Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Guile
Having a really great time right now
Fair.
So we just need to hope that the fight maniacs, who just got so jazzed up that they emptied their Karak and all one million of them spent the last 24 hours running riotously all the way around the mountain range to come bring the fight to us, decide to stop their headlong WAAAGH outside of artillery range, reform their ranks, and then ready themselves before slamming headfirst into our fortifications propa-like.
I'm not some kind of orc scholar, but I feel like that's unlikely.
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BungieONI
Seven gremlins in a trench coat
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I think the only place you'd be able to get that sort of intrigue is on Nagarythe, temporarily until we have to leave or do good enough they invite us to stay (if that can possibly happen). And then she'd get good pretty quickly under pressure and it would no longer present that threat surface.
Mathilde is very good at taking apart conspiracies now, far more than she was when she left the Empire, so I don't think the Empire will present the same sort of "Well fuck we might just up and die or lose the conspirator we're chasing" drama and threat surface that Stirland had.
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[X] FIRST LINE: Caldera
[X] SECOND LINE: Hold
[X] THIRD LINE: Eastern Valley
[X] SECOND LINE: Hold
[X] THIRD LINE: Eastern Valley
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It was specifically mentioned by Boney in the list of things they stayed exposed to:
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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To be fair, any Warboss that can send his Boys on a 24 hour run is good enough to be able to form them into a single unit to be more effective. Willing is more up in the air.
BungieONI
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There's also the encouragement to form up in the form of our artillery smacking them in the schnoze over and over.
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If they continuously stream into the killzone a few hundred at a time without bothering to prepare for a more meaningful assault then the artillery and archers can wipe them out without our help.
And I'm pretty sure that orcs understand the concept of "winding up for a big punch".
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Of course not. We don't have anywhere near enough.
We do not have anywhere near the knowledge to be able to even understand WTF Old One tech is, let alone study it.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
To me, that reads as: if they stay above ground, you can hit them with the Anvils- for example, if they stay under the lip of the caldera, around the Citadel. That doesn't necessarily mean Kragg can loft his lava chasm attack 2km away to the next mountain over.
The dwarves have 30 Grapecannon (good for tearing through snotlings, if nothing else) in Karagril, with another 20 Scorpio bolt throwers we moved down to help hold back the Karak Drazh Corridor.
I have my doubts about some grapecannon wiping out hundreds of orcs pouring into the Caldera every second.
But hey, maybe I'm wrong. That'd be nice.
[X] FIRST LINE: Caldera
[X] SECOND LINE: Hold
[X] THIRD LINE: Underway
[X] SECOND LINE: Hold
[X] THIRD LINE: Underway
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
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Well not right now, no, but after we figured out more of the AV and had guidance from the Slann--as horrifically unlikely as that may be--it might be possible. Far, far, far in the future, certainly, but possible. We just need an in to get started, and if AV is what I think it is, it might serve.
Actually I think there are ways to up the anty in the Empire.
the first and most obvious is put her in a situation where the bad guys* are making the first moves. for most of Striland, we were allowed to pick when a fight started for real, give the other side the ability to hit back or hit first or hit where we are not looking and it becomes harder.
the other way is to make it a grey vs grey fight, or even make us the bad guy, (we work for the empire, the empire is not always on the side of angels) were we have to figure out what to do when 'kill them all' is not the option.
make it a completely magical problem, a super hard, complex, magical problem.
and this just the top of my head. the Empire is a big and wonderful and terrible place. if your thinking we out levelled it, you're just not being imaginative.
Maybe in 50 years or so. That is a very big maybe.
BungieONI
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I mean "just not being imaginative" is one way to frame what I'm describing. Not one I adhere to though.
I largely expect what we'd be dealing with is figuring out why all of the upper echelon religious folks are actively and maliciously incompetent which reeks of enemy action.
And it'd be fun and challenging more than likely, but I find it less interesting of a threat surface than what is present around Karak Eight Peaks where we are protecting something or helping something grow strong enough to protect itself.
E: The bad guys making the first move doesn't make the threat surface interesting for me either given I can have that here in Karak Eight Peaks as well.
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We have a whole bunch of artillery that was too large to lug down into the tunnels, but works just fine in open air. We don't have much less cannon than we did when we brought down Castle Drakenhof.
HonzaShanzaki
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[X] FIRST LINE: Caldera
[X] SECOND LINE: Hold
[X] THIRD LINE: Eastern Valley
A lot was invested into the Eye of Gazul. We should use it as much as possible.
[X] SECOND LINE: Hold
[X] THIRD LINE: Eastern Valley
A lot was invested into the Eye of Gazul. We should use it as much as possible.
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I honestly have zero intention to leave Karak Eight Peaks for a good long while. I love the hell out of Belegar, the importance of this place, how it is a new hope for the Dwarves and a multicultural community that brings people together, it's awesome. We have soooo much invested here already, so many research topics to catch up on, I could easily see Mathilde being here for a very long time. Maybe the occasional Adventure, but Mathilde has made a home here.
On a different note, boy this is so narratively weird. We just got done kicking the ass of the entire Karak and retaking almost everything, through the power of non-conventional strategy and brilliant tactical maneuvers, and then it almost doesn't matter because now we are the only ones fighting against the simultaneous super invasion that might just lose us several mountains again for a while. Should've been a climax of the past several years, but now the story is reeling back for a second, even bigger punch. Why Drazh dice gotta be so inconvenient.
On a different note, boy this is so narratively weird. We just got done kicking the ass of the entire Karak and retaking almost everything, through the power of non-conventional strategy and brilliant tactical maneuvers, and then it almost doesn't matter because now we are the only ones fighting against the simultaneous super invasion that might just lose us several mountains again for a while. Should've been a climax of the past several years, but now the story is reeling back for a second, even bigger punch. Why Drazh dice gotta be so inconvenient.
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We use that great deed we got to commission a magical labship and sail the world looking for neat magic stuff and getting into scraps against the enemies of man.
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Nice to see Belgae employing the old coach's trick of pinning the news article saying they can't do it onto the locker room wall.
Mathilda should ideally spend this battle married to the Eye. This is its first chance to go Prime Time and it would be best if we are on hand to learn how enemies might go about counterspelling something on this scale, and to welcome any Shaman into her magical cage match.
Mathilda should ideally spend this battle married to the Eye. This is its first chance to go Prime Time and it would be best if we are on hand to learn how enemies might go about counterspelling something on this scale, and to welcome any Shaman into her magical cage match.
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I did really like this part:
This thread has been worrying about it for some weeks, but Mathilde is just like "COME AT ME NERDS, I'LL GIVE YOU ALL SWIRLIES"
HonzaShanzaki
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love the bolded ellipsis. just emphasizes the dwarf's wtf reaction to Mat.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
I like our surroundings, but I'm getting kind of bored of operating in them, personally (as in, as an operator). We can't really interact with any enemy populations without outing ourselves, so they're really more like forts full of bad guys than actual towns with people and stuff, we're basically sitting on a big pile of dwarves and humans highly unlikely to go and do anything we'd heavily disapprove of (like worshiping prohibited gods), and, while Waaaghs can kill us in new and interesting ways, once you've assassinated the warboss of one you've assassinated the warboss of all of them; high risk, but a low fun reward.
The things I like about our home are that we can trust our neighbors, we can build magical superweapons without them looking at us funny, and we can indulge our desire to construct wizard towers.
This leads me to believe that while staying here in the sense that this is our home is a good idea if we want to continue to do wizardy things, we should have our adventures further afield, preferably amongst people that we can interact with without automatically getting stabbed, and seek out new and interesting things to stab that we haven't stabbed before. The Elfventure is a good example of what I'm talking about, and after we take that I think the thread can look around and see if there's anything else in that vein they'd be interested in pursuing.
The things I like about our home are that we can trust our neighbors, we can build magical superweapons without them looking at us funny, and we can indulge our desire to construct wizard towers.
This leads me to believe that while staying here in the sense that this is our home is a good idea if we want to continue to do wizardy things, we should have our adventures further afield, preferably amongst people that we can interact with without automatically getting stabbed, and seek out new and interesting things to stab that we haven't stabbed before. The Elfventure is a good example of what I'm talking about, and after we take that I think the thread can look around and see if there's anything else in that vein they'd be interested in pursuing.
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