A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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Edited my previous post. It's good astronomy, not astrophysics.
IMO if the past-Thenns saw today's Thenn they'd consider them primitives at the very least. Not only have they regressed technologically, but their society has been deeply transformed.
The Thenns are a branch of that society in the same sense the today's Chinese government is Marxist. There's a shared history, certainly, but they've had a lot of time and incentives to transform into something very different.
IMO if the past-Thenns saw today's Thenn they'd consider them primitives at the very least. Not only have they regressed technologically, but their society has been deeply transformed.
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@DragonParadox, minor continuity error here. Last chapter established that Purity was already in that sheath. He should be tossing his own sword on the ground at this point.
I suggest ignoring what this does to the action economy, by the way.
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That's kind of what I'm getting at -- the ancient Thenns who made the observatory in the first place hadn't yet lost that lore, and were probably very culturally similar to the North at the very least.
The modern Thenns, while not savages, are indeed regressed compared to what they once were.
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Mind you, @DragonParadox, the astronomy is wrong here. The stars above Asshai are exactly the same as the ones above Valyria or Dorne, who have similar latitudes.
There's no way to determine Asshai as the observers location if you have only the starmap.
Goldfish
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I think it was just another way to ask about what stars are visible in Asshai? We don't yet have a good IC working understanding of astrophysics, after all.
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This is very basic astronomy. Everyone who compared a star chart from Oldtown, Valyria and Yi-Ti would immediately notice that they are absolutely the same, baring the height of the constellations above the horizon.
Goldfish
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Probably just a poor turn of phrase.
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Presumably, that "baring" is where you have a problem. I read this update as saying that it was an extremely precise map (ritual bullshit makes it important), where that minute difference would matter quite a bit.
I assume that it's the position of the stars at midnight, or some other magically significant hour.
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Yeah, especially since it's Asshai, any weirdness in stars can be attributed to magic.
The height of the constellation over the horizon is what i meant, those stars are for Asshai's exact latitude.
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And the constellations would be precisely the same if you are at the same latitude at midnight, assuming you define midnight as the moment where the sun is reaching it's nadir.
After checking the map, the map could just as well have been made with northern Sothoryos in mind.
The only thing that affects the constellations you can see from a location is your latitude, not the longitude or anything else. If that does not hold true, then the solar system would have to be arranged completely differently from ours. As in, Planetos not circling it's sun differently. Which would be rather surprising to me and have some major implications for the setting.
Fair enough. Could still match that lovely city in Sothoryos that has been build by the Mindflayers or some other kind of eldritch horror, due to sharing a latitude.
Edit: Would be funny if they thought a "and drop us off in a city"-clause in their ritual would be enough to ensure they end up in Asshai and instead they popped up in the middle of a Illithid city.
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@DragonParadox
1. Did Thennhold's weirwood have anything neat about it?
2. Is it possible to carve runes into the roots or trunk of a weirwood without pissing off the Old Gods, and if so, what kind? How do Bloodraven's wards for his tree work?
1. Did Thennhold's weirwood have anything neat about it?
2. Is it possible to carve runes into the roots or trunk of a weirwood without pissing off the Old Gods, and if so, what kind? How do Bloodraven's wards for his tree work?
Ooh. I hope the Chronomancer Aboleths are taking full advantage.
- It had the same blessings as your defense trees courtesy of recent blood sacrifice
- Carving into a Heart Tree will piss them off no question, carving runes into a weirwood before it becomes a heart tree might work, but one one has had both the inclination and skill to experiment and enough favor with the old gods to get them to play along
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The Thenns have been getting busy. 👌
Shame. So is Bloodraven willing to share the lore for the wards on his personal tree?
He is but they would not really be much use seeing as they only work via the presence of an enthroned Greenseer.
Good night guys see you tomorrow with more adventures at the edge of the wrold.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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The two-way Gate that Bloodraven wanted, you mean?
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I'm 99% sure that Bloodraven never wanted that. We were thinking about it, but ultimately decided against it because it would be a massive vulnerability that could allow the Others to bypass the Wall.
No. What I meant is to reinforce the place like a WW1 fortress and storing enough explosives and Wildfyre beneath it to ensure that the Others will never be able to take that tree.
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Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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A hundred steam cannon emplacements should dissuade most things.
Edit: Maybe that can be Darleth's next project? Building a Super-Fortress around Bloodraven's tree.
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And while this is a good Plan A, especially if it's a Plan A that involves a few hundred klicks worth of razor wire, it always pays off to have a Plan C, such as a storage room full of Explosive Packs and Wildfyre.A hundred steam cannon emplacements should dissuade most things.
Plan B being, of course, to wipe the fortress, the tree and everything beneath from the map with orbital kinetic bombardment when it becomes clear it can't be held.
Goldfish
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Last time we discussed moving Bloodraven's Tree, we hadn't yet developed the ability to relocate Heart Trees.
Time have changed, maybe? With enough power and preparation, and adequate sacrifices to boost the OG and lubricate the transition, we might be able to shift the entire tree and underground complex.
Doing it might rupture the Builder's Anchor, though...
Time have changed, maybe? With enough power and preparation, and adequate sacrifices to boost the OG and lubricate the transition, we might be able to shift the entire tree and underground complex.
Doing it might rupture the Builder's Anchor, though...