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[X] Goldfish
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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[X] Goldfish
Sounds like some of those kids might have gotten Psionic powers out of this based on that telepathic screaming. Not sure how you help someone through suddenly becoming a Psion. Maybe give them a basket of puppies to commune with until they figure out how to control their powers or something?
...I'm only half joking about that; suddenly gaining the ability to read minds in this kind of scenario would really suck. Everyone around them at the time was either freaking out because of the fight or a damn illithid.
[X] Goldfish
...I'm only half joking about that; suddenly gaining the ability to read minds in this kind of scenario would really suck. Everyone around them at the time was either freaking out because of the fight or a damn illithid.
[X] Goldfish
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What do you guys think about buying back the parts of SSE, down to 10% or even 5% for each for the other 2 investors?
For ACS iron bank should probably go down to 5%.
Didn't we include a stock buyback clause when we sold it to them? I remember we added a condition like that.
We should also look into buying back some of the shares form Lyseni Spice Company, im sure a lot of the nobles would rather take the big cash if we diploed a little and we own too littile of that company.
Can someone explain to me why we allowed the iron bank to be our central bank? Didnt everyone agree only the state should have that power. We gave the iron bank massive returns and a 15% stock in ACS, its time they gave us their stock, the banks should be in the hands of us, not people we barely know and cant rely on. We don't even know a single named character who has big enough shares to matter in iron bank. We are literally trusting with our entire empires banking without knowing their stock breakdown or having any control over them.
We are currently bleeding hundreds of thousands of IM to people who bought stocks for chump change.... It feels.... really annoying, as if we are being stolen from.
For ACS iron bank should probably go down to 5%.
Didn't we include a stock buyback clause when we sold it to them? I remember we added a condition like that.
We should also look into buying back some of the shares form Lyseni Spice Company, im sure a lot of the nobles would rather take the big cash if we diploed a little and we own too littile of that company.
Can someone explain to me why we allowed the iron bank to be our central bank? Didnt everyone agree only the state should have that power. We gave the iron bank massive returns and a 15% stock in ACS, its time they gave us their stock, the banks should be in the hands of us, not people we barely know and cant rely on. We don't even know a single named character who has big enough shares to matter in iron bank. We are literally trusting with our entire empires banking without knowing their stock breakdown or having any control over them.
We are currently bleeding hundreds of thousands of IM to people who bought stocks for chump change.... It feels.... really annoying, as if we are being stolen from.
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It was a political concession to make Braavos surrender peacefully, and to keep them cooperative.
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Giving up control over our entire empires banking system though? That sounds insane for just 1 city, even a city like Braavos.
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Keep in mind it's not just your banking that benefits from the peaceful and smooth integration of Braavos, a significant part of why the realm can expand as quickly as it does comes down to Braavosi educated manpower. A content Braavos was vital to a stable realm on top of the fact that it is one of the most powerful cities in your realm with rich developed hinterlands only Volantis comes close to matching.
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The situation is a lot more complicated then that. The Iron Bank didn't even get the power to print currency like a central bank normally would have.
They are mostly setting interest rates these days and it's a good thing that is a power that is separated from the Crown and thus political concerns.
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Ya but I would have thought we would at least have bought some of their stock to maintain control even if minimal. Our entire banking and economy leans on the iron bank. For example I'm sure if we compare what we would have earned from our own banking system it outstrips any benefits Braavos gives.
Well I dont want to question old choices I just want to see if anyone else wanted to buy back some of the stock they own and perhaps buy some of their stock. If we cant do anything about it we can at least make the relationship more symbiotic than vampiric as it currently is.
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Crake
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It's also truly more cooperative with us than you'd think. Without us, currency would not be anywhere near as stable or have the immense buying power that it currently does. And we are essential, as in, we, Viserys, is personally essential to maintaining good relations with the other two members on our banking council.
Since the benefits of Braavos broadly include 'having an administration that has not crashed and burned' I doubt the profit margins shake out like that.
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Well I am not worried about that I just want to see if we can deepen that relationship enough that we at least have some influence in it.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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We already have commiserate influence in it. Only we can mint more currency.
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We would have taken over Braavos one way or another. And we simply could have hired all those admins, the stability of our admin did not depend on Braavos surrender only its acquisition. As such the profits from the entire banking system outweigh the benefits the surrender of Braavos brought us. The value was not being compared against Braavos, its compared to the value of the surrender.
That seems rather limited for such a key part of our empire.
But nevermind that, I trust IB enough not to fuck up so I dont mind. What do you guys think of the rest of my post ignoring the IB stuff. Is buying back some shares worthwhile?
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Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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Goldfish was the most vocal about that, so you might wanna ask him (or ask Duesal to shift back far enough to find that discussion).
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
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- USA
We've since gotten back our share for the loan (which was just collateral against the one we took out).
So the Myrish and the Iron Bank own 5% of ACSEC a piece, and are very much not interested in selling it back, for good reason.
Edit: As for buying out Garin and Hermetia, maybe, but we'd have to offer more than money, like helping them diversify their portfolio further with unique business opportunities.
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Where are we getting the Resolute template from?
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Think about those two parts of the sentence carefully.
Do we want our administration staffed entirely with people whose city we had to take over by force?
We hired all the Braavosi for Tyrosh and Lys precisely because we wanted additional personal that did not come from the structures of those cities right away.
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OK, let's take a look at that 'one way or another'. What justification would you have had to declare war on Braavos, keeping in mind that Viserys has sympathies towards it as to quite a lot of the companions? It is a well administrated city with no slavery and a means to handle supernatural threats better than most places. So why invade?
Things are not as simple as 'let's paint the map who cares how'.