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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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egoo said:
@Goldfish, is it really a good idea to cast this many spells in an environment where we are about to have several boss-battles soon?
Wild Arcana isn't a thing to spend frivolously on a battlefield where one can't sleep it off :/
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I'll reduce Viserys' use of Wild Arcana by a few times in the second round, just in case. Vee is the only one who will be seriously depleted, and I'm leaving her 8th level slots and plenty of low level slots in reserve.
 
DragonParadox said:
OOC: I thought about Wyverns trying to bomb the swarms, but that just did not feel precise enough to try with no training. The pilots decided they would be more likely to kill their own allies. Dragon fire on the other hand tends to be a bit more precise. Not yet edited.
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What kind of HD, do we get out of the remain of the swarm to feed to the fungus forge? normally a rat swarm wouldn't be sufficiently magical to work as fodder for the forge, but them being undead, should mean they're valid fodder.
 
Goldfish said:
So, my plan involves 18 Mass Heal spells, 16 of them at 22nd level and 2 at 21st level, 504 Remove Disease spells from Malarys, and 28 + 7d3 + 7d4 (average of 580-ish) from Vee's Summons.

How many of the 3500 infected soldiers will that heal, @DragonParadox?
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Well each mass mass heal is a 30 ft sphere of 'no illness', logically you would be squeezing people in there to get healed and by that I don't mean standard squeezing rules where people stand upright but stacked on top of each other like sardines, call it x4 what the area could hold comfortably.

So that's 2826 (area of circle)/1,25 (how much space each person would take up) = 2826.8 people/casting so the mass heals alone could solve your illness problem.

I have to say I did not expect that, but that's how the numbers come out. Realistically that means you can spare them the squeeze given the amount of over-heal you guys have.
 
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DragonParadox said:
Well each mass mass heal is a 30 ft sphere of 'no illness', logically you would be squeezing people in there to get healed and by that I don't mean standard squeezing rules where people stand upright but stacked on top of each other like sardines, call it x4 what the area could hold comfortably.

So that's 2826 (area of circle)/1,25 (how much space each person would take up) = 2826.8 people/casting so the mass heals alone could solve your illness problem.

I have to say I did not expect that, but that's how the numbers come out. Realistically that means you can spare them the squeeze given the amount of over-heal you guys have.
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Awesome. That simplifies things greatly.

Updating my plan now.
 
Goldfish said:
Awesome. That simplifies things greatly.

Updating my plan now.
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Oh no wait, 30 ft is the diameter of the circle not the radius. That would mean each mass heal is actually 706.5 ft which is 565.2 people per casting, still enough but not as comfortably. you are going to have to squeeze people.

Artemis1992 said:
I'm not sure if you are starting with the right numbers, but 2826/1,25 is most definitly not 2826,8.

Should be 2260?
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Should be yes. Math is not my strong suite, that was a transcription error from the other tab though.
 
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Artemis1992 said:
@Goldfish
If we lay down to sleep afterwards, we could use Ancestral Awakening for a Sudden Widen and double the area of effect for one casting?
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I didn't think Widen worked on spells that didn't have a properly defined AoE? The feat specifies "burst, emanation, line, or spread shaped", but I wouldn't mind if we could use it. @DragonParadox?
 
Viserys: "Gerold, good news--"

Gerold: "Your Grace, the army's basically dead in the water. We can't move with all these sick walking wounded."

Viserys: "--see I was just about to--"

Gerold: "We'll have men vomiting out their own rations or shitting themselves to death for weeks--"

Viserys: "We healed everyone."

Gerold: "You're shitting me."

Viserys: "Well no, no one is shitting anything more than usual."
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Jul 21, 2020 at 12:53 PM, finished with 72 posts and 7 votes.
  • [X] Halt the advance while injuries are treated and anti-swarm tactics are implemented.
    -[X] Dany will prepare five Chained Celestial Brilliance spells to cast using her Faith's Reach ability. Using her Bead of Karma to increase her caster level to 19th, this will allow Dany to affect 90 objects (including the various Legion banners and standards) with Celestial Brilliance, which will then be distributed throughout our forces. Each will remain effective for 19 days.
    -[X] While Dany prepares her spells, Viserys and Malarys will use Mass Heal spells to cure the infected soldiers. Viserys will use Ancestral Awakening to learn Sudden Widen in order to cast his first Mass Heal to affect a 30 foot radius rather than a 15 foot radius, effectively quadrupling the number of soldiers cured.
    --[X] 5,000 doses of Antiplague(5,997 doses currently stocked) will be distributed among our forces for use should further biological attacks be made against them.
    -[X] You will press on against Gornath, again not letting up on divination and trying to prevent Sarnath from placing you in a pincer between one host and another. If it seems like they will try to meet you in the field only after linking up, just bomb Gornath's less well-defended host when they are out in the open and before they can be aided by their allies, while you move to prepare a position to fight from via Titan's Tools, obviating the advantage of chariots with earth works and breaks in terrain, leveling out where your men will be fighting.
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Artemis1992 said:
Doubling the area means quadrupling the targets I think?
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Archibald said:
Nope, it doubles the area, not the radius.
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No, Artemis is correct. As per the year's description, the radius is doubled.

Widen Spell – Feat – D&D Tools

Complete list of all D&D spells, rulebooks, feats, classes and more!
dndtools.org

Assuming a normal radius of 15 feet being doubled to 30 feet, the area affected goes from 707 square feet to 2,828 square feet. Doubling the radius quadrupled the area covered.

EDIT: And I got the edit in seconds before DP closed the vote. 🤠
 
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So, we need a way to deal with swarms of enemies. How about alchemists fire flame throwers? In a squad we can have one solder be a specialist flamethrower user, that way swarms would be hit and anilated a heck of a lot easier. That or we could give all of our Legionaries Fire bombs to throw on horde attacks.
 
Speed53066 said:
So, we need a way to deal with swarms of enemies. How about alchemists fire flame throwers? In a squad we can have one solder be a specialist flamethrower user, that way swarms would be hit and anilated a heck of a lot easier. That or we could give all of our Legionaries Fire bombs to throw on horde attacks.
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I'm gonna need TWO bolters.
 
Speed53066 said:
So, we need a way to deal with swarms of enemies. How about alchemists fire flame throwers? In a squad we can have one solder be a specialist flamethrower user, that way swarms would be hit and anilated a heck of a lot easier. That or we could give all of our Legionaries Fire bombs to throw on horde attacks.
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We need to figure out how to get Wildfyre into these flamethrowers for when the Long Night shows up in earnest.

Maybe it could be wielded by Imperial Steel Warforged once we develop those. 🤔
 
Goldfish said:
No, Artemis is correct. As per the year's description, the radius is doubled.

Widen Spell – Feat – D&D Tools

Complete list of all D&D spells, rulebooks, feats, classes and more!
dndtools.org

Assuming a normal radius of 15 feet being doubled to 30 feet, the area affected goes from 707 square feet to 2,828 square feet. Doubling the radius quadrupled the area covered.

EDIT: And I got the edit in seconds before DP closed the vote. 🤠
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Today I learned that the writers of D&D don't know what doubling an area means :facepalm:
 
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