these tribes, we may very well have killed the tribe. Definitely not every member or horse, but probably most of the heavy hitters and leadership.
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If the Kul, one of the strongest groups in the steppes, consisted of a few hundred warriors in a single camp, then Kislev and the Empire should consider it a national embarrassment that they were nearly destroyed by these people.
 
Mopman43 said:
We wiped out a camp. We definitely didn't wipe out the whole of the Kul.
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Yeo, it was just a tribe, but a big portion of it, considering how it had a slaaneshi demon (and the cup) in it. So either way, that tribe is probably being ripped apart by its neighbors unless they can stem the bleed.

Also, coincidentally, we just so happened to have greatly enriched a neighboring tribe of theirs, along with the ones who looted the wrecked steam wagon getting a large supply of dwarven steel. So yeah. Bad times to show weakness.
 
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Absoloot said:
We (Lily + Matty) killed 6-8 Shamans and a Champion of Khorne. Unless I'm vastly underestimating the size and strength of these tribes, we may very well have killed the tribe. Definitely not every member or horse, but probably most of the heavy hitters and leadership.
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You are. These are significant societies large enough to be known as distinct, individual tribes half a continent away. We may have razed a major encampment, but such a society would have a number of such plus a constellation of somewhat camps plus uncountable smaller bands. They're ranchers; such a society is not fundamentally centered on conurbations.
 
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Mopman43 said:
If the Kul, one of the strongest groups in the steppes, consisted of a few hundred warriors in a single camp, then Kislev and the Empire should consider it a national embarrassment that they were nearly destroyed by these people.
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Ah, I think I'm not being clear enough. I'm not speaking literally, or perhaps I'm speaking atemporally. The tribe probably has 10s of thousands of warriors, but I doubt they have enough Shamans and spare champions to not be tore apart in the years following this.

With the cup stored here, and the concentration of power, this was likely where the leadership of the tribe was. 2 Mages couldn't kill the Empire, but 2 mages attacking a meeting of the Elector counts with the emperor in attendance could very well do enough damage(like kill everyone in attendance) that in the years to follow, what comes out the other end isnt the Empire.
 
Absoloot said:
Ah, I think I'm not being clear enough. I'm not speaking literally, or perhaps I'm speaking atemporally. The tribe probably has 10s of thousands of warriors, but I doubt they have enough Shamans and spare champions to not be tore apart in the years following this.

With the cup stored here, and the concentration of power, this was likely where the leadership of the tribe was. 2 Mages couldn't kill the Empire, but 2 mages attacking a meeting of the Elector counts with the emperor in attendance could very well do enough damage(like kill everyone in attendance) that in the years to follow, what comes out the other end isnt the Empire.
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I have significant doubts. We don't have any frame of reference for what the central hub of a chaos-worshipping steppe tribe would look like, and I'm certainly not going to assume we just accidentally'd the Kul.
 
[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[x] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[x] The Waystone Project
[X] Ranaldian High Priest of Kislev
 
Absoloot said:
Ah, I think I'm not being clear enough. I'm not speaking literally, or perhaps I'm speaking atemporally. The tribe probably has 10s of thousands of warriors, but I doubt they have enough Shamans and spare champions to not be tore apart in the years following this.

With the cup stored here, and the concentration of power, this was likely where the leadership of the tribe was. 2 Mages couldn't kill the Empire, but 2 mages attacking a meeting of the Elector counts with the emperor in attendance could very well do enough damage(like kill everyone in attendance) that in the years to follow, what comes out the other end isnt the Empire.
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I agree that the attack is likely to have been a huge setback to the Kul, but for a different reason:
NuclearConsensus said:
Oh, I agree, numerically this isn't a bad loss for the Kul. Lookswise though? It's pretty bad. They lost to Champions of the southern gods, who they outnumbered, and while they had daemons and Champions of the Four on their side, and on top of that, they lost the Goblet. The other tribes are likely to be poking and prodding at the Kul in the future, looking for further weakness to snap onto, so the Kul will need to expend manpower fending them off or making attacks of their own to prove their strength. End result means Kurgan killing Kurgan, which is still a win in Kislevite books.

The real killer will be if their perceived loss of favor turns into actual loss of favor, meaning they'll have to do the above without the level of support from their gods which they're used to, plus real incentive for the other tribes to take chunks out of them. Of course, even then, the Kul are unlikely to be completely wiped given their current size, but they'd still be greatly weakened. Just as Ljiljana would like, perhaps.
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Mopman43 said:
I have significant doubts. We don't have any frame of reference for what the central hub of a chaos-worshipping steppe tribe would look like, and I'm certainly not going to assume we just accidentally'd the Kul.
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Yeah, you're probably right. I'm definetly making a lot of big assumptions. I'd think tribes like this would have horrific attrition rates for magic users, so Shamans would be rare, but for all I know embracing mutation and chaos makes things significantly easier to learn and they have a ton of Shamans.


It could also be that the cup was being hidden by a faction in the tribe with decent power, but not the central leadership.
 
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Strategic fun time I guess.

[x] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[x] The Waystone Project
[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
 
Absoloot said:
Yeah, you're probably right. I'm definetly making a lot of big assumptions. I'd think tribes like this would have horrific attrition rates for magic users, so Shamans would rare, but for all I know embracing mutation and chaos makes things significantly easier to learn and they have a ton of Shamans.


It could also be that the cup was being hidden by a faction in the tribe with decent power, but not the central leadership.
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If nothing else, I certainly think living in the Wastes and worshiping chaos would result in a population having a higher portion born with the ability to wield magic.
 
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