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To me, that reads as: if they stay above ground, you can hit them with the Anvils- for example, if they stay under the lip of the caldera, around the Citadel. That doesn't necessarily mean Kragg can loft his lava chasm attack 2km away to the next mountain over.

The dwarves have 30 Grapecannon (good for tearing through snotlings, if nothing else) in Karagril, with another 20 Scorpio bolt throwers we moved down to help hold back the Karak Drazh Corridor.

I have my doubts about some grapecannon wiping out hundreds of orcs pouring into the Caldera every second.

But hey, maybe I'm wrong. That'd be nice.
We're not getting hundreds per second, though. We'll be getting about 20 per second. If the orcs want to send that stream to die against the Citadel's defenses, I am fine with them doing that as long as they feel like it.
I did really like this part:

This thread has been worrying about it for some weeks, but Mathilde is just like "COME AT ME NERDS, I'LL GIVE YOU ALL SWIRLIES"
Well, she is rocking +47 against being counterspelled by orcs...
 
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Don't you all start that. We are about to wield the power of the dwarven God of the Dead. Do not go into battle thinking about violating his principle tennents. And it would be fucking illegal under dwarf law, and fucking sacrilege. Dont.
Very clearly prefaced that with , "I don't want to" but I see never being welcome in dwarves society better then having every single dwarf in K8P die. I don't think it will come to this and again I don't want it to. But I would like to think that having the option to become an exile for the lives of 10's of thousands is a good one. Not that we even need to take it, just to have the option.

@BoneyM Is it possible to use the Sun movement spell to briefly hit both the East gates and Caldera with the Eye?
 
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For all the cat jokes we aren't actually a cat. No need to hare off chasing shadows, we got a huge pile of research topics to plow through and the peace to do it with!

To me, that reads as: if they stay above ground, you can hit them with the Anvils- for example, if they stay under the lip of the caldera, around the Citadel. That doesn't necessarily mean Kragg can loft his lava chasm attack 2km away to the next mountain over.

The dwarves have 30 Grapecannon (good for tearing through snotlings, if nothing else) in Karagril, with another 20 Scorpio bolt throwers we moved down to help hold back the Karak Drazh Corridor.

I have my doubts about some grapecannon wiping out hundreds of orcs pouring into the Caldera every second.

But hey, maybe I'm wrong. That'd be nice.
We WISH it was a hundred orcs per second.

Twenty orcs per second could be wiped out at the reload rate for our regular arty if they stood close together.
 
Very clearly prefaced that with , "I don't want to" but I see never being welcome in dwarves society better then having every single dwarf in K8P die. I don't think it will come to this and again I don't want it to. But I would like to think that having the option to become an exile for the lives of 10's of thousands is a good one. Not that we even need to take it, just to have the option.

@BoneyM Is it possible to use the Sun movement spell to briefly hit both the East gates and Caldera with the Eye?
That's not how shadows work. To do that you'd need two light sources at minimum.
 
If they continuously stream into the killzone a few hundred at a time without bothering to prepare for a more meaningful assault then the artillery and archers can wipe them out without our help.

And I'm pretty sure that orcs understand the concept of "winding up for a big punch".
The question I ask is: Just how would they wind up for a big assault? As in, where would they stage and where would they strike? What approaches do they have that don't bring them under our guns?
 
So ive been reading this in reader mode and just now got to the end. I must have skimmed over it. But...

Given that there is trolls and ogres and a few skaven in some of the mountains and one of the mounts just plain bloody empty, how exactly does the dwarves get to claim all 8 peaks?

Also where is the map again in the info tab?
 
The question I ask is: Just how would they wind up for a big assault? As in, where would they stage and where would they strike? What approaches do they have that don't bring them under our guns?
Outside the range of our guns in the caldera and outside of the Citadel and cliff's shadow but past the West Gate.
 
So ive been reading this in reader mode and just now got to the end. I must have skimmed over it. But...

Given that there is trolls and ogres and a few skaven in some of the mountains and one of the mounts just plain bloody empty, how exactly does the dwarves get to claim all 8 peaks?

Also where is the map again in the info tab?
Under Maps, in the Spoiler "Thread-Canonical Maps of Karak Eight Peaks".
 
The question I ask is: Just how would they wind up for a big assault? As in, where would they stage and where would they strike? What approaches do they have that don't bring them under our guns?

They can amass for a big push while outside of artillery range and then try to rush through no-mans land with enough bodies to make it to Karagril despite the losses, or they can try to enter one of the other mountains - which will probably take several hours of excavation on the short end of things if we seal them off properly.

Either way we buy time for more of them to enter our killzone.
 
So ive been reading this in reader mode and just now got to the end. I must have skimmed over it. But...

Given that there is trolls and ogres and a few skaven in some of the mountains and one of the mounts just plain bloody empty, how exactly does the dwarves get to claim all 8 peaks?

Also where is the map again in the info tab?
Basically: The troll mountain is empty enough that the dwarves could set up shop in there with just a few cordons and it would count. They set up the cordons, so it counts. The mountains with the Skaven in them have them mostly dead or running; Eshin did run away, and Skyre was shattered when they filled their own halls with poison gas and then got Dragon'd. They're not fit to hold any sort of political territory, so they don't count, and the dwarves coming in to clean them up and establish claims do. The totally empty mountain actually has one dwarven unit in it, and it's empty because that unit kept beating everybody else up until they stopped coming, so you might say it never actually fell.

There are no ogres in any of the mountains; those are a specific thing that isn't in Eight Peaks, they're out further east.
 
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Two thoughts- first, I *wish* we had a cavalry force, even just an elite squad, stationed/hidden in Ziflin right now. They could ride havoc immediately after the eye fired the first time, if they trusted the eye not to burn them, they could slash at the orcs huddled in the shadow of the rim and bait groups out to be ashed.

Second- immediately after this battle, when both Kragg and Thorek are looking at their dwindling arsenals of charged major battlerunes, is exactly the right time to mention that we may have a recharge method. Maybe even before the battle, so they don't sacrifice dwarf lives being miserly with the power. :)
 
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Two thoughts- first, I *wish* we had a cavalry force, even just an elite squad, stationed/hidden in Ziflin right now. They could ride havoc immediately after the eye fired the first time, if they trusted the eye not to burn them, they could slash at the orcs huddled in the shadow of the rim and bait groups out to be ashed.

Second- immediately after this battle, when both Kragg and Thorgrim are looking at their dwindling arsenals of charged major battlerunes, is exactly the right time to mention that we may have a recharge method. Maybe even before the battle, so they don't sacrifice dwarf lives being miserly with the power. :)
Well, we have Gyrocopters. They can do at least part of the job.

Thorek, not Thorgrim. And yeah, I'm gonna be pushing for the Overwork action being working on the Vitae in Collaboration, max, on top of a regular Vitae action.
 
Second- immediately after this battle, when both Kragg and Thorgrim are looking at their dwindling arsenals of charged major battlerunes, is exactly the right time to mention that we may have a recharge method. Maybe even before the battle, so they don't sacrifice dwarf lives being miserly with the power. :)
I don't think they are going to be miserly with power right now. K8P just reclaimed? Any orc that catches their eye is going down so fast they'll still think they are in Black Crag.

This is the moment. The final fight before K8P is safely in dwarf hands. I wouldn't be surprised if they popped everything they have. I am looking forward to the two greatest runelords of an age covering the caldera with blood and fire. This is the moment they've been waiting for. I fully expect this to be one of their greatest showings.
 
I don't think they are going to be miserly with power right now. K8P just reclaimed? Any orc that catches their eye is going down so fast they'll still think they are in Black Crag.

This is the moment. The final fight before K8P is safely in dwarf hands. I wouldn't be surprised if they popped everything they have. I am looking forward to the two greatest runelords of an age covering the caldera with blood and fire. This is the moment they've been waiting for. I fully expect this to be one of their greatest showings.
It's also possibly Thorek's last chance to not be completely upstaged by Kragg. It's not just the lives of everyone, the fate of this Karak and that of Azul, it's his pride.

I admit I have a small concern as to whether Kragg and Thorek will actually be on Dispel duty considering the former never did any during the initial reclamation despite theoretically being better than us at it and being on the same battlefields as us twice (back when we were Learning 20).
 
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It's also possibly Thorek's last chance to not be completely upstaged by Kragg. It's not just the lives of everyone, the fate of his Karak and that of Azul, it's his pride.

I admit I have a small concern as to whether Kragg and Thorek will actually be on Dispel duty considering the former never did any during the initial reclamation despite theoretically being better than us at it and being on the same battlefields as us twice (back when we were Learning 20).
Honestly I think that any shamans they have will be scrambling to get as far away from those two as possible. If I could sense magic and those two starting throwing down with my friends I would very quickly decide I had made a poor choice in friends.
 
Second- immediately after this battle, when both Kragg and Thorgrim are looking at their dwindling arsenals of charged major battlerunes, is exactly the right time to mention that we may have a recharge method. Maybe even before the battle, so they don't sacrifice dwarf lives being miserly with the power. :)
Dwarves are not going to risk untested stuff unless they have literally no choice.
 
I admit I have a small concern as to whether Kragg and Thorek will actually be on Dispel duty considering the former never did any during the initial reclamation despite theoretically being better than us at it and being on the same battlefields as us twice (back when we were Learning 20).
I imagine the East Gate battle was lack of opportunity and the chaos of it all, while Kragg was rather busy laying waste to all before him for the Karag Nar battle.
 
Plausible. Wait, by that logic won't both be even busier than Kragg was in the latter battle?
Likely, but the shamans have to survive the two runelords sensing them and then destroying everything around the shamans before they can cast a spell.

They may not be counter spelling much but any shaman that reveals their existence is going to die.
 
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