Now that would be a good minion. Assuming we can eliminate the madness and make sure whatever soul inhabits the body is sufficiently loyal, but the Green Dream is full of souls that love us.
Undead stabilization is our lead into that. We could also likely make them metal-clad, to make them more PR friendly. Gold-clad, maybe?
 
So they'd fit in with the Inquisition? :V

Would that make them... Bloodravens?
Obviously. They can be the template for our BTO Outsiders later on.
And Qyburn can play around with the bones, too, since the Old Gods are kind enough to leave those behind.

What undead template works best on a Jabberwock? 🤔
Gold-clad Dread Mummy for the Jabberwock and use Dread Sayona for the Vilderavn.
 
Did we ever get our revenge on those wisps in the Braavos swamps?
Huh.
So it's this far that draconic salt can persist.

*scribbles down a note*

But to answer the question: yes and no.
We went in, found that they've been bound as lantern-lights to the Hag they were trying to run away from back then, and decided that they aren't worth further investment of either IC attention, or OOC screen-time anymore.
 
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Huh.
So it's this far that draconic salt can persist.

*scribbles down a note*

But to answer the question: yes and no.
We went in, found that they've been bound as lantern-lights to the Hag they were trying to run away from back then, and decided that they aren't worth further investment of either IC attention, or OOC screen-time anymore.
Oh yeah, I think I remember reading that a while back. Still think we should take some time to find the Hag and see if we can buy it off her once we get some downtime. Gotta cross those Grudges off after all.

Might be a good "bear ass" kinda quest for some of our wards?
 
Aren't Hags evil creatures that often eat children or something? Or is that limited to The Witcher and Skyrim?

Because I'm not entirely sure the Hag in question is a law-abiding citizen of ours.
 
Adhoc vote count started by egoo on Dec 13, 2020 at 10:49 PM, finished with 111 posts and 12 votes.

  • [X] The twisted dragon caught in a web, tangled by the cawing ravens conspiring to poison and twist its work even further.
    -[X] "Either a thinly veiled metaphor for Aegon's work in general and House Targaryen, the Conspiracy of the Citadel, a reflection of the same in recent times and my own rise, or..." trail off, seeing the uselessness of the question.
    -[X] Yes, there's more to what the Citadel had planned than all of that, it couldn't have all been madness and ruin, just as Aegon's ambition wasn't likely all self-aggrandizing ego. Your ambition certainly isn't purely fueled off your own ego, either. Yes, you use the raven's likeness as well in your Inquisition, which could lead to tangled conspiracy that might some day poison your own work, but only if you are ever truly blind and degenerate enough to let it. They did get one thing wrong about all of this, however.
    -[X] "What an unflattering image, in either case. I take it this is a lesson that the Golden Court wanted to impart before revealing itself?" You are not a Jabberwock.
    -[X] "Perhaps you should keep watching, you might be surprised what the future holds. It never seems to go the way you expect it to, now does it?" You are a Dragon.
 
So..?

Jabberwocky and the Raven-things: Forged into Soulforged Undead Constructs with swanky templates.
?Sacrificed to Old Gods for the purpose of expediting the process..?

CoS Book!Fey: Given Tor-treatment and Yss'ed into a singular Outsider-minion once the book-forms are read through and transcribed by Lya.

Red Orb!Dragon: Used up to power transforming (some of) Timmie's corpse into a set of five Soulforged Undead Wyrmskulls.
Requires Lya getting next MR.

Squid!Dragon and Mind Worm (still in Larder): Still getting used up to research Psionics.

Did I get that all right?
 
Jabberwocky and the Raven-things: Forged into Soulforged Undead Constructs with swanky templates.
?Sacrificed to Old Gods for the purpose of expediting the process..?
Not constructs. They would have souls and sentience, as both Dread Mummy and Dread Sayona require such.
Though we don't strictly need to use the original souls for that.

Come to think of, we could maybe use our Legion Devils for that? Their current forms are weak and this would be just a regular old promotion to them.
CoS Book!Fey: Given Tor-treatment and Yss'ed into a singular Outsider-minion once the book-forms are read through and transcribed by Lya.
Not a fan of this.
Red Orb!Dragon: Used up to power transforming (some of) Timmie's corpse into a set of five Soulforged Undead Wyrmskulls.
Requires Lya getting next MR.
Since nobody seems to have alternatives or objections, might as well.
Squid!Dragon and Mind Worm (still in Larder): Still getting used up to research Psionics.
Aye.
 
My sole objection to using the Orb is there's a 3/9 chance of the Ancient+ Red Chromatic dragon inside of it escaping, and that's with suped up hyper-death-kill-snake eating it.

If it escapes, a CR 23 encounter is definitely... not fun times. Though I suppose we could pay Yss with its HD to have their avatar present for the fight. He offered before, and that wouldn't make me comfortable with it, but considering DP said the Valyrians were unlikely to want to use a wyrm or great wyrm for the creation of the artifact, so long as it doesn't have PC levels stacked on top of its base chassis, we could probably take it without issue.

If it is a more powerful dragon, with 9th level spells, it will likely escape.

There's also a chance for Tiamat interference which could take it from "yeah we can handle it" to "not this fucking shit again" and boss fight even more difficult than the one we had in Yi Ti.

Which is saying something. That thing was like MR 5.
 
My sole objection to using the Orb is there's a 3/9 chance of the Ancient+ Red Chromatic dragon inside of it escaping, and that's with suped up hyper-death-kill-snake eating it.

If it escapes, a CR 23 encounter is definitely... not fun times. Though I suppose we could pay Yss with its HD to have their avatar present for the fight. He offered before, and that wouldn't make me comfortable with it, but considering DP said the Valyrians were unlikely to want to use a wyrm or great wyrm for the creation of the artifact, so long as it doesn't have PC levels stacked on top of its base chassis, we could probably take it without issue.

If it is a more powerful dragon, with 9th level spells, it will likely escape.

There's also a chance for Tiamat interference which could take it from "yeah we can handle it" to "not this fucking shit again" and boss fight even more difficult than the one we had in Yi Ti.

Which is saying something. That thing was like MR 5.
Well. Sooner or later we will have to risk it.

Or keep sitting on the one artifact that could harm us like some dumb villain.
 
Speaking of the Dracolich...that Hex Dragon is still around and probably something Qyburn would love to "discuss" his craft with.
One day we'll bookify that dragon.
Well. Sooner or later we will have to risk it.

Or keep sitting on the one artifact that could harm us like some dumb villain.
We have plenty of ways to hedge our bets. Yss ain't the only god who can help us out here. R'hllor could be a bro and finagle some "imprison impure fire" thing against the dragon so it can't escape.
 
Alternatives?
Book-containment leaves some to be desired.
Tor-treatment is just the fastest variant that eont have us lose any random knowledge Lya wont transcribe for some reason.
I'm open to other uses so long as we don't just leave an enemy up for potentiall free'ment.

The whatshisname that isn't Dusk Dancer seems rather scheme-y and cunny to plan something even in case he's booked.

Am paranoid about the sort.
Come to think of, we could maybe use our Legion Devils for that? Their current forms are weak and this would be just a regular old promotion to them
Sold.
Would be the one of, if not the, first on-screen showing of theirs (and off-screen, I suspect), and for once would imbue them with some/any relevance.
Also they have good attitude about things. We need more no-shit-attitude Minions.


Red Orb needs dealing with, eventually.
We don't use it, and it's a hella cliche weakness for us to hold in our cloak.
The inhabitant is a dickwad, too.


Shit, again with this stuff under reply-box.
NO I DON'T CARE FOR ALL OF THE VOTE-OPTIONS, SHUT IT, SYSTEM!
 
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Alternatives?
Book-containment leaves some to be desired.
Tor-treatment is just the fastest variant that eont have us lose any random knowledge Lya wont transcribe for some reason.
I'm open to other uses so long as we don't just leave an enemy up for potentiall free'ment.

The whatshisname that isn't Dusk Dancer seems rather scheme-y and funny to plan something even in case he's booked.

Am paranoid about the sort.
The thing that people keep forgetting about the whole Tor thing is that we had a low-level Asura devour his soul to gain his knowledge and some of his abilities. Which, I would like to add, was not a perfect process and we had Yss focus mostly on making sure the information we deemed useful would be preserved.

Booking them is the best we got in so far as containment with full information access are concerned.

I mean, I'm pretty sure once we got the Imperial Pseudo-Deity running we can just straight up unravel peoples souls to rip every shred of information out of them that you could possibly gain, but we are not there yet.
Sold.
Would be the one of, if not the, first on-screen showing of theirs (and off-screen, I suspect), and for once would imbue them with some/any relevance.
Also they have good attitude about things. We need more no-shit-attitude Minions.
It's also a neat recruitment argument if it works out. One of the few things we can't do so far is promoting Devils in our service, which is definitely an argument against defection for those who are at the bottom of the totem pole.
 
The thing that people keep forgetting about the whole Tor thing is that we had a low-level Asura devour his soul to gain his knowledge and some of his abilities. Which, I would like to add, was not a perfect process and we had Yss focus mostly on making sure the information we deemed useful would be preserved.
And then we also did the same to the flesh-smiths from Gogossos with no Azura involved nor any lore lost.
It is debatable if Urak's stable, but knowledge is all there, and the precedent's there too to making Outsiders with 'full' knowledge of the original by sacrificing more stuff on top.

I will not keep pushing for this if you're against it, but I'm still rather interested in getting rid of these high-CR Fey asap, just to be safe.
 
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