Even if the whole population is back it'd be the smallest of the Old Holds.
The Dwarves prefer redundancy, Karak Azul has its own line instead of going through K8P. Karag Dum is chained in via Vlag because it's such a huge distance from KaK.
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Even if the whole population is back it'd be the smallest of the Old Holds.
The Dwarves prefer redundancy, Karak Azul has its own line instead of going through K8P. Karag Dum is chained in via Vlag because it's such a huge distance from KaK.
Couldn't we have told them that we blocked the waystone flow. So don't touch it unless they want to get yoinked back to unreality?
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It wasnt within range, it was when Belegar put all the Jewels into place and put it own as far as im aware. Then it alerted Thorgrim about it. Which I suppose is why its very important someone of the Karak's loyal lines needs to be the ruler...
Ah well thats good then, least we dont have to worry about the MESS that is Red-eye mountain.
That spell got broken hard enough to concuss three higher Daemons. Chaos would have to start from scratch to get it back.
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Also, is this where we start up the "wrong Karak, Mathilde" memes again? Because it seems like this should be the place.
The transportation spell got shattered when it came back.
So did we unblock the flow to get things back to normal?
Also yay! We just freed a mountain of dwarves! We're going to be rolling in dwarven favor when we get back.
Wonder what Asarnil is going to ask for?
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Whatever we end up doing, do not go to chaos dwarf town. We're the Loremaster of K8Ps. Decked out in a lot of rune stuff. Don't give them a chance to take a shot at us on their home turf. They hate the Order Dwarves right back and would love to enslave some uppity umgy loremaster. Not to mention that Waarghbane might do to shamans in town. Mat is personally known to the Grobi gods.
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I disagree. If you read the interlude, the recognition happens right when a transport from K8P arrives at Karak a Karak. Here's a quote timeline...
This implies that until the transport got in range (presumably holding King Belegar and the crown), the Throne of Power didn't recognize the change.
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Due to the Coin they know, right deep in their heart, that we saved them and did it for altruistic reasons.
Which has probably made them even more suspicious. Things that get beamed into your brain can't be trusted, and these specific dwarves have had a lot of experience recognising them.
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Word of God was that we can walk right in. Granted, he didn't say safely, but given it was in response to a question about whether we could sneak, I'm going to take it as encouragement.
Also, Ranald is probably feeling really proud right about now.
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That had me alternately grinning and chuckling, thanks Boney.
New title? New title! Master Night Water Crafter of Commodes Mathilde.
"I don't know, somehow the world just keeps showering me in coins and ingots and whatnot without me having to ask. I think I prefer the accolades and head pats."
Uzkulak has beings travelling across oceans and continents to trade there because the Chaos Dwarves have thousands of years of never compromising on keeping the trade flowing and enforcing the policy that all enmities end at the gates. No matter how much loot they could get from nabbing Mathilde, they'd lose more from trade deciding to go elsewhere. They'd absolutely kill or capture her in a heartbeat if they found her anywhere else, but not inside Uzkulak.
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Question ... do we have any reason to believe the crown isn't already in Vlag?
This isn't any other Lost Hold. No one was driven out by enemies. The hold, with it's whole population, was just thrown into another dimension.
Presumably, the ruler and the crown and all that stuff would still be there .... right?
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Is Uzkulak not a slave market, too? Won't seeing hundreds of slaves in bondage trigger some... ethical and religious obligations to act?
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If you follow canon, the King was outside of the hold when the shit went down, and he and his limited forces got killed by Daemons, so who knows.
Edit: Shit, my bad, it was the King's nephew, not the king.
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There's a lot we don't know about the Azrilbezaz and the Dwarven Waystone network, so whether or not Karak Vlag auto-connects to it is completely up in the air.
The reason the Azrilbezaz needed to reconnect to the network in KaK might have been because Karak Eight Peaks was properly evacuated, and the reigning King at the time shut down the Karak-Waystone in an attempt to deny their magic to any Grobi warlocks.
For all we know Vlag never shut down their Karak-Waystone and it always kept sending magic drawn from its surroundings south to KaK, it just never arrived there because the connection to the next Waystone transmitter was torn.
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Those obligations are not a suicide pact, and Mathilde averting her eyes from Uzkulak will not change the moral equation. It's a terrible place that Mathilde can do nothing about. There's a lot of those around the place.
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Probably, but they might actually have to travel to KaK to actually activate it. And this is assuming it doesn't just immediately restore the connection since I doubt it was ever turned off, just... disconnected.
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If grey wizards were forced to liberate slaves every time they saw them, they'd be pretty bad spies.
A bonus to his payment?
His DF gain isn't going to be anywhere near as high as Mathilde - she is the one who actually figured out how the Hold disappeared and then yanked the Hold back from the warp. Singlehandedly.
It should be noted that Karak Eight Peak might have been put on standby when King Lunn Ironhammer had most of the surviving Dawi retreat in an orderly manner and sealed large parts of the Hold thus requiring a reset and realignment with the Throne.
Karak Vlag just got yeeted into the Warp some two centuries ago; their connection could just pop back.
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Presumably Thorgrim would have broached the possibility some time during the one hundred and eighty years of never not hearing the klaxon of impending doom. If Kragg could fix it, it would already be fixed.