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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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BungieONI said:
Proceed to look at our Domain and what it does, it's a controller cultivators domain and it has a particular focus on negating damage and boosting defenses.
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Mist mostly debuffs perception, summons phantoms and makes moving around harder; and mist is our domain.

There are some damage negation, but they are minor and not a focus of it.
 
So. If anyone is interested in what the math on the defensive potential is:
For allies with C rank health Mist is better. It is significantly better for allies with D rank health or lower.
For allies with B rank health Mirror is better. It is significantly better for allies with A rank health or higher.


Mist is on for everyone for a short duration. Can only saving throw once per scene. Will always have everyone survive at 1 hp. They might die immediately after if situation doesn't change.

Mirror is great if we can intercept an attack by jumping into it, will be great multiple times a fight, and can assist in the focusing-down of any scary enemy targets.


Mirror scales extremely well for us at higher power levels.

Mist scales extremely well at higher numbers of people affected.


I'm more interested in Mirror in fights, but Mist in narrative. Making sure everyone has the chance to be saved is unique. I think Su Ling would approve, even if we won't always be able to stop them from dying immediately afterwards.

Mirror makes sure that we can avenge any attack, and it is really freaking good at support higher level combatants. So long as we tank the hit too, we not only drop the rank of the attack by up to 3 (outside of the fog, breaks through Black Mirror, hits Mirror) we immediately sear the opponent in a way that leaves them very vulnerable.

Do we want to Mass Commander, and make sure the smallfolk always have a chance to go home? Or focus on Peer Combat and winning engagements that may include losses. Lose Slower or Win Faster.
 
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Well this was an interesting point to catch up. No idea about what to vote for though so i'm going to let other people figure that out. Thank you for writing this @yrsillar. Its really good
 
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JowKeen said:
They might die immediately after if situation doesn't change.
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While true, keep in mind that unless it's another nuke, the flat damage reduction should give them a bit of time in many cases.
JowKeen said:
Mirror scales extremely well for us at higher power levels.
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I've been assuming the "C" will eventually upgrade and make the scaling similar. (And/or possibly the duration.)

But yeah. Mist is better for weaker allies, mirror is better for stronger or nonexistent ones.
 
JowKeen said:
Mirror is great if we can intercept an attack by jumping into it, will be great multiple times a fight, and can assist in the focusing-down of any scary enemy targets.
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Hmm, that feels too much like a call-back to Ling Qi tanking that Shishigui knife on her clavicle, and the detrimental effect it had on Zhengui and the formation of her heart demon. Not sure how much I like EUM now.
 
yrsillar said:
Unruffled Stygian Reflection: C
Duration: Short
Becoming as the surface of the water, the user absorbs the effects of a damaging technique or attack that is C rank or lower(this includes techniques that hit multiple times). If the technique is an area of effect, the user absorbs the technique's effects within Close range, protecting allies nearby.
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We already have resistance against C rank damage.
yrsillar said:
Black Mirror: A
Duration: Immediate
The lake's surface is imperturbable, and naught may change that Darkness, perfect and unbroken ripples out from the user, consuming all nearby for a single instant. In response to an enemy technique that would include them as a target, the user may activate this technique. On activation, the triggering technique is nullified(If A rank or less) or reduced by one rank in effect(if S or higher), in addition, any other hostile effects of lower rank which would target the user or allies within Close range on the same turn are reduced by one rank in effect.
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We already have a technique that no-sells A rank techs, so EUM is mostly going to be used after Black Mirror for reducing B+n rank damage from S+n rank effects (where n is ranks above S).

Against B rank both options are similar and we also has West Wind Step to personally dodge B rank techs.
 
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Mellithae said:
While true, keep in mind that unless it's another nuke, the flat damage reduction should give them a bit of time in many cases.

I've been assuming the "C" will eventually upgrade and make the scaling similar. (And/or possibly the duration.)

But yeah. Mist is better for weaker allies, mirror is better for stronger or nonexistent ones.
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One thing that's worth noting, our spirits tend to lag us by at least a stage and are generally individually weaker than Ling Qi, so the Mist is actually pretty solid for just Ling Qi + Spirits which is about as low a count of allies you get with Ling Qi. Between the two they both do that, though I like Mist more for the themes I've already outlined, and the mechanical reasons I also raised.

It also ensures Zhengui can actually use his Rebirth Inferno with a much larger margin of possible incoming damage, which while bad since I don't want to see him use it means that he's better off if he has to I think.
 
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I love the truth is blinding aspect of EUM. Because Ling Qi's story is fundamentally one worded in miscommunication, of truths misunderstood. I love an acknowledgement that the truth can mislead and disorient because that's a reflection of Ling Qi's personal experiences. That it juxtaposes with Renxiang's themes is just gravy.

On the other hand- I think people tend to forget Ling Qi doesn't care about people in the abstract. She cares for various individual people, but abstract groups don't move her. The bandits moved her because she saw them as various individuals terrified of her as they died. The thought of poverty moves her because she has first hand experiences not only of how hard it was, but what it reduced her to when it comes to other people. The thought that the world does on net become kinder moves her because a spirit she respected treated the homeless left to survive the winds and winter as an improvement.

On some level, Ling Qi can be pretty callous. I don't particularly mind that, and I think the notion that Ling Qi should strive to save everyone, or ought to be traumatized if she doesn't seems misplaced. We've indirectly led to the deaths of people we knew, some who trusted us, some who tried to do a good deed to us. We have regrets, and we don't want to be the person we were on the streets, but we've survived and moved on. We don't owe it to anyone to choose TYIM, and I really don't want a sense of moral obligation to be a motivation for choosing it.
 
BungieONI said:
One thing that's worth noting, our spirits tend to lag us by at least a stage and are generally individually weaker than Ling Qi, so the Mist is actually pretty solid for just Ling Qi + Spirits which is about as low a count of allies you get with Ling Qi. Between the two they both do that, though I like Mist more for the themes I've already outlined, and the mechanical reasons I also raised.

It also ensures Zhengui can actually use his Rebirth Inferno with a much larger margin of possible incoming damage, which while bad since I don't want to see him use it means that he's better off if he has to I think.
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Well.
no.
Zhengui is already above C rank health, and Hanyi might have C rank she also has some ability to boost that above norm with her drain. They are also unlikely to stay that low of health.
and Zhengui's Rebirth Inferno would be better blocked by Mirror . . . if LQ was able to be targeted by it lmao


Jensaarai said:
Hmm, that feels too much like a call-back to Ling Qi tanking that Shishigui knife on her clavicle, and the detrimental effect it had on Zhengui and the formation of her heart demon. Not sure how much I like EUM now.
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No. The knife to the clavicle was tanking a single target shot for someone else because we didn't trust them. Mirror gives us the opportunity to help absorb/protect an AoE attack and reprisal against them in a way that will never leave us helpless like that.

Mist could, theoretically, leave everyone helpless like that. But I think neither is a good comparison
 
Regardless of which we choose, I wanna respond to the people who think the Shishigui is gonna book it with the Bardbarian in tow. While our team was containing and holding him back, the G7 hasn't really been struggling against us. I bet he has a decent amount of qi left. He's a G7 after all.
Also idk why people are so sure he would choose to the save Bardbarian rather than the Startstone. The Starstone is his peoples bargaining chip, its insanely valuable and useful to other cultivators if not the Shishigui and we don't know how many they have or how hard it is to find/retrieve the Starstone. Also I can't imagine that he's willing to let it fall into the Empire's hands.
I don't see him being hard pressed to choose the Bardbarian or the Starstone anyway. It may not be easy but he could probably save both. He has an art or ability to move the stone, we've seen it. He can just grab Bardbarian and carry him while using the art if need be.
 
[X] Thousand Year Impenetrable Mist: B

I would rather like to save fan girl who's friends with mouse girl, they've been compared to be similar to what Xulian and Li Suyin could've been:cry:
 
[X] Enlightenment's Unbreaking Mirror: B

I really like both arts, but I have been swayed towards this one.
 
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