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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Retrueno said:
According to Heidi the current EC aren't that exceptional, like the Grand Duke Feuerbach of Talabecland is the primary contender for just being the Grand Duke Feuerbach of Talabecland , not for being an exceptional EC.

And I really think Mandred would be better than him considering some of the things happening in Talabencland (like some of their merchants trading with Vampires, or what he did when Abel was EC about not touching the northern trade border thing).
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He could be better, certainly. But he could equally be no better, or worse. He's too young for us to tell.
 
BoneyM said:
Dragomas will be fighting for his fourth consecutive term, so maybe not.



There'll be a social for spectating, and gossiping about it would probably come with it.
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Would you be able to tell us how fast Dragomas is able to transform into a dragon, or would we have to watch/fight to find out?

Because if Dragomas has to spend some time casting battle magic to transform, I imagine the counter would be speed and dispelling, whereas if Dragomas is able to transform nigh-instantly and at will (which seems more likely), that would imply to me that it is possible for other wizards to develop the ability to instantly and at will cast battle magic too. Which I guess would then be the sort of calibre you need to be at to compete for Grand Patriarch/beat a dragon.

Like, if Mathilde got good enough at Pendulum or Pit of Shades to cast instantly and at will I could see her beating Dragomas, and practically speaking those look like feats of the same skill level to me, so makes sense.
 
FallenPears said:
Would you be able to tell us how fast Dragomas is able to transform into a dragon, or would we have to watch/fight to find out?

Because if Dragomas has to spend some time casting battle magic to transform, I imagine the counter would be speed and dispelling, whereas if Dragomas is able to transform nigh-instantly and at will (which seems more likely), that would imply to me that it is possible for other wizards to develop the ability to instantly and at will cast battle magic too. Which I guess would then be the sort of calibre you need to be at to compete for Grand Patriarch/beat a dragon.

Like, if Mathilde got good enough at Pendulum or Pit of Shades to cast instantly and at will I could see her beating Dragomas, and practically speaking those look like feats of the same skill level to me, so makes sense.
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Spectate and find out.
 
FallenPears said:
Would you be able to tell us how fast Dragomas is able to transform into a dragon, or would we have to watch/fight to find out?

Because if Dragomas has to spend some time casting battle magic to transform, I imagine the counter would be speed and dispelling, whereas if Dragomas is able to transform nigh-instantly and at will (which seems more likely), that would imply to me that it is possible for other wizards to develop the ability to instantly and at will cast battle magic too. Which I guess would then be the sort of calibre you need to be at to compete for Grand Patriarch/beat a dragon.

Like, if Mathilde got good enough at Pendulum or Pit of Shades to cast instantly and at will I could see her beating Dragomas, and practically speaking those look like feats of the same skill level to me, so makes sense.
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Battle magic is normally (emphasis on normally) no slower than normal magic, assuming I remember BoneyM's comments on the topic. It just require a lot more magic.
 
[x] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[x] Border Princess of the Howling River
[x] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland

Changing my vote, after thinking on it I'd rather not do the Waystone stuff, Cause it just is rather boring to read imo.
 
NSMS said:
I hope Heidi will keep Mandred relatively grounded too, and I certainly expect her to try, but sometimes that sort of thing's simply not possible. In fact, sometimes efforts to shape a child's outlook and personality can have exactly the opposite of the intended effect simply due to sheer rebelliousness (it's a cliche for a reason).
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Valmond said:
Yes, and that reason is that most writers are unoriginal and lazy. :V
Heidi is not going to teach her child through lecturing or trying to force him into doing things, she's way smarter than that.
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With a side of man-bites-dog selective reporting, I'd say. And personality is to some extent inherited, which can look like either 'taught' or 'rebelled' depending on what the parents are trying.
 
[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[X] Nagarythe
[X] Ambassador-at-Large to the Karaz Ankor

One realistic vote, two more that don't matter. I may go back in and add waystone if the votes shift.
 
picklepikkl said:
...was it under a Van Hal, though? I thought the Haupt-Anderssons were still kicking in canon.

Look, I'm not saying I'm against it, I'm just saying that if we do it, go the whole nine yards and call it the Scholomance.
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/OmegaHugger
And then make it into a school of necromancy. And raise Abelhelm from the dead.
/unOmegaHugger
 
Resonant said:
Mathilde would be going out to solve all this infighting, not participate in it. It may feature inane political squabbling and maneuvering but that's because it's a work-in-progress untangling the accumulated inertia. If you wanted to reduce this sort of behavior, becoming Mandred's Tutor is a direct solution/cure VS. hoping other Lord Magisters pick up the slack.
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There is in fact, no evidence for this.
Heidi's words on the subject was that we'd be doing favours for the RIGHT people and having discussions with the RIGHT people.

And this while explicitly unbound by Grey Order rules.

The implication being that we'd NEED to be outside of the Grey Order rules to do what she wants, and that we wouldn't do favours for the wrong people.
And she'd be the one to decide what counts as right and wrong people.
 
BoneyM said:
[ ] Research Sabbatical
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Mathilde: "On this, my fourth year of the project, I have finally tracked down the elusive Sabbatical. Initial contact does not look promising, as the moment I set eyes upon it it vanished. If this continues I may have to turn my efforts towards hunting the legendary Gazebo instead."
 
[X] The Waystone Project
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Nagarythe


The only things I am interested in.
 
Slightly updating my vote:

[x] Border Princess of the Howling River
[X] Spymaster of Wissenland
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred

Edit: Adding Waystone back in.
[x] The Waystone Project
 
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[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Border Princess of the Howling River
[X] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
 
NSMS said:
The succession is only likely to be a problem if Leopold dies in the relatively near future, and honestly? In that situation, I'd take one of the Elector Counts (someone proven, with experience) over someone who could grow up to be practically anything.
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No, if Luitpold dies early it would result in a clusterfuck free-for-all since no candidate has a winning majority and a tepid compromise would win in the end. The winner in such cases is not someone proven/experienced but a "mild, unassuming, politically shackled" Emperor. Mandred having growth potential is an advantage, in that situation.

[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[ ] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
 
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