Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

[X] Remain in Karak Eight Peaks, either in the employ of Belegar or pursuing your research.

[X] Give them away...
- [X] To the Amber College

[X] Speak with King Belegar and King Kazador about the relationships and apparent rifts between Dwarfholds.
This suggests a future assisting Karak Eight Peaks with foreign relations, as a Spymaster focused on threats outside the Karak.

[X] Scout the rest of the Eight Peaks, to find out what other horrors are waiting out there.
This suggests a future assisting Karak Eight Peaks with its reconquest, as a Spymaster focused on threats within the Karak.

[X] King Belegar is allowing you to use the King's Armoury. Recover your extant study materials from Stirland and tuck them away safely in there.

Angelform said:

What do you classify the Black Lotus poison as if not a bioweapon?

On an entirely different note does anyone know why, in a world were the Dwarfs had airships three thousand years ago, people travel across horrifically inhospitable wastes to reach Ind and Cathy on foot? Seems like it would be vastly saner to put an airfleet together. Lots of money to be made with even a moderately safe and reliable trade link.

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And gyrocopters flying across the Dark Lands like that could potentially trigger the Dawi Zharr into more aggressive behavior.

Candesce said:

Honestly, given our mix of internal and external spymastering - I think checking out the status of the Empire and figuring out where things stand with regards to, say, availability of reinforcements for a push on another peak, or the organization and advertisement of the Ind/Cathay trade route, falls entirely within our duties.

So, I'd be perfectly happy to vote for meeting up more seriously once full turns start if we don't talk to them now.

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Our job duties are already starting to look very broad, id rather not add to it when there are other councillors that can handle them just a effectively.

Availability of reinforcements?
Diplomacy: The diplomat can just ask that stuff (with diplomacy ofc)

Organization and Advertisment of Trade Route?
Stewardship: the only reason for us to do this personally is to use that position to profit from EIC.

[X] Return to the Empire, either to seek employ there or to return to your holdings in
[X] Keep them to be hatched.

[X] Speak with King Belegar and King Kazador about the relationships and apparent rifts between Dwarfholds.
This suggests a future assisting Karak Eight Peaks with foreign relations, as a Spymaster focused on threats outside the Karak.

[X] Scout the rest of the Eight Peaks, to find out what other horrors are waiting out there.
This suggests a future assisting Karak Eight Peaks with its reconquest, as a Spymaster focused on threats within the Karak.

[X] Try to follow Johann, to see what he's getting up to.
This suggests a future assisting Karak Eight Peaks with its reconquest, as a Spymaster focused on threats within the Karak.

[X] Claim the site where Ranald mugged Mork and build a shrine to Ranald there.
This suggests a future assisting Karak Eight Peaks, as leader of the Undumgi and point of contact for the Ulricans.

[X] King Belegar is allowing you to use the King's Armoury. Recover your extant study materials from Stirland and tuck them away safely in there.
This suggests a future catching up on your pre-existing study topics.

BungieONI said:

Hey. This kind of thinking that glorifies dehumanizing them has gotten this thread whacked before. Can we not advocate biological warfare against them and get it locked again?

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Ok, no prob, edited my original post.

Just to be clear i was referring to airdropped fungal pesticide and some thing like an effective sterile ratpoison.
IRRC these Greenskins is of the fungi kind and not the woman ravaging kind ( like in the goblin slayer).
And of rats... they have to do something about the rats...

Derpmind said:

It's only been 3 months. Plus, we'll have gyrocopter access.

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Three months? Remind me, how long did it take Anton to pull a dragon out of his ass?

B_omega said:

Ok, no prob, edited my original post.

Just to be clear i was referring to airdropped fungal pesticide and some thing like an effective sterile ratpoison.
IRRC these Greenskins is of the fungi kind and not the woman ravaging kind ( like in the goblin slayer).
And of rats... they have to do something about the rats...

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Okay? Can you just backpedal from this topic entirely and talk about something else please? Clarifying like this hasn't exactly made you look better.

[X] Remain in Karak Eight Peaks, either in the employ of Belegar or pursuing your research.

[X] Give them away...
- [X] To the Amber College

[X] Claim the site where Ranald mugged Mork and build a shrine to Ranald there.
[X] King Belegar is allowing you to use the King's Armoury. Recover your extant study materials from Stirland and tuck them away safely in there.
[X] Scout the rest of the Eight Peaks, to find out what other horrors are waiting out there.

[X] Remain in Karak Eight Peaks, either in the employ of Belegar or pursuing your research.
[X] Give them away...
- [X] To the Amber College
[X] Join Karak Azul as they raid and scout in force the other portions of the Karak.
[X] Scout the rest of the Eight Peaks, to find out what other horrors are waiting out there.
[X] King Belegar is allowing you to use the King's Armoury. Recover your extant study materials from Stirland and tuck them away safely in there.

B_omega said:

Ok, no prob, edited my original post.

Just to be clear i was referring to airdropped fungal pesticide and some thing like an effective sterile ratpoison.
IRRC these Greenskins is of the fungi kind and not the woman ravaging kind ( like in the goblin slayer).
And of rats... they have to do something about the rats...

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And if Mathilde decides to embark on a quest for vengeance against the entire greenskin race, we can talk about it then. Until that point, suggesting genocide is ooc and makes everybody uncomfortable, so please stop.

[X] Remain in Karak Eight Peaks, either in the employ of Belegar or pursuing your research.

[X] Give them away...
- [X] To the Amber College

[x] All this time away has made you miss your friends, and you'll be practically next door in Altdorf. Visit Anton and Wilhelmina.
[x] King Belegar is allowing you to use the King's Armoury. Recover your extant study materials from Stirland and tuck them away safely in there.
[x] You've been out of touch for a while. Linger in Altdorf after you visit the College and catch up with what's been happening in the Empire.

[X] Remain in Karak Eight Peaks, either in the employ of Belegar or pursuing your research.

[X] Claim the site where Ranald mugged Mork and build a shrine to Ranald there.

[X] King Belegar is allowing you to use the King's Armoury. Recover your extant study materials from Stirland and tuck them away safely in there.

[X] Remain in Karak Eight Peaks, either in the employ of Belegar or pursuing your research.

[X] Give them away...
- [X] To the Amber College

[X] Speak with King Belegar and King Kazador about the relationships and apparent rifts between Dwarfholds.
This suggests a future assisting Karak Eight Peaks with foreign relations, as a Spymaster focused on threats outside the Karak.

[X] Scout the rest of the Eight Peaks, to find out what other horrors are waiting out there.
This suggests a future assisting Karak Eight Peaks with its reconquest, as a Spymaster focused on threats within the Karak.

[X] King Belegar is allowing you to use the King's Armoury. Recover your extant study materials from Stirland and tuck them away safely in there.

Angelform said:

What do you classify the Black Lotus poison as if not a bioweapon?

On an entirely different note does anyone know why, in a world were the Dwarfs had airships three thousand years ago, people travel across horrifically inhospitable wastes to reach Ind and Cathy on foot? Seems like it would be vastly saner to put an airfleet together. Lots of money to be made with even a moderately safe and reliable trade link.

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Hmm, now that is something to think about.
IRRC :
1. The Dwarves do NOT have reliable lighter-then-air ships, so staying in the air is a problem of fuel and parts endurance.
The zepelins they do have, are the work of mad engineers.
2. The fyling machine might cost as much as a single caravan, requires a lot maintenance, and require dwarven fuel and engineers on both side of the ports to make it airworthy on the way back.
Meaning, they have to have a Karak or a post in the Ind and Cathay as well to fix, fuel and supply those airships.

But i'm sure enterprising Dwarves have tried so before, so with K8P airport now open, it will make such trip more viable.

[X] Remain in Karak Eight Peaks, either in the employ of Belegar or pursuing your research.

While initially, I wasn't too fond of the idea of sticking with the dworfs I feel like by now it's basically already decided and I've grown on these very angry and hairy men.

[X] Give them away...
- [X] To the Amber College

I feel keeping the eggs is just asking for another AP sink which I do not want so let's foist it for favors

[X] Claim the site where Ranald mugged Mork and build a shrine to Ranald there.

I swear to Ranald if making his shrine doesn't win I'm going to scream because he deserves and to be honest it's just a cool idea in general.

[x] All this time away has made you miss your friends, and you'll be practically next door in Altdorf. Visit Anton and Wilhelmina.

Let's talk to our friends before we start normal turns again and let Wilhelmina know about the new trade route. Also, I really want to see Anton again since while he's definitely going to invite us to his wedding I still want to see more of him.

[x] King Belegar is allowing you to use the King's Armoury. Recover your extant study materials from Stirland and tuck them away safely in there.

I feel this is non-negotiable since we finally got our wizard tower so let's get our snake juice and study it

Time to vote..

[X] Remain in Karak Eight Peaks, either in the employ of Belegar or pursuing your research.
We haven't gone 'long' enough to come back home Stirland, and there's so many we can do or invest in a newly conquered city, we'll be fools to go home now.

[X] Give them away...
- [X] To the Amber College
As Favours, you know..
Another write in option, is to give them to our pals, Esbern and Seija, but as no one vote on it..

[X] Though your future relationship with the spiders is still unknown, they do appear to be a new species and you do have a number of corpses available. Have Esbern and Seija help you autopsy the creatures for a paper.
This suggests a future of investigation and study at Karak Eight Peaks, and perhaps helping Johann poke at Skaven technology.

We've fight and kill everyone, but so far the spiders and the Skaven the least.

[X] Make a full report on the geopolitical troubles among the Dwarven Empire, even though some of it was said to you in confidence.
This suggests a future performing an assignment the Grey Order thinks is suited to you.
We're Grey, it's what we do.

[X] Remain in Karak Eight Peaks, either in the employ of Belegar or pursuing your research.

[X] Give them away...
- [X] To the Amber College

[X] King Belegar is allowing you to use the King's Armoury. Recover your extant study materials from Stirland and tuck them away safely in there.
[X] All this time away has made you miss your friends, and you'll be practically next door in Altdorf. Visit Anton and Wilhelmina.

Since it's on the way to Altdorf and back to Karak Eight Peaks, let's catch up with our friends, and move our research material out of Stirland.

[ ] Make a full report on the geopolitical troubles among the Dwarven Empire, even though some of it was said to you in confidence.

I want to hold off on this and gather more information. It's clear from our conversation with Prince Gotri that we aren't getting a full picture of Dwarven Geo-politics between the holds yet, so any report we are going to hand over to the Grey Order is going to be an incomplete perspective that I suspect would need updating later.

[X] Speak with King Belegar and King Kazador about the relationships and apparent rifts between Dwarfholds.

On one hand, this is likely not a war-mini-turn, so it' seems that this is the more thematically appropriate choice, especially since we made contact with Dwarven Royalty last turn. Also, we shouldn't be making reports about the geo-political issues within the Dwarven Holds, without a clearer picture of the situation as previously mentioned In any case, I'm actually reluctant to commit some of the more confidential information on Dwarven geopolitics into formal writing - I'd rather make the report face to face to Regimand and Algard in private. Before we come to a decision as to what to do with this intelligence though, we need to gather more information.

[ ] Join Karak Azul as they raid and scout in force the other portions of the Karak.

On the other hand, it's also a tempting prospect to join Karak Azul on their raids, which might help us network further with King Kazador. Though we might want to take this option together with scouting the rest of Karak Eight Peaks, for the synergies. I do want to vote for this, but I'd want to do it in a mini-turn where we aren't heading back to Altdorf/Empire for business.

Right now I am leaning towards research focus but also on call for Belegar. That way we don't have to deal with everything that Belegar will have to juggle but when he wants to start a new offense he can just ring us up.

That way Mathilde can focus on expanding her knowledge of magic and magical abilities and get rid of her backlog. If she was on a council then she would have a lot more restrictions on her actions slot.

This way Mathilde would be much more like her free citizen turns which I enjoyed a great deal.

DarkLight140 said:

This is... if we care about our standing in the Grey College, I suspect it's basically the most important thing that we could do.

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I agree. I want to gather more information before we send a report but I feel the insights will be of great value to the order. It sucks that we will be breaking the confidence of those who hold us in high standing but that is just how things happen when you are a spy. It's highly unlikely to become public knowledge since the grey order will not do anything to risk their highest placed source in the Karaz Ankor.

Glau said:

Can I interest anyone in giving away our torq as well? We use dread aspect a lot, but seem to be pushing away from battlefield command, so I think that slot is better used for other things.

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Absolutely not. I could see swapping it out, but I refuse to support regifting a magic artifact.

[X] Remain in Karak Eight Peaks, either in the employ of Belegar or pursuing your research.


[X] Give them away...
- [X] To the Amber College

[X] Claim the site where Ranald mugged Mork and build a shrine to Ranald there.
[X] Scout the rest of the Eight Peaks, to find out what other horrors are waiting out there.
[X] Try to follow Johann, to see what he's getting up to.
[X] Join Karak Azul as they raid and scout in force the other portions of the Karak.

Neshuakadal said:

Right now I am leaning towards research focus but also on call for Belegar. That way we don't have to deal with everything that Belegar will have to juggle but when he wants to start a new offense he can just ring us up.

That way Mathilde can focus on expanding her knowledge of magic and magical abilities and get rid of her backlog. If she was on a council then she would have a lot more restrictions on her actions slot.

This way Mathilde would be much more like her free citizen turns which I enjoyed a great deal.

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Interesting thoughts.

What do others think of something like that?

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[X] Remain in Karak Eight Peaks, either in the employ of Belegar or pursuing your research.

[X] All this time away has made you miss your friends, and you'll be practically next door in Altdorf. Visit Anton and Wilhelmina.
This suggests a future in Stirland, whether Roswita likes it or not.
[X] You've been out of touch for a while. Linger in Altdorf after you visit the College and catch up with what's been happening in the Empire.
This suggests a future seeking employment on the Council of an Elector Count.

We have done nothing but dwarf actions so far and I don't want to totally lose touch with the Empire. That said I do want to be based in Karak Eight Peaks.

EVA-Saiyajin said:

Interesting thoughts.

What do others think of something like that?

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I'm in favor. I know we're gonna have some Undumgi stuff to do as well but that's okay with me since that has nice tie in into making sure the Karag is secure and the Karak as well. Internal security is much easier to do while researching compared to External security and researching.

As for the vote we're staying in K8P while giving the eggies to the Ambers and claiming the shrine to Ranald while convincing Belebro to let us use the Armory and scouting the interior of the peaks. Scouting has a nine vote lead over the next leading, which is visiting with Anton and Wilhelmina while in Altdorf.

Eh, I'm fine with doing a 'Visit Friends, Grab our shit, check with the Empire' combo next turn but I just have different priorities right now.