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RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR (Warhammer Fantasy Golden Age Dwarf Runelord Quest)

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soulcake said:
and then I landed on another Gor to cushion my fall," Gimli explained
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I dunno if you get to count that one.
soulcake said:
Your best guess was that something was being stretched by the Rune
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I said it during the spoilers and I'll say it again.


BungieONI said:
No its that Banner runes become building runes, not Talisman runes.
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Which is weird. Functionality wise I can understand that but surely Building Runes ought to be from the Engineering category.
BelligerentGnu said:
Tinbeard? Tinbeard? What self-respecting dwarf takes that name? It's got to be colour-related, it's the only thing that makes sense.
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Miners who are famous for Tin and proud of their beards.
Alratan said:
Remember it only fixes cosmetic damage at this point. We'd probably need a more refined version to deal with meaningful damage.
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Cosmetic damage before it develops into major stuff. Heres the quote

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soulcake said:
minor cosmetic damage, things like hairline cracks and fractures that could cascade into worse damage over time
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It sounds like theres a distinction where damage has grown into something that affects the function of the item and thats the point it stops working.
As long as the acid damage doesn't outpace the repair, or acid is removed to give the rune time to work before it exceeds that threshold it should still work.
ArchAIngel said:
Huh. I wonder if the Rune of Repair on a lump of Adamant would let us slowly make more Adamant outside a Smelter? Just shave cosmetic bits off steadily.
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I was thinking of this on the Gromril for the chain maker.
Hard to actually shave Adamant and hard to do anything with the shavings.
Rockeye said:
I want to somehow finagle an infinite ammo bolt quiver with the rune of stacking and some variant of the rune of repair/forging... Hmm...
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Seems like a lot of research, Rune of repair probably repairs from the Rune so either you'd be shooting bolts after breaking off the rune , but that sounds like major cosmetic damage.
 
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soulcake said:
tructures you could, at best, link to the Rune of Cleaving, but in a very roundabout and obtuse sense. From what you could gather these similarities encompassed division of all things, which confused you greatly.
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A roundabout, obtuse way ... like in reverse? Reverse Cleaving. Uncleaving. Turning two halves of an object back into the whole version.
 
I am kinda surprised that Otrek is dying "so early".

As in, with this still being Golden Age of Dwarfs, and Otrek being of a prominent lineage and a proven and renowned individual, I expected him to reach at least one millenium.

I mean, there are a lot of dwarfs, with no legendary deeds to their name, who easily exceed even that number.

So, what's the deal? Is the crown that hard to bear? Or does he feel his legacy secured with Gloin and Gimli around? @soulcake
 
LordEdric said:
For rune of repair, maybe a trial to see those who can repair a certain number of tools, weapons, or armors in a certain amount of time while maintaining good quality. Let them understand just how much the rune helps
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... What about the deathmaze of traps Snorri has?

Make them do maintenance and repair work on Snorri's, or Kraka Drakk's or Kraka Grom's in general's, defenses.

It's extra good because it introduces them to Snorri's penchant for deathtraps, too!
 
Horium said:
So, what's the deal? Is the crown that hard to bear? Or does he feel his legacy secured with Gloin and Gimli around?
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Both, I think.

Bearing the Crown during the great incursion is much more of a burden than normal Kinging

As a case for the second: Snorri's mother probably had been waiting on a concrete sign of Snorri recovering from the loss of his wife. She got it with Karstah, signed out. Yep, I'm done.
Otrek seeing Gimli learning to substitute Martial for Diplomacy put his mind at ease that the Kingdom's future was in safe hands. (The Zornish immigrants being tied to the hold with ties of Gold and Blood probably helped too)
 
Horium said:
I am kinda surprised that Otrek is dying "so early".

As in, with this still being Golden Age of Dwarfs, and Otrek being of a prominent lineage and a proven and renowned individual, I expected him to reach at least one millenium.

I mean, there are a lot of dwarfs, with no legendary deeds to their name, who easily exceed even that number.

So, what's the deal? Is the crown that hard to bear? Or does he feel his legacy secured with Gloin and Gimli around? @soulcake
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Dwarfs die when they feel that their proverbial job is done. Otrek has done a lot. He established a hold, led it into multiple wars, defended it, got the attention of Grimnir and navigated the hell that is dwarf hold politics.

Basically: he established and constructed the groundwork upon which his descendants can build on and improve. He doesn't want to cling to power and keep his son from taking responsibility, but instead abdicate with honor and in the knowledge, that everything he started will be continued by the following generations of rulers.

It's the same pride that let's Masters share their knowledge to apprentices. The certainty, that you have build a legacy and the only thing preventing it from growing is you yourself.
 
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[X] Plan Theme of Preparation

Pretty proud of our little beardlings, Nain showing off to Hammerspite and Karstah getting her first big commission. It's also good to see the new runes will do good without us needing to put in more time but the option is there for us to develop them further.
 
people with his runes we have almost everything for Santa Claus, the sleigh reinforced by rune the Santa Claus bag with this new rune and the deer made gronti. only one rune is missing to walk on the air or on the ground to add to the gronti.
 
So it seems Rudil might be becoming a Novice Initiate of the Defence-In-Depth Common Sense. He needs to work on making sure his paranoia is sufficiently high though. Can't defend fully unless you are always looking out for when they will come for you. And Gimli is definitely living up to his namesake.
 
pokemaniaque said:
people with his runes we have almost everything for Santa Claus, the sleigh reinforced by rune the Santa Claus bag with this new rune and the deer made gronti. only one rune is missing to walk on the air or on the ground to add to the gronti.
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We still need a method of Information Gathering.

Runed Spectacles is my current wishlist for Snorri's next personal equipment, though as it stands, it looks to only be worth it after multiple research trees progress a lot further.
 
Acolyte said:
It probably took a lot of valaya research to make it like that I am sure.
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Idk, seems counterintuitive. Turning something so complex as nuclear fission to produce raw material into something simple enough that Journeymen can reproduce would require several digging through several layers before Snorri can get to the substance of the gift.
It would also emphasise the gap between Ancestors and Him.
1. Make something incredibly complex
2. Simplify it to runelord levels
3. Simplify it to master runesmith level
4. Simplify it further to journeyman levels
5. Give it to a runelord to play with

The runelord than takes the thing, and unravels the complexity, having their mind blown at how much they still have to go.
I don't think it meshes with Valaya's teaching method. Styling on beardlings until they give up (see Alric Thungnisson and the Rune of Eternity)

No, what I think is going on is Valaya pushing Snorri to better himself.

These are not new runes, just particularly twisty applications of odd combinations of runes.
Something that plays to one of Snorri's strengths (Odd and Esoteric runes) that will make him think hard, and consider things he otherwise wouldn't have. Like a Koan, something that looks simple, but provokes a lot of avenues for deep thought. She took Cleaving, wrote it as gniCvael, combined it with Healing and gave it to Snorri.
The Lesson is not the Rune itself, it's the thought process that went into turning Cleaving into gniCvael.

Snorri has already demonstrated this kind of twisty thinking with the Rune of Annealing: it's an extremely specialized rune, bordering on the useless. Until he uses it to make Gromril chain.
 
IronFist said:
Idk, seems counterintuitive. Turning something so complex as nuclear fission to produce raw material into something simple enough that Journeymen can reproduce would require several digging through several layers before Snorri can get to the substance of the gift.
It would also emphasise the gap between Ancestors and Him.
1. Make something incredibly complex
2. Simplify it to runelord levels
3. Simplify it to master runesmith level
4. Simplify it further to journeyman levels
5. Give it to a runelord to play with

The runelord than takes the thing, and unravels the complexity, having their mind blown at how much they still have to go.
I don't think it meshes with Valaya's teaching method. Styling on beardlings until they give up (see Alric Thungnisson and the Rune of Eternity)

No, what I think is going on is Valaya pushing Snorri to better himself.

These are not new runes, just particularly twisty applications of odd combinations of runes.
Something that plays to one of Snorri's strengths (Odd and Esoteric runes) that will make him think hard, and consider things he otherwise wouldn't have. Like a Koan, something that looks simple, but provokes a lot of avenues for deep thought. She took Cleaving, wrote it as gniCvael, combined it with Healing and gave it to Snorri.
The Lesson is not the Rune itself, it's the thought process that went into turning Cleaving into gniCvael.

Snorri has already demonstrated this kind of twisty thinking with the Rune of Annealing: it's an extremely specialized rune, bordering on the useless. Until he uses it to make Gromril chain.
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fission as in splitting things, not nuclear fission I assume.
Otherwise it'd be pretty obvious because the repairs would be made out of a different material to the rest of the item as Iron splits into two Aluminium isotopes to maintain the proton count.
 
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