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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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egoo said:
Imperial Steel Dragons.
Huh.
This makes far more sense than anything else, now that I think about it.

We already made precedent with making Dragon breeds that don't bow to Tiamat by default, but we had yet to make a Dragon Breed that would be defined as "Imperial" all the way.
Harbringer is the closest thing, but more like a prototype in the metaphysical sense.
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I am in favor of just about anything for her which gives her agency again, but personally I would like her to be powerful right off the bat and capable of growth.

I'm sure she could grow in any of the three options, it's just a question of starting power.
 
Azel said:
There's so much warforging going on, I'd rather do something more special with Dark Sister.

Also, since you ignored the dead useful Cacodaemom research, we have a shortage of useful souls for outsiderifying.
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That was one thing I really wanted to get... I'm hoping we can make a fake identity and reach out to the Xerfilstyx within a few months to purchase that lore.
 
egoo said:
Imperial Steel Dragons.
Huh.
This makes far more sense than anything else, now that I think about it.

We already made precedent with making Dragon breeds that don't bow to Tiamat by default, but we had yet to make a Dragon Breed that would be defined as "Imperial" all the way.
Harbringer is the closest thing, but more like a prototype in the metaphysical sense.
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I'd be down for making her an Imperial Steel Dragon, as in a genuine Imperial Dragon first of her kind, rather than a fancier Herald (though those are amazing too!). A warforged seems to standard for Dark Sister considering we're turning most of Sarnor into them.
 
Rather than reforging Dark Sister or somehow extracting her soul, why don't we leave her as a sword, BUT build her a few special sheathes.

Those sheathes would just so happen to be powerful Construct bodies she can control like she was a Gundam pilot. One could be based on the Heralds, another could be an aquatic variant, like a Sea Cat, and another could be an everyday walking around kind of "sheath", similar to a Warforge. If we equip her with a Ring of Arming, she could instantly switch between her normal chassis and a combat frame. All in Imperial Steel, of course.
 
Goldfish said:
Rather than reforging Dark Sister or somehow extracting her soul, why don't we leave her as a sword, BUT build her a few special sheathes.

Those sheathes would just so happen to be powerful Construct bodies she can control like she was a Gundam pilot. One could be based on the Heralds, another could be an aquatic variant, like a Sea Cat, and another could be an everyday walking around kind of "sheath", similar to a Warforge. If we equip her with a Ring of Arming, she could instantly switch between her normal chassis and a combat frame. All in Imperial Steel, of course.
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Naw, that's a bit too slapdash for my tastes. Items are can be destroyed too easily, I want her to be complete.
 
Y'all cool with Viserys' actions in this version of my plan? We could also go with the Horrid Wilting + Demon Summoning option if you prefer.
Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Aug 20, 2020 at 2:32 PM, finished with 82 posts and 7 votes.
  • [X] Moving right along...
    -[X] Viserys casts a Maximized Searing Agonizing Firebrand spell targeting all of the Devils he can see as a Swift Action, then moves to join Richard and the Seeker in melee combat against any remaining enemies.
    -[X] Dany casts a Reached Chained Sacramental Seal spell, targeting as many Devils as possible, but placing priority on the Judgement Devils.
    -[X] Teana places a Brilliant Barrier between herself and the Erinyes targeting her, then casts Shadow Healing on herself. If she is healed by Benerro before she can heal herself, she instead targets a surviving enemy with Amber Sarcophagus.
    -[X] Garin targets the Judgement Devils and remaining Erinyes with another Quickened Darkbolt spell, then does the same with a Maximized Darkbolt spell, either hitting those which he missed, who resisted the first salvo, or who he simply could not target, then using any left over bolts for other Devils.
    -[X] Benerro moves to cast a Heal spell on Teana.
    -[X] Richard and the Seeker proceed to murder any enemies in their paths.
    -[X] Mereth focuses on bringing down her fellow Erinyes, using all five of her ranged attacks, then activating her Belt of Battle to make five more attacks if any remain living. She prioritizes those which are most heavily injured or failed to succumb to Viserys, Dany, and Garin's attempts to Stun, Petrify, bind, or Daze them.
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Crake said:
Naw, that's a bit too slapdash for my tastes. Items are can be destroyed too easily, I want her to be complete.
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Just mentioned it as a possibility, especially if she wishes to remain a sword but would like to have more ability to interact with her surroundings.

Items aren't necessarily easy to destroy, especially if they happen to be Golems.
 
Three CR 20 Outsiders. Dark Sister. Blackfyre. The Harbinger.

Each one has a humanoid form and a 3-headed dragon form.

Together they are known as The Emperors Will.

Discuss.
 
Goldfish said:
Y'all cool with Viserys' actions in this version of my plan? We could also go with the Horrid Wilting + Demon Summoning option if you prefer.
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You should dial it back a bit. Azel is right, killing them all right away is not in our best interests. We want to lure out as many of them as possible, and slamming a firebrand on everything here isn't the way to do that because the devils will just hide if they know they're up against us specifically.
Azel said:
Three CR 20 Outsiders. Dark Sister. Blackfyre. The Harbinger.

Each one has a humanoid form and a 3-headed dragon form.

Together they are known as The Emperors Will.

Discuss.
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Jesus Christ, Azel. I want it. I want it so bad.
 
Azel said:
Three CR 20 Outsiders. Dark Sister. Blackfyre. The Harbinger.

Each one has a humanoid form and a 3-headed dragon form.

Together they are known as The Emperors Will.

Discuss.
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I'm tentatively supportive, can we get them spellcasting or martial abilities, as suits their purpose? I was thinking Gish-supported spell casting for Dark Sister, Martial Disciplines for Blackfyre and full-casting for The Harbinger.
 
Crake said:
I'm tentatively supportive, can we get them spellcasting or martial abilities, as suits their purpose? I was thinking Gish-supported spell casting for Dark Sister, Martial Disciplines for Blackfyre and full-casting for The Harbinger.
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Sounds good. I was thinking themes anyway. Blackfyre with black flames, Dark Sister with blood red and the Harbinger with white.
 
Duesal said:
You should dial it back a bit. Azel is right, killing them all right away is not in our best interests. We want to lure out as many of them as possible, and slamming a firebrand on everything here isn't the way to do that because the devils will just hide if they know they're up against us specifically.

Jesus Christ, Azel. I want it. I want it so bad.
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Okay, new edit incoming. Gimme a minute.
 
@Azel If you're going full themes, Dark Sister's humanoid form should be female, Blackfyre should be male and the Harbinger should be androgynous. :V
 
Updated plan, now with Demon Summoner Viserys.

[X] Moving right along...
-[X] Viserys sacrifices a 9th level spell slots to Summon a Nalfeshnee as a Standard Action, then casts Time Stop as a Swift Action. While Time Stopped, he uses an 8th level slot to Summon a Hezrou and another 8th level slot to Summon 1d3 Vrocks. He will also cast Freezing Glance. He Summons all of the Demons as near to enemy Devils as possible.
--[X] Once Time Stop ends, Viserys will target one of the Judgement Devils with Freezing Glance as a Free Action, direct his Summoned Demons to attack where he judges they will be most useful, then moves to join Richard and the Seeker in melee.
-[X] Dany casts a Reached Chained Sacramental Seal spell, targeting as many Devils as possible, but placing priority on the Judgement Devils.
-[X] Teana places a Brilliant Barrier between herself and the Erinyes targeting her, then casts Shadow Healing on herself. If she is healed by Benerro before she can heal herself, she instead targets a surviving enemy with Amber Sarcophagus.
-[X] Garin targets the Judgement Devils and remaining Erinyes with another Quickened Darkbolt spell, then does the same with a Maximized Darkbolt spell, either hitting those which he missed, who resisted the first salvo, or who he simply could not target, then using any left over bolts for other Devils.
-[X] Benerro moves to cast a Heal spell on Teana.
-[X] Richard and the Seeker proceed to murder any enemies in their paths.
-[X] Mereth focuses on bringing down her fellow Erinyes, using all five of her ranged attacks, then activating her Belt of Battle to make five more attacks if any remain living. She prioritizes those which are most heavily injured or failed to succumb to Viserys, Dany, and Garin's attempts to Stun, Petrify, bind, or Daze them.

[X] Richard's Level Up
-[X] Class: +1 Paragon Knight
-[X] Feats: Cut from the Air, Smash from the Air
--[X] Retrain: Pierce Magical Protection >>> Richard's Gambit
-[X] Maneuvers:
--[X] Retrain: Greater Insightful Strike >>> Diamond Nightmare Blade
-[X] Skills (5 points): +1 Concentration, +4 Spellcraft
 
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Now the only unforeseen consequence of this is people suspecting The Trio of being our secret half-siblings when we offer no precise explanation as to their origins, just that "they showed up one day ready to execute my will". :V
 
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