It's not just that, it's that they had a means of training clerics from day one, no rediscovering ancient lore, no research into forbidden secrets, just go into the archives and see how they trained priests five hundred years ago, if something is not clear conjure a divine servitor of R'hllor and ask them. The combination of enduring magical tradition and divine aid is quite potent.
You guys get them, but there isn't going to be further mechanical improvement to the library since it is already of planar quality, anything they have you can replicate, if in a slightly different flavor.
[X] Plan "I'm Ready! How 'Bout You?!"
-[X] Meditate alone and try to seek the Red God.
--[X] Where: Close to Fire's lifeblood. Upon the Dragonmont.
---[X] Use @egoo's Paranoiac Buffing Scheme like some kind of pansy.
Finally finished up with my exams for the semester. Now I don't have to worry about silly things like "college" or "real life" and I can focus on catching up to the quest.
@DragonParadox did the Rhllorites have any ritual lore IE ritual spells/spells made into ritual form? They are an old institution with good magical records so it stands to reason that they have developed them.
I kinda want to wait a couple days and do the Wisp hunting mission guys. Granted DP hasn't rolled for the mission yet but it would be a "short" trip and a. cathartic one at that.
What do they have and how much can they make without it getting in the way of their Cleric duties? I am gonna want as much crafting added to the pool as possible.
"I would point out that the lore is already categorized by the level of danger it represents, such that common lore might be readily available at the first layer of the system, while restricted lore within the second layer is already monitored fastidiously, records kept of who accesses it, for what reason, and even what project it will go on to advance. That would go on to list all of the other lore, techniques, and spells developed therein." you point out, calling forth an organizational schema of the Scholarum from your cloak. Mages sometimes say in jest that it is more arcane than any grimoire, but the security aspects are very clear indeed. The last thing you need is an offender claiming ignorance. "Anything remotely dangerous that could be easily abused by anyone unobserved for a short period of time would then be held within the Royal Archive, and accessed only with the Crown's personal oversight," you conclude.
"It is not casual abuse I fear, but thoughtful and systematic," Benerro replies. He hesitates a moment, weighing his words. "I have worked with members of the Mysterium in the past, and while Wisdom Zherys has proven worthy of the title at every turn, I must admit I have less confidence in others of his order. Even Lady Elaena, whom I count among the most adept in the crafting of rituals, required aid in extracting her soul from the grasp of Hell."
"Surely she would be all the more cautious of such dangers now," Lya interjects reasonably. "The beginnings of rediscovering magic involved much stumbling in the dark." She gives a wry smile. "When I think of some of my own methods three or four years ago, I still marvel that I came out of it as well as I did. But now that the Scholarum is established with access not just to the remains of ancient arcane traditions, but the real living arts of the Genie Realms. Now that we know the shape of the Spheres and the natures of the powers that seek our ruin, the danger is far less."
"I am not sure I can entirely share your enthusiasm," the priest sighs, the drive that so animates him fading away for a moment, the lines upon his face seeming deeper. "There will always be fools and madmen." You are reminded rather abruptly that this is a man who had seen even more of the old world than Zherys, the scrambling ambition of the Old Blood, the slow decay of Volantis as it sank ever deeper into dreams of the past, and the lives of slaves grew ever more grim.
"I understand your fears, Holy One. To an extent I even share them..." Albeit you very much doubt that any rogue Scholarum mage would try to test his wits against the Red God, there are other secrets one might use with fewer guardians. "However," you continue, "The Red Faith is already deeply involved in the Scholarum by dint of the fact that many of its priesthood are mages. It has what some factions would call unreasonable sway by the sheer weight of its collective voice in multiple facets of the realm." To make the point, you draw a second parchment from your cloak, this one a list of names, the Red Priests that are formally a part of the Scholarum here in Volantis.
Lower Order Priests and Acolytes:
3x Cleric 5
7x Cleric 4
8x Cleric 3
16x Cleric 2
9x Cleric 1
One hundred and twenty five Sorcerer-Priests, no less than one might expect from an order that taught sorcery before the awakening and with access to the deepest pool of talent in Essos, but still it makes your point. "This proposal sets a rather different precedent, one that would have other groups reaching for influence beyond their purview, right, or even reach. The point of unifying the realm as much as possible in its institutions was to grant equal access and equal protection under the law from all who would abuse magic, wealth, or power by any other means, and allow for a degree of transparency rather than furthering the cabalistic practices of the Freehold, something we still have to fight against each day as more mages grasp the higher circles of spells and remain merely restless rather than recalcitrant due to the fact that they have been given the means to advance their research for their own benefit as much as the realm."
"A fair point," the Flame Keeper looks almost startled. "I must confess I have never associated our tradition with the secretive mage circles of the Dragonlords, for we accept all who come to learn with faith in R'hllor and love of their fellow man. Where R'hllor's light shines, darkness and secrets cannot long endure. Perhaps in gathering around said light, however, we have constrained it from shining upon others who may have benefited."
Alhough the answer is one that you had been seeking, you moderate your enthusiasm to merely nodding. You can see Benerro is not entirely at ease with the thought in either how it reflects his relationship to R'hllor or how he might present it to his fellows. "Perhaps a tenure for a sufficiently talented priest for a few years heading the local Scholarum, while Lord Naethyreon focuses on matters of rule, might serve as an alternative?" you offer. It would help maintain something of the equilibrium of power the city had grown used to. You have no doubt you could solve any disturbances as they arose, but better an ounce of prevention than a pound of cure.
"How would you foresee this secondment being enacted, Your Grace?" The Flame Keeper asks, looking out the window for a moment, though his gaze is lost in further places still, likely considering who might best fit the task.
"They would have to set aside their duties to the Faith, but for that time the lore could be housed here in Volantis and he could observe the procedures that we have already established are followed. This is neither unusual or upsetting in precedent. Eventually, the lore would be distributed and secured in the proper manner across the realm, but the merits of the system would have had its time to prove its worth. Should abuses follow, despite the measures taken, we might revisit the subject again, if nothing else then to revise security measures."
"Yes, that would be quite sufficient," Benerro nods firmly, a smile once more upon his features. "Thank you for your understating in this matter, I know it was not an easy path to thread. If there is anything I can do to help..."
"There is one thing I would ask of you, Holy One. If it is possible, the ritual used to bind the Herald of Ymeri. I have need of it, but it would have to cover far more space..."
"That would not be easy, nor swift, unless the Lord of Light should see fit to shine down particular good fortune upon the project," the priest replies plainly.
Speaking of the Lord of Light, you had not come to Volantis to speak only to his priests, but also to the god himself, though there remains the question of how do do so. Should you ask for Benerro's aid or wait for Lady Melisandre? Perhaps you might even try to seek out the god in solitary meditation?
What do you do?
[] Ask for Benerro's aid in contacting the Lord of Light
[] Wait for Melisandre to return from the Shadow Plane to aid you in contacting R'hllor
[] Meditate alone and try to seek the Red God
[] Write in
OOC: Well here we are, unfortunately I could not find a prestige class for divine crafter, so straight cleric it is.
Made some additional edits to the chapter, @DragonParadox.
It's not just that, it's that they had a means of training clerics from day one, no rediscovering ancient lore, no research into forbidden secrets, just go into the archives and see how they trained priests five hundred years ago, if something is not clear conjure a divine servitor of R'hllor and ask them. The combination of enduring magical tradition and divine aid is quite potent.
You know, just like with the Sealord, institutionally what we have created must seem insanely intimidating to most people.
Benerro: Starts with scholastic theology doctrine ready and waiting, has Outsiders to help advise and refine study material.
Zherys: Has deep lore reserves and lots of family archives to search through from various nobles involved in his efforts, along with people who are probably used to discourse and debate to help refine study material.
Lanna: Tries to teach a few dozen mages basically by hand, since she can't trust or rely on anyone else to do it.
Viserys: Builds a continental scale magical institution which services the people on multiple levels, economically, scholastically and on the cutting edge of research, has already produced over a thousand mages of varying levels of skill and from a dozen~ different traditions.
You know, just like with the Sealord, institutionally what we have created must seem insanely intimidating to most people.
Benerro: Starts with scholastic theology doctrine ready and waiting, has Outsiders to help advise and refine study material.
Zherys: Has deep lore reserves and lots of family archives to search through from various nobles involved in his efforts, along with people who are probably used to discourse and debate to help refine study material.
Lanna: Tries to teach a few dozen mages basically by hand, since she can't trust or rely on anyone else to do it.
Viserys: Builds a continental scale magical institution which services the people on multiple levels, economically, scholastically and on the cutting edge of research, has already produced over a thousand mages of varying levels of skill and from a dozen~ different traditions.
Our habit of taking everyone's libraries probably helps quite a bit.
EDIT: On that subject, @DragonParadox, are there any other unique rituals or lore that the R'hllor Temple or the Mysterium have? For example, does Zherys have anything on that one book he gave us about how to freely apply metamagic to Create Demiplane? And does Benerro have lore on how to enhance creating Fire Spirits?
A bit off topic, but looking for those barrier spells reminded me of a few other personal combat spells I bookmarked for the companions.
Bartering Blast is a level three spell that, if I'm reading it correctly, gives 4 blasts that cause 5d6 force damage each and allow a CMB 32 bull rush on hit. Each blast past the first that hits gives their CMB a +10 bonus, and you roll each bull rush then take the highest when multiple blasts hit the same target. So if we smacked one person with all 4 of them it'd be a best of 4 CMB 62 bull rush attempts.
Banishing Blade so Richard can stab outsiders so hard they need to make a will save to stay on the same plane as him. The free bull rush the first time he hits someone every round is pretty useful outside of that as well.
Animus Mine not sure if this one was brought up already, but an item for this from the Gith would make for a nice spite shot at anyone who tries mind effecting stuff.
Battering Blast is a fantastic combat spell we just haven't had a chance to use. Not many of our people can learn it, but I would like Lya to have it, at least.
Animus Mine is a neat effect I wasn't aware of. Might need to make a PoSK of that one.
Banishing Blade wouldn't be awful, but it would be better if someone just cast a Dismissal or Banishment spell on the Outsider in question, IMO.
BTW, you're vote won't be counted by the tally if you leave the Edit tag in front of it.
What do they have and how much can they make without it getting in the way of their Cleric duties? I am gonna want as much crafting added to the pool as possible.
They take very crafting feat as they have the level for it, scroll at level 1 Wondrous item at 3 etc... As for what they can make, well they are crafters so they mostly focus on that, but up to this point they have mostly been making stuff for the church. How much they should make for the state is something to hash out IC.