That thing the other day about using dog casters to create shelters kind of stuck with me. This doesn't do that, mostly because the spell isn't workable, but I had an idea that had to be made reality .
So I present:

NG Small yellow lab

Init: +3

Senses: low light, scent

CR 5 1/3

DEFENSE:

AC: 15, Touch 14, Flat Footed 12 (+1 size, +3 dex, +1 natural)
HP: 10d8 + 20
Saves:
Fort: +4 Ref: +5 Will: +3

OFFENSE:

Speed: 40 ft.
Bite: +2 , 1d4 +1
Space: 5 ft
Reach: 5ft

STATISTICS:

Str: 13 Dex: 17 Con: 15
Int: 2 Wis: 16 Cha: 6

Skills:
Jump +7
Listen +5
Spot +5
Survival +1
Arcana +4
Craft(Carpentry): +5

Base Attack Bonus: +6/+1

Feats:

Craft Wand- After long thought and sudden inspiration, Harold has discovered how to stop his humans from throwing away the sticks he brings them.

Diligent - If dogs mark in scent, what do humans mark with?

Investigator - Even when his it can't lead him to them, Harold has always had a knack for sticking his nose into interesting things.

SPELLS KNOWN: (CL 8)

4th (1/day):
Summon Monster IV - All dogs go to heaven, but the best ones come back. Harold prefers to Summon Hound Archons when possible.

3rd (2/day):
Agonizing Rebuke
Archon's Aura
Meddle not in the affairs of dogs, for they are fuzzy and will bite your ass.

2nd (2/day):
Lesser Angelic Aspect
Boneshaker- Good Boys Bury all bones eventually

1st (2/day):
Hide From Undead
Positive Pulse - Feel that Good Boy Energy

0th (2/day):
Detect Magic
Guidance
/thread
That's it, we can end the quest now. We'll never surpass this. We've peaked, and it was entirely worth it.
 
That thing the other day about using dog casters to create shelters kind of stuck with me. This doesn't do that, mostly because the spell isn't workable, but I had an idea that had to be made reality .
So I present:

NG Small yellow lab

Init: +3

Senses: low light, scent

CR 5 1/3

DEFENSE:

AC: 15, Touch 14, Flat Footed 12 (+1 size, +3 dex, +1 natural)
HP: 10d8 + 20
Saves:
Fort: +4 Ref: +5 Will: +3

OFFENSE:

Speed: 40 ft.
Bite: +2 , 1d4 +1
Space: 5 ft
Reach: 5ft

STATISTICS:

Str: 13 Dex: 17 Con: 15
Int: 2 Wis: 16 Cha: 6

Skills:
Jump +7
Listen +5
Spot +5
Survival +1
Arcana +4
Craft(Carpentry): +5

Base Attack Bonus: +6/+1

Feats:

Craft Wand- After long thought and sudden inspiration, Harold has discovered how to stop his humans from throwing away the sticks he brings them.

Diligent - If dogs mark in scent, what do humans mark with?

Investigator - Even when his it can't lead him to them, Harold has always had a knack for sticking his nose into interesting things.

SPELLS KNOWN: (CL 8)

4th (1/day):
Summon Monster IV - All dogs go to heaven, but the best ones come back. Harold prefers to Summon Hound Archons when possible.

3rd (2/day):
Agonizing Rebuke
Archon's Aura
Meddle not in the affairs of dogs, for they are fuzzy and will bite your ass.

2nd (2/day):
Lesser Angelic Aspect
Boneshaker- Good Boys Bury all bones eventually

1st (2/day):
Hide From Undead
Positive Pulse - Feel that Good Boy Energy

0th (2/day):
Detect Magic
Guidance
He's a good boy! :)

Thanks, dude, this made me smile.
 
What a good boy!!

@Crake, can I suggest you rephrase your OpSec subsections?
We don't want to hide things from people. We're keeping things a little quiet because the Others feed on fear and tales of their deeds, and spreading this tale will strengthen the ones who fled. We should make it clear that generalities can be mentioned (thousands of Thenn saw, we can't keep this secret), but that they shouldn't describe any events or creatures fought. They went North, they fought spirits in frozen barrows, they triumphed despite the foes' dark sorceries.

Honestly, I think that it's not necessary and that we can let this be known. It happened far beyond the Wall, after all, in a place known to be dangerous. And we won! And the Wyverns and Moonchaser were effective in fighting off powerful monsters!
IMO the men spreading details of this op is a good thing for us, and I dislike the fact that it's being hidden. This was a win, and we ought to market it as such instead of trying to hide it. People will wonder about the dead pilots and destroyed vehicles, so IMO we may as well honor them publicly and all that.

But if you do want to ask people to keep quiet, the start of this post is a suggestion of a better way to frame things.

EDIT : And you should tell this to Moonsong too, and not just the pilots and crews.
How would you rephrase it?
 
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I used the start of @TalonofAnathrax's post for the operational security section.

The line about Moonsong's reward mentions eventually celebrating the success of our more mundane forces who participated in this battle by writing a Mirrorplay about events that took place there, and in the meantime publicly rewarding people with medals for heroically fighting some dark spirits.

Nothing more and nothing less. Everyone there will know how greatly they performed and that the King recognizes that service appropriately, and that's all that matters. And later on, their heroics will be known to millions.

They just have to be patient.
 
The line about Moonsong's reward mentions eventually celebrating the success of our more mundane forces who participated in this battle by writing a Mirrorplay about events that took place there, and in the meantime publicly rewarding people with medals for heroically fighting some dark spirits.

Nothing more and nothing less. Everyone there will know how greatly they performed and that the King recognizes that service appropriately, and that's all that matters. And later on, their heroics will be known to millions.

They just have to be patient.
That's good. But why do they have to be patient? Why can't we make a big deal of this right now?
We can very easily spin this as a big victory. We went up there to evacuate thousands of Thenn, and to destroy cursed barrows. Both objectives were achieved, and our troops won the battle against the dead. Even better, they won without Viserys there!

The more I think about it, the more I'm happy with making this public right now.

EDIT : @Crake, I just saw the rephrased OpSec vote. Could you maybe specify who we're telling this to? The PCs? The crews and pilots? The crowd of Thenn?
 
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That's good. But why do they have to be patient? Why can't we make a big deal of this right now?
We can very easily spin this as a big victory. We went up there to evacuate thousands of Thenn, and to destroy cursed barrows. Both objectives were achieved, and our troops won the battle against the dead. Even better, they won without Viserys there!

The more I think about it, the more I'm happy with making this public right now.

EDIT : @Crake, I just saw the rephrased OpSec vote. Could you maybe specify who we're telling this to? The PCs? The crews and pilots? The crowd of Thenn?
That "be patient" means more something like a time line of "wait until we conquer Westeros and have leashed its administrators to our will", not "wait several years before we finally reveal it all".

The real reason I want to keep it on the downlow right now is that it will inevitably spread to Westeros, and the problem with that is... we are a LOT more credible than we used to be among that crowd.

If Viserys shouts to the rafters that the Others are coming, people are going to go from extremely fucking twitchy, which they are now, to outright rebellion.

Viserys can rouse roughly 75% of Westeros to overthrow Tywin Lannister as of the end of this month, I think it stands to reason that we're at the point where we need to be careful of what we say since a lot of people are relying on us for leadership.
 
-[X] Yes, for the last time, this means we inform Moonsong, PCs, the crew of the ships and the Wyvern pilots, hell we even tell this to the Heralds.
I think this is about as final a word as we'll get, since I'm not really intending on changing the post anymore.

It's fine as it is, unless someone is outright suggesting a counter-vote. In which case, write it yourselves.
 
That "be patient" means more something like a time line of "wait until we conquer Westeros and have leashed its administrators to our will", not "wait several years before we finally reveal it all".

The real reason I want to keep it on the downlow right now is that it will inevitably spread to Westeros, and the problem with that is... we are a LOT more credible than we used to be among that crowd.

If Viserys shouts to the rafters that the Others are coming, people are going to go from extremely fucking twitchy, which they are now, to outright rebellion.

Viserys can rouse roughly 75% of Westeros to overthrow Tywin Lannister as of the end of this month, I think it stands to reason that we're at the point where we need to be careful of what we say since a lot of people are relying on us for leadership.
I had not thought of that. My first reaction was "no way!", but on second thoughts... Of course they'd be that annoying. They're Westerosi Lords, they basically exist to muck things up and start wars when they shouldn't.
 
Ok vote closed.
Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on May 3, 2020 at 2:15 PM, finished with 48 posts and 12 votes.

  • [X] "Fighting is unavoidable in this world. Dying is. So let it be that all who die are perceived as failures and chance all others stood before either injustice or horror never taking the risk themselves? You stood in defense of Thenn when I could not, when you have a child, a life together, and have already done enough to have stymied the works of the Enemy and also those who would put Westeros in jeopardy with their ignorance or duplicity. No one could blame you for putting up your bow and setting aside your spear to raise your daughter in peace, not with all the champions I have helped raise and rally to my banner to fight in your stead."
    -[X] "And yet I told you I would be heading into the threshold of Their power and rather than turn me away you came aboard for the sake of others and died in their defense. The Thenns I cannot reward for by the very act of spending resources and settling them comfortably in my own lands, they would have no more pride to hold onto if I did further."
    -[X] "My Companions I cannot reward for a fight they were not there for, and they would not accept it, for I had suggested to all our course of action, to focus on denying the enemy their prize."
    -[X] "Lastly, perhaps most pragmatically, I have to reward someone for this skirmish. You are right of course, a reward for Captain Moonsong and her crew, to give humble heroes for the realm to rally around, is definitely one of my intentions. Lady Melisandre too, I still owe much and plan on honoring her just as soon as I figure out a reward worthy of her service. And Yss' Champion, even bound by his oaths as they are to serve my cause, I would also favor with at least good will if not more material rewards."
    -[X] "Yet it stands to reason I have rewarded all of my vassals, clients and friends for the assistance they have provided me with, as is just, for their continued and loyal service... yet very little at all for either of you beyond the bare minimum necessary to allow you to forge lives of your own, which you turned toward stalwart defense of my people."
    -[X] "It sits ill to abuse the trust your former patron holds for me and spend your lives like cyvasse pieces on a board."
    -[X] "What reward for standing in the defense of Thenn would you bear to accept? Ask and it shall be granted."
    [X] Melisandre's reward: Offer to help arrange a grand blessing to Rh'llor's temple in Sorcerer's Deep.
    -[X] You will also equip her further so she shall be more effective against similar threats in the future.
    [X] Moonsong's reward: Hazard pay for her crew, medals to those of her crew who performed as exemplars in the defense of Thenn, and maybe a Mirrorplay in the future she helped write about the defense of the valley, with the Moonchaser as the star of the show. When you can reveal the truth about the Others and the march of Winter, that is.
    [X] Quietly ask Nirah if there is something he desires for his work driving off the Champion of Winter.
    [X] Arrange the same with Nettles.
    [X] Justification for this in narrative: Most of the people you are choosing to reward are those who have served you on a continued basis who you have done little to show favor toward. This is just reminding them not only of your generosity, but the world in general of what being in your service entails.
    [X] Operational Security: We don't want to hide things from people. We're keeping things a little quiet because the Others feed on fear and tales of their deeds, and spreading this tale will strengthen the ones who fled. We should make it clear that generalities can be mentioned (thousands of Thenn saw, we can't keep this secret), but that they shouldn't describe any events or creatures fought. They went North, they fought spirits in frozen barrows, they triumphed despite the foes' dark sorceries.
    -[X] Yes, for the last time, this means we inform Moonsong, PCs, the crew of the ships and the Wyvern pilots, hell we even tell this to the Heralds.
    [X] Moonsong Level Up
    -[X] Attribute: +1 Intelligence
    -[X] Feat: Expanded Arcana (Detect Ship, Heroism)
    -[X] Class: +2 Bard
    -[X] Skills (64 points): +2 Diplomacy, +2 Perform(Comedy), +2 Profession(Officer), +2 Sense Motive, +5 Knowledge (Geography), +5 Sleight of Hand, +6 Hide, +6 Listen, +7 Move Silently, +9 Escape Artist, +16 Spot
    --[X] Skill Tricks (-2 points): Social Recovery
    -[X] New Spells:
    --[X] 2nd Level: Heroism
    ---[X] Retrain: Charitable Impulse >>> Tactical Acumen
    --[X] 3rd Level: Alter Fortune, Detect Ship
    --[X] 4th Level: Fugue, Sirine's Grace
 
Small question, are there Mudflats anywhere in the Narrow Sea, or somewhere else known in ASOIAF (or this version)?

Particularly those hat are totally uncovered by ebb and submerged more than head-hight by flood, like the Wadden Sea by Germany?
 
Small question, are there Mudflats anywhere in the Narrow Sea, or somewhere else known in ASOIAF (or this version)?

Particularly those hat are totally uncovered by ebb and submerged more than head-hight by flood, like the Wadden Sea by Germany?
The Riverlands, which is known to contain a town/region referred to as "the Saltpans". It stands to reason the Riverlands would also have some mudflats.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on May 3, 2020 at 2:15 PM, finished with 48 posts and 12 votes.

  • [X] "Fighting is unavoidable in this world. Dying is. So let it be that all who die are perceived as failures and chance all others stood before either injustice or horror never taking the risk themselves? You stood in defense of Thenn when I could not, when you have a child, a life together, and have already done enough to have stymied the works of the Enemy and also those who would put Westeros in jeopardy with their ignorance or duplicity. No one could blame you for putting up your bow and setting aside your spear to raise your daughter in peace, not with all the champions I have helped raise and rally to my banner to fight in your stead."
    -[X] "And yet I told you I would be heading into the threshold of Their power and rather than turn me away you came aboard for the sake of others and died in their defense. The Thenns I cannot reward for by the very act of spending resources and settling them comfortably in my own lands, they would have no more pride to hold onto if I did further."
    -[X] "My Companions I cannot reward for a fight they were not there for, and they would not accept it, for I had suggested to all our course of action, to focus on denying the enemy their prize."
    -[X] "Lastly, perhaps most pragmatically, I have to reward someone for this skirmish. You are right of course, a reward for Captain Moonsong and her crew, to give humble heroes for the realm to rally around, is definitely one of my intentions. Lady Melisandre too, I still owe much and plan on honoring her just as soon as I figure out a reward worthy of her service. And Yss' Champion, even bound by his oaths as they are to serve my cause, I would also favor with at least good will if not more material rewards."
    -[X] "Yet it stands to reason I have rewarded all of my vassals, clients and friends for the assistance they have provided me with, as is just, for their continued and loyal service... yet very little at all for either of you beyond the bare minimum necessary to allow you to forge lives of your own, which you turned toward stalwart defense of my people."
    -[X] "It sits ill to abuse the trust your former patron holds for me and spend your lives like cyvasse pieces on a board."
    -[X] "What reward for standing in the defense of Thenn would you bear to accept? Ask and it shall be granted."
    [X] Melisandre's reward: Offer to help arrange a grand blessing to Rh'llor's temple in Sorcerer's Deep.
    -[X] You will also equip her further so she shall be more effective against similar threats in the future.
    [X] Moonsong's reward: Hazard pay for her crew, medals to those of her crew who performed as exemplars in the defense of Thenn, and maybe a Mirrorplay in the future she helped write about the defense of the valley, with the Moonchaser as the star of the show. When you can reveal the truth about the Others and the march of Winter, that is.
    [X] Quietly ask Nirah if there is something he desires for his work driving off the Champion of Winter.
    [X] Arrange the same with Nettles.
    [X] Justification for this in narrative: Most of the people you are choosing to reward are those who have served you on a continued basis who you have done little to show favor toward. This is just reminding them not only of your generosity, but the world in general of what being in your service entails.
    [X] Operational Security: We don't want to hide things from people. We're keeping things a little quiet because the Others feed on fear and tales of their deeds, and spreading this tale will strengthen the ones who fled. We should make it clear that generalities can be mentioned (thousands of Thenn saw, we can't keep this secret), but that they shouldn't describe any events or creatures fought. They went North, they fought spirits in frozen barrows, they triumphed despite the foes' dark sorceries.
    -[X] Yes, for the last time, this means we inform Moonsong, PCs, the crew of the ships and the Wyvern pilots, hell we even tell this to the Heralds.
    [X] Moonsong Level Up
    -[X] Attribute: +1 Intelligence
    -[X] Feat: Expanded Arcana (Detect Ship, Heroism)
    -[X] Class: +2 Bard
    -[X] Skills (64 points): +2 Diplomacy, +2 Perform(Comedy), +2 Profession(Officer), +2 Sense Motive, +5 Knowledge (Geography), +5 Sleight of Hand, +6 Hide, +6 Listen, +7 Move Silently, +9 Escape Artist, +16 Spot
    --[X] Skill Tricks (-2 points): Social Recovery
    -[X] New Spells:
    --[X] 2nd Level: Heroism
    ---[X] Retrain: Charitable Impulse >>> Tactical Acumen
    --[X] 3rd Level: Alter Fortune, Detect Ship
    --[X] 4th Level: Fugue, Sirine's Grace
 
Part MMMCDLXXVII: A Simple Price
A Simple Price

Seventh Day of the First Month 294 AC

A harsh light to see oneself in. Was it an echo of the horror they had both endured in death, you wonder, or something more mundane, seeing the sorrow of those who will never be reunited with kith and kin, knowing that others they had toasted and drank with were now enslaved utterly to the darkest of powers. "Fighting is unavoidable in this world, so is dying." you point out simply to the woman so very different from the Alyssa Grafton who was kidnapped by clansmen years ago yet still with her own brittle certainties. "Shall we then let it be that all who die are perceived as failures and all others who stood before either injustice or horror as having never taken the risk themselves?"

"Not a pretty thought to be rewarded that others might do better, like handing apples to the best goats in the herd," Danar scoffs with a trace of his old good cheer.

"A goat is a fitting enough beast to compare yourself to I'll grant," you answer with a smile of your own and a faintly exasperated snort. More seriously you add. "You stood in defense of Thenn when I could not, when you have a child, a life together, and have already done enough to have stymied the works of the Enemy and also those who would put Westeros in jeopardy with their ignorance or duplicity. No one could blame you for putting up your bow and setting aside your spear to raise your daughter in peace, not with all the champions I have rallied to my banner."

"Would we have peace? Would she?" Alyssa asks softly. "Not even you Your Grace could say that with surety. It's for our daughter's sake we fight. We'd give her the world, but to do that it has to still be here when she's all grown up."

"Are you sure you aren't the bard, love?" her husband asks lightly. "Those were some mighty fine kennings."

"I've been picking up bad habits I have, drinking in a wildling meadhall no less, my father would be beside himself if the knew," Alyssa replies in jest, then stops herself, gaze darkening with guilt and memories.

"I do not think the fallen would begrudge you the moment's levity," you point out before the silence can drag on uncomfortably. "Even fighting for your daughter as much or more than oaths, it was no small measure of courage you showed. I told you I would be heading into the threshold of Their power and rather than turn me away you came aboard to help guard the folk of that distant land and died in their defense."

"Not so distant from Skagos as my lovely wife reminds me when she isn't comparing me to a bear," the skald interjects, ending on a faintly challenging note, presumably because Alyssa né Grafton is not someone who one would ordinarily think would compare her husband to a bear.

"Don't you like Mormonts then?" she asks sweetly. "I thought it a fair enough comparsion all things told."

You shake your head at the byplay before continuing. "The Thenns I cannot reward for by the very act of spending resources and settling them comfortably in my own lands they would have no more pride to hold onto if I did further. My Companions I cannot reward for a fight most were not there for, and they would not accept it, for I had suggested to all our course of action, to focus on denying the enemy their prize."

"'Twas a fair enough choice to keep going through the barrows and old places instead of letting Them stake a claim when men were gone from the vale," Alyssa says after a moment. "Though I wish the First Men had more sense than to bury away all manner of treasures to molder in the dark."

Danar nods firmly. "You bury roots and carrots for winter, not treasures none but the dead know of."

"Well then, you will be glad to know I am not planning any barrows or tombs filled with treasure," you pick up the thread of conversation smoothly. "On the matter of practicality I have to reward someone for this skirmish. You are right of course, a reward for Captain Moonsong and her crew, to give humble heroes for the realm to rally around, is definitely one of my intentions. Lady Melisandre too, I still owe much and plan on honoring her just as soon as I figure out a reward worthy of her service. And Yss' Champion, even bound by his oaths as they are to serve my cause, I would also favor with at least goodwill if not more material rewards."

"Good that they are all getting their due, mayhap a song or poem will do well in the telling..." Alyssa glances at her husband.

"I don't think that will hang on me alone to tell. The good captain is many things, but not shy about beating her own drum," Dananr replies lightly, though you suspect composing a song of what happened in Thennhold might cut too deep too soon.

"It stands to reason then that I have rewarded all of my vassals, clients and friends, for the assistance they have provided me with, as is just, for their continued and loyal service... yet very little at all for either of you beyond the bare minimum necessary to allow you to forge lives of your own, which you turned toward stalwart defense of my people.. What reward for standing in the defense of Thenn would you bear to accept?" you ask at last simply and without artifice.

The pair share another look heavy with meaning, though far less grim in manner. After a long moment it is Danar who replies: "If both of us should perish beyond the power of any sorcery to return to life we would like for Jeyne or any other children of blood or name we might have that day be counted personal wards of the Crown."

"We have enough coin to see to see to it that she could be raised by the servants, seen off to school properly and all the rest," Alyssa continues. "But a child needs more than that and I'd sleep better knowing her fate doesn't hang just on those being paid to the task."

Remembering the fate you and Dany suffered in Braavos after Ser Willem's death you nod in understanding. Nothing like that would happen to any child of Danar and Alyssa in your realm under the watch of your laws of that you are certain, but still you can understand the concern and it is not as if another ward would be a hardship to you. "I will care for any children of yours should the day come that you cannot," you swear without a moment's hesitation.

Who do you speak to next?

[] Moonsong
-[] Write in

[] Melisandre
-[] Write in

[] Write in


OOC: I would have liked to continue this but it's already pretty long and this is a natural break point.
 
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The pair share another look heavy with meaning, though far less grim in manner. After a long moment it is Dannar who replies: "If both of us should perish beyond the power of any sorcery to return to life we would like for Jeyne or any other children of blood or name we might have that day be counted personal wards of the crown."

Can't see him not doing that anyways.
 
[X] Melisandre, you are curious about what she thinks of your plans for dealing with Winter, even as you try to get ahead of your other foes with tools she might once have named the work of madness.
-[X] Moreover you are beginning to trust her a bit more with every battle, so she shouldn't be afraid to offer counsel. At the moment you are leaning toward creating tools which Winter will be unprepared and unused to dealing with, hence their curiosity in the Wyverns, and where before you would have hesitated to even mention it, a more stable wildfire might just prove necessary for dealing with the protections Winter can weave against common or even magical flame. You also plan on obtaining metamaterials which can harm the intangible but still mass-producible so that you can spread such arms among your armies and protect greater numbers of people.
-[X] You give her a meaningful look. All of that does not put a very great stake on the weight of prophecy. You sound like a general preparing for a conventional war, talking of logistics and soldiers and the movements of supplies, not of Azor Ahai's great sacrifice, mostly because you can not countenance such sacrifices. Winter has demonstrated these past few days that it is not bound by the rules and it will not play fair. And They are not the only ones who can cheat.
-[X] After talk of the Enemy is through, move onto her rewards and her current capabilities and arsenal.
 
[X] Crake

@DragonParadox, OOC would you mind telling us how to make a Wildfire Orb? We've had the necessary information for a while now via the Tome of the Cabal Devil: Volume I. Having that for Viserys in future actions against the Court of Winter would be very useful. Hell, Melisandre might benefit as well.
 
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