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Can there be a option to explain that the Waystone of Dum appears to still stand. That we think the reason the chaos Wastes over took Karak Dum is what happened to Karak Vlag cutting it off from the network. So what is required to save Dum is repairing the waystone network in either Vlag or maybe Karak Ungor was it?

cause I could see that actually turning the expedition around.
 
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You know, random thought, but when the Hold came back temporarily, Thorgrim probably got a very brief period of power coming in from it. That's be a beautiful omake to see. Also, I forgot:


[Temptation: Piety, 89+26+10(Avatar)=125.]
And this is why we're Ranald's favorite. God damn, that was basically the equivalent of 36 Piety on top of a massive roll. Fuck Chaos, we've got Ranald riding our shoulder.
 
He goes substantially faster than Mathilde's Shadowsteed, which is 250 miles/day. He can probably be back in Zhufbar within a day, then in Altdorf a day or two later. Then another two or three days back to us with whoever he could scrounge up? I can't remember if K8P to Altdorf is one day of flying or two. Either way, if finding the waystone we're going to clog takes a few days, we'll probably a shitload of reinforcements coming in basically right as we want to kick things off, which is perfect.

His maximum speed is very high, but his sustained speed is about equal to that of the Winter Wolves, because he cannot chain-cast Wings of Heaven all day.
 
[X] Waystone Clog

So if we go a waystone up the line and crank it shut, that should probably turn the ritual off. Karak Vlag falls back into reality, and the Daemons probably regain Instability, at which point their days are numbered (though while they're here they're still very scary). I think that that's all pretty solid, assuming our theorywork is correct.

What I'm not sure is what happens after that. @BoneyM, assuming we don't explode, what would Mathilde anticipate everybody doing after we take this course of action? I think I remember you saying that the dwarves wouldn't just shrug and keep travelling if we said we had an idea for how to retake a hold, but would they be scouting to see when the daemonettes all Instability themselves out, or what?
 
...We could send Deathfang back, I guess?

Borek will veto anything that has Asarnil and Deathfang that far away from the Expedition for that long, and he's kind of got a point. They're the heaviest hitter and this is hostile territory.

What I'm not sure is what happens after that. @BoneyM, assuming we don't explode, what would Mathilde anticipate everybody doing after we take this course of action? You said the dwarves wouldn't just shrug and keep travelling if we said we had an idea for how to retake a hold, but would they be scouting to see when the daemonettes all Instability themselves out, or what?

Hold the line until demons stop coming out, then check for survivors.
 
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I don't believe we're going to be months, weeks at the most unless things go really really wrong.
The expedition is supposed to last six weeks. We're like, a week through that. A month and a bit until the Expedition makes it back, and that assumes it does make it back, and passes through the High Pass, and has a wizard with enough skill to unclog a waystone.
 
[X]No

I have little doubt that reinforcements are currently flooding into the hold now that they know we know. By the time the spell breaks there may well be an army ready to unblock the waystones. We should hold off on this until we have an army too.

Coincidentally, we are going on a trip to hopefully collect a large number of Dawi who will have very raw feelings on the losing and reclaiming of holds. These two problems can become a solution together.
 
Borek will veto anything that has them that far away from the Expedition for that long, and he's kind of got a point. They're the heaviest hitter and this is hostile territory.
That's what I figured, yeah.

I think that we're definitely going to Do Something About This. Having the Chorus directly assault the fortifications isn't going to work, though it might be something to fall back on. I'd leave the chorus occupied and out of the fight while the demons attack us, and the fortifications will probably be hardened against direct assaults. The question then is basically a choice between clogging and interrupting the Waystone. Of those two, clogging the Waystone is probably the better option. The interruption is duration-concentration, so Cyrston may not be able to keep it up long enough to starve the demons out, and Chaos would almost certainly have an easier time disrupting Cyrston's casting than they would unclogging a Waystone. So the clog gives our enemies a much tougher problem to deal with.

[x] Waystone Clog
 
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