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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Artemis1992 said:
@Goldfish
As I read it your Risen Road spell does not really change the landscape, only allow people in the affected area a straight march.
People outside the effect are explicitly back to normal conditions.

So all giants and mammoths have to be inside the aoe for this to work.
Can we get this done?
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It shouldn't be difficult. Each one is 10 feet wide and 240+ feet long. Between Viserys, Dany, and Lya all being able to Imbue several Giants with the spells, that will provide plenty of potential surface area.
 
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Goldfish said:
It shouldn't be difficult. Each one is 10 feet wide and 240+ feet long. Between Viserys, Dany, and Lya all being able to Imbue several Giants with the spells, that will provide plenty of potential surface area.
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Level antipaladin 4, druid/shaman 5, paladin 4, ranger 4

Of all our people only Lya has it on her spell list, and that's only because Lya as an Archivist cheats even harder than the other companions when it comes to spell lists.
Can you imbue people with spells you don't have or know?
 
Artemis1992 said:
Level antipaladin 4, druid/shaman 5, paladin 4, ranger 4

Of all our people only Lya has it on her spell list, and that's only because Lya as an Archivist cheats even harder than the other companions when it comes to spell lists.
Can you imbue people with spells you don't have or know?
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We've done it with Blood Wish for years now. And Dany can easily cast it with Ideas via Dreamcasting. Not only that, but she can also Reach + Chain it to affect 20+ Giants simultaneously without needing to Imbue it.
 
Goldfish said:
We've done it with Blood Wish for years now. And Dany can easily cast it with Ideas via Dreamcasting. Not only that, but she can also Reach + Chain it to affect 20+ Giants simultaneously without needing to Imbue it.
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I really don't see it.

We don't have the spell, none of us. So how can we imbue it?
I can see us faking the casting, but not more.

And Dany can only fake spells that she knows or that are at least available to her class, if you read the feature. That is not the case here.

Edit: Also it affects an area, not a person, so no chaining.
 
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Artemis1992 said:
I really don't see it.

We don't have the spell, none of us. So how can we imbue it?
I can see us faking the casting, but not more.

And Dany can only fake spells that she knows or that are at least available to her class, if you read the feature. That is not the case here.
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Dany can fake arcane spells (she once saved her like and Ser Richard's from a falling ceiling with a resilient sphere), it just takes more points as for imbuing spells you do not technically know I think you did that when you accidentally made the Mallory kid a beguiler.
 
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DragonParadox said:
Dany can fake arcane spells (she once saved her like and Ser Richard's from a falling ceeling with a resilient sphere), it just takes more points as for imbuing spells you do not technically know I think you did that when you accidentally made the Mallory kid a beguiler.
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Yes, but.
At 4th level, you gain the ability to spend 3 Ideas per level of a spell you know to spontanously cast it without having to spend a spell slot.
If you have a class that permits the daily preparation of spells, you can spend one less Idea then you would require to cast it spontanously per spell level during your spell preparation to prepare are spell that you know while ignoring the restrictions placed upon you by this other class. (Examples: Prepare spells with the Good descriptor as a Evil Cleric. Prepare spells without divine aid as Cleric. Prepare spells you know of but have not fully learned as a Wizard.)
At 6th level, you gain the ability to spend 4 Ideas per level of a spell, to cast a spell that you do not know but have knowledge of by passing a Concentration check DC 20 + 2x Spell Level. If this check fails, the spell fails and the invested Ideas are wasted. The spell must be of a level that you can cast and somehow available to your class (through domains, for example).
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Firstly this is a spell she has never seen properly performed, at most she will see Viserys hammer reality into shape to copy the effects, but not the spell as normal. So the idea that she knows it or has knowledge of it is relativly weak.
Secondly unlike most spells she used that way it's not in any Domain, which makes it not a case of "could technically be on a Cleric's list". (Sphere is in the Force Domain)
 
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Artemis1992 said:
I really don't see it.

We don't have the spell, none of us. So how can we imbue it?
I can see us faking the casting, but not more.

And Dany can only fake spells that she knows or that are at least available to her class, if you read the feature. That is not the case here.

Edit: Also it affects an area, not a person, so no chaining.
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Even if it can't be Chained, it can still be Imbued. We've done it using Blood Wish many times over the years.

Also, Viserys, Lya, and Dany are all able to use Wild Arcana/Inspired Spell, and Viserys can drop a lot of Miracles. That's a lot of Mythic Power and high level magic to throw around duplicating. DP has let us fudge some of the particulars of magic when narrative calls for it.
 
Artemis1992 said:
Yes, but.


Firstly this is a spell she has never seen properly performed, at most she will see Viserys hammer reality into shape to copy the effects, but not the spell as normal. So the idea that she knows it or has knowledge of it is relativly weak.
Secondly unlike most spells she used that way it's not in any Domain, which makes it not a case of "could technically be on a Cleric's list". (Sphere is in the Force Domain)
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Hmm... fair point. It is a druid spell though and you guys do have druids capable of 4th level spells though so it should be posibile to demonstrate it for her.
 
Goldfish said:
Also, Viserys, Lya, and Dany are all able to use Wild Arcana/Inspired Spell, and Viserys can drop a lot of Miracles. That's a lot of Mythic Power and high level magic to throw around duplicating. DP has let us fudge some of the particulars of magic when narrative calls for it.
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Okay.

Viserys can Bloodwish it and Lya can use Inspired Spell. I'm not 100% sure it's okay to imbue something Inspired, since Imbue is supposed to block as spellslot as long as it's active, but that's close enough to work.

Still, propably best to take a look how many of these spells have to be active to keep all the Large giants and Huge Mammoths inside, since that will go into the spellslots respectivly Mythic Power to make it work and we are on hostile territory.
 
[X] Goldfish
evertthing can be solved with a sufficient application of magic.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by egoo on May 8, 2020 at 6:17 PM, finished with 58 posts and 14 votes.
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[X] Use a combination of imbued Risen Road spells with one or more Lord's Banners of Swiftness to reduce the travel time of the Giants and their mammoths to Castle Black.
-[X] We will also borrow one of the Valyrian Steel PfE banners from a Legion to protect the migration while placing several Celestial Brilliance spells to blanket them, plus a Blinding Glory spell. We will also cast a Magic Army spell on the Giants each day so they will all be armed with +4 weapons during the migration.
 
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