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The monetary question is a good one. How much liquid cash do we have on us, or can we borrow from the Expedition to be repaid afterwards?

I'm assuming that the Shadowsteed will allow us to carry a substantial amount of it.

Otherwise, we might have to resort to theft...

And wear entirely different clothes, and not carry our normal gun or our staff?

It just seems like lots of risk for no significant reward.

And wear an illusion that changes the appearance of all of them.
 
And wear entirely different clothes, and not carry our normal gun or our staff?

It just seems like lots of risk for no significant reward.

The Chaos Dwarves don't care about Mathilde. All they'd want is to subject her to temptation to spend her money and therefore be able to take their cut.

The monetary question is a good one. How much liquid cash do we have on us, or can we borrow from the Expedition to be repaid afterwards?

I'm assuming that the Shadowsteed will allow us to carry a substantial amount of it.

Otherwise, we might have to resort to theft...

Mathilde will have the economic logistics handled if the thread wants to spend money.
 
Quick question
There 2 options for visiting places and our trip is supposed to be a two way trip. Any chance we could visit the other on our way back?
 
I don't think anyone proposes to use this trip to Chaos-Vegas to do something that will make the Chaos Dwarfes our eternal hated enemy.

Magister Grey had to sabotage their biggest Daemon-Forge or something like that to earn her constant assassins.
 
If we do visit the Chaos Dwarves, it might be a good oppurtunity to expand our library, pick up some chaos dwarf texts on engineering, history, magic, romance, warfare, etc. I'd imagine that the CD have some unique, if horrible, insights in regards to those topics you cant find with the dawi.
 
Quick question
There 2 options for visiting places and our trip is supposed to be a two way trip. Any chance we could visit the other on our way back?
depends on if we have one of the kurgan tribes after us, say for stealing the Za-goblet or not.

Or something we have no clue about yet.

Worst case Chaos suddenly waxes and we are the front lines on The Great War Against Chaos: Second Edition.
 
I wonder if Thorgrimm is going to send out the Okral once again. On the one hand, Karak Vlag could probably use the help with rebuilding their outer defences, on the other hand there are Vlags paranoia and the fact that the Okral were attacked on the Skull River.
 
Yikes, I vote to do literally anything except spend up to a few chapters witnessing vast suffering and slavery and evil with the Chaos Dwarves. It contributes exactly nothing to our current goals, it would be a painful thing for Mathilde to experience, and wow I just really don't want to read about that. If we're getting into conflict, then sure, pop your head in to do some recon in a place they can't touch you without incredible consequences, but not now.

EDIT: Also, please don't literally give money to the Chaos Dwarves by buying shit there.
 
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The Chaos Dwarves don't care about Mathilde. All they'd want is to subject her to temptation to spend her money and therefore be able to take their cut.
With the event dice being what they are, however, this might not be the case by the end of her visit. I wouldn't be surprised if it ended with Mathilde running away with a wagonload of loot, personal enmity of a half a dozen greater daemons and somehow making a good impression on Chaos Dwarves after setting half of their city on fire.
 
I don't really want to buy food from the Chaos Dwarf markets. Even if it won't be being bought directly from the Chaos Dwarfs necessarily... No. I don't want to subject the Dwarfs of this Expedition to having dealt with Chaos Dwarfs, in a not-immediately-hostile sense. Not even by proxy, either; since I imagine in some hypothetical "buying food from them", they'd probably send the humans to bargain. Because that still counts. ... Also, I don't want the Chaos Dwarfs to be tempted to strike out at some Western Dwarfs, out of opportunistic spite.

Now granted, whether Mathilde checks the place out herself, that's another thing. I'm not sure it'd be great or not. Perhaps just scouting it, or sneaking around rather than peacefully entering. But hey, again, maybe some people will be really curious.

... I'm not sure why/how "Visit the combes" is an option too though. Is that meant to be in a non-hostile fashion, or in a surreptitious fashion, or what? Is this a scouting action, or a scouting-with-potential-for-diplomacy action?
[ ] Thane Borek Forkbeard
[ ] Head Engineer Gotrek Gurnisson
[ ] Head Ranger Snorri Farstrider
[ ] Preceptor Joerg von Zavstra
[ ] Sir Ruprecht Wulfhart the Younger
We discovered Vlag, and shed the first Daemon blood, alongside Snorri. We had a few grumbled conversations with him, on the approach to Vlag before this and now into Vlag. I want to hear more from him. Also, he was the one very interested in reclaiming Vlag in the meeting, glancing to see if Mathilde can do anything, and showed forlorn-ness and regret at how reality did not match up to imagination -- and I just want to talk to him more.

Also, Snorri is the head of the Rangers. He's the person in charge of scouting expeditions. (Well, the cavalry are too, but Snorri is, in a different way.) We could stand to build a closer working relationship with him, so that he becomes more aware of what Mathilde can do and can help out with, and vice versa.

Gotrek, we haven't talked to yet. He's also another leader of the expedition; of the Engineers and gunnery crews, in this case. Furthermore, if we ever have to use the Rite of Way to help transport the Steam-Wagons... it would be of help to know more about the Steam-Wagons and the Engineer's expectations of said Steam-Wagons, and so on. Knowing more about what terrains the Steam-Wagons have trouble with, knowing how we can best help... And maybe also knowing what will be easier.

Borek... I am very very very interested in getting a look inside his head on what he thinks about what just happened.

The Expedition just stopped and went out of its way, and lost 50+ people. The expedition uncovered the fate of a lost Karak. The expedition returned that Karak to the real world. It has, by some measures, literally just rescued/reclaimed a Karak that was thought to be eternally lost!

Borek... is probably feeling things. Worry and triumph and gratitude and hope and many other things.

And, as the person in charge of the Expedition, and the person who is in command and intending on reaching Dum... I want to hear what he thinks about what just happened, how he feels about the... the everything of Karak Vlag... and how he feels about his Expedition's chances to reach Karag Dum.

Ruprecht and Joerg are two more of the leaders of the expedition's council. They're important people. They're in charge of cavalry. And they scout, or at least one type of cavalry scouts -- and since Mathilde has her Shadowsteed, and her newly invented battle-magic, and various Grey Magic spells, and her talents -- I want to get to know them and get used to working alongside them.

(Which might mean taking one or two of the options below, of course.)

[ ] Ranging far ahead of the convoy
- With the Knights of Taal's Fury
[ ] Scouting near the convoy
- With the Winter Wolves


Also, talking to Ruprecht and Joerge will give us insight into how the Knights of Taal's Fury and the Winter Wolves are doing after the battle. About how the battle went for them. Did they do okay? Did they embarrass themselves? Are they shaken? Are they resolved to make up for it? Etc.
 
Absolutely 100% interested in visiting the Uzkulak, witness and see what they are and know what needs to be thrown down in the future, I'd also like to buy or steal a bunch of books from them, whether on magic or otherwise. Also want to visit the Combes. Might be an opportunity to steal another bag load of skaven books.

Knowledge is power and we have opportunities to potentially get more information about our enemies.
 
I am surprised that no one has mentioned the dawi portion of the expedition's reaction to buying stuff from there. I was under the impression that that was very much not kosher.

Would they really not care if we got stuff from there?
 
[X] Head Engineer Gotrek Gurnisson
[X] Journeyman Cyrston von Danling
[X] Visit Uzkulak, the Chaos Dwarf equivalent to Barak Varr
[X] Citharus, Barbitus, and Timpania
[X] Visit the combes that Qrech told you about
 
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Thinking about it, what I'd really like to do is case the joint now and then come back in a few years having invented a bag of holding and flipped the Coin to the Night Prowler, and rob the place blind.

I am surprised that no one has mentioned the dawi portion of the expedition's reaction to buying stuff from there. I was under the impression that that was very much not kosher.

Would they really not care if we got stuff from there?

Would we tell them? We can potentially gather lots of useful information even if we don't purchase a thing, so have a strong reason to visit anyway.
 
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[X] Sir Ruprecht Wulfhart the Younger
[X] Asarnil the Dragonlord
[X] Citharus, Barbitus, and Timpania
[X] Visit Uzkulak, the Chaos Dwarf equivalent to Barak Varr
[X] Visit the combes that Qrech told you about
 
... I'm not sure why/how "Visit the combes" is an option too though. Is that meant to be in a non-hostile fashion, or in a surreptitious fashion, or what? Is this a scouting action, or a scouting-with-potential-for-diplomacy action?

Mathilde has heard a lot of stories about them, and they're right there. So she could check them out and see if any opportunities knock while she's poking around.

I am surprised that no one has mentioned the dawi portion of the expedition's reaction to buying stuff from there. I was under the impression that that was very much not kosher.

Would they really not care if we got stuff from there?

If they need to know, and there's plenty of scenarios where they don't, Mathilde has enough Dwarf rep to spin it. Same as buying cattle from Kurgan.
 
[X] Visit Uzkulak, the Chaos Dwarf equivalent to Barak Varr
[X] Visit the combes that Qrech told you about
[X] Head Engineer Gotrek Gurnisson
[X] Ice Crone Ljiljana
[X] Journeyman Cyrston von Danling
 
[X] Magister Egrimm van Horstmann

I want to build a friendship with Egrimm. He's a cool dude and it's been a while since the last time Mathilde made a close friend.
 
[X] Visit Uzkulak, the Chaos Dwarf equivalent to Barak Varr
[X] Visit the combes that Qrech told you about
[X] Asarnil the Dragonlord
[X] Deathfang
[X] Magister Egrimm van Horstmann
 
Weird how little respect the runesmiths (runepokers) are getting. Maybe the dynamics of those surviving dwarves are especially skewed somehow.

Could be that "proper" runesmiths were already dead, and the ones remaining had to basically teach themselves from the ground up.
Remember to call them by their new official title




No idea why they made that change, but we have to respect it.
Possible situation where they not only did that, but instituted a law requiring that everyone capable of learning runes do so?
Resulting in a glut of low-skill runesmiths who might only barely know a handful of runes?

Under constant assault by Daemons is one of those situations that creates radical changes to how production and military organization works, so it's possible that they just went in for absolutely maximizing the number of copies of the limited range of runes they can make/whatever their runeworkers can do with countermagic.
This, has the potential to piss off the runesmith's guild.

edit: also the thing about collecting shattered weapons implies that A) dawi weapons were shattered, and B) they still needed the metal from the weapons. This implies that they've gotten used to having trouble mining, and have gone into excessive recycling of metals in order to keep enough weapons, probably reducing metal quality, forcing them to use stone for tools where in other situations they might use metal, and forcing them to fight to collect any real metal they can.
 
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