Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol, and the weakening of Mork and strengthening of Ranald.
[X] She disobeyed a superior Wizard and her commanding officer. Lecture her harshly but inflict no punishment.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
If there ever is a time to bring up Ranald, it's after he's done someone a big favour.
[X] She disobeyed a superior Wizard and her commanding officer. Lecture her harshly but inflict no punishment.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
If there ever is a time to bring up Ranald, it's after he's done someone a big favour.
And that is why Lord grade Battle Casting is considered such a Big Deal.
Shame he was out of practice and needed a few turns to get back into the swing of things.
While I am against direct punishment for our disobedient journeymanling I feel we should still inflict some constructive suffering. If we get longer turns then something like training her into the ground everyday for a month. Get her real acquainted with exhaustion. Side benefit, she get to Study the Blade. Or at least the Stick if we can't convince her to upgrade.
Mork getting his teeth kicked in is a good thing. No reason not to spread the news.
If we can take the Citadel then we should. Momentum is important, particularly against rapidly replenishing enemies.
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol, and the weakening of Mork.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
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The Greys explicitly train their members for it, though. This is very much Mathilde's wheelhouse.
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We could also regale her with spooky ghost stories about miscasts.
I mean, Mathilde both has her own experience with them, and she's pretty much ideally suited to tell spooky stories around a campfire. Lights dim, the campfire simmers out, strange shadows creep around the clearing. A thin mist seems to appear out of nowhere, coiling around the attendees. From the darkness, glowing eyes stare directly at the listeners.
I mean, Mathilde both has her own experience with them, and she's pretty much ideally suited to tell spooky stories around a campfire. Lights dim, the campfire simmers out, strange shadows creep around the clearing. A thin mist seems to appear out of nowhere, coiling around the attendees. From the darkness, glowing eyes stare directly at the listeners.
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I realize this has already been responded to and I'm not really adding anything new now but I don't want you to think I'm disrespecting you by not reading your post so I'm going to go ahead and give a full dissection of what you said.
Personally I'm a bit dubious on any actual utility of people knowing that Mork has been weakened and I'm not sure how Kragg could take advantage (but then he's Kragg so who knows) but yes I agree with everything here.
Your introduction, nothing I can argue with here.
Dwarfs are very respectful of others trade secrets. Additionally Mathilde is a wizard and not just any wizard a Grey Wizard, they tend to be tight lipped and mysterious. Basically we can easily get away with not mentioning the specifics.
We can't actually use the Ranald coin yet.
I don't see why they'd be more critical of our actions. We are mentioning three things here.
1. We killed the warboss: Fairly obvious from his corpse and also we're known to have previously killed a warboss.
2. Destroying the Idol: The idol itself is fairly obvious although depending on the Dwarf's detection abilities they'll likely have to just take our word on how important it is.
3. Believing we hurt Mork: We have evidence in that the greenskins went wild and Mork started furiously attacking the orcs.
Basically we have good evidence proving everything we did, did in fact happen. Additionally not doing so would have meant that the Greenskin ritual would have gone off which would presumably have been much worse than it failing and back-lashing on the orcs. If anything preventing dangerous orc rituals that the Dwarfs weren't aware of should increase their confidence in Mathilde.
Kragg is unlikely to ask about trade secrets. (If he does it might be fun to look at him with dwarfy disapproval, it would be a bad idea but very amusing irony (seriously a bad idea, don't take this seriously)).
This is true enough. Although everyone already knows that Mathilde isn't going to let the forces of destruction go around performing rituals unopposed so this is hardly going to change the way people view her.
Ultimately the mess was that greenskins exist and Mathilde simply prevented the mess spontaneously turning into a bomb under everyone's feet. Mathilde didn't create the mess she found and dealt with an existing mess (although as a side effect it made a smaller mess but it's still an obvious positive improvement).
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Unfortunately Mathilde doesn't have time for this, and I don't think we have a drill sergeant on hand to hand the job over to.
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[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
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- somewhere over there.
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That just mean that somewhere a grizzled old Witch Hunter would be going "I told you! I told you all! Those damn orcs are wily bastards; look how long they had us thinking they couldn't do this! Who knows how many have fallen under the Twin Gods' spell while you doubted me!?"
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Plenty of genius, not enough sense.
[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] Taking Kvinn-Wyr would mean we have every Karag flanking the Eastern Valley.
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] Taking Kvinn-Wyr would mean we have every Karag flanking the Eastern Valley.
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
[X] The death of the Warboss and the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol.
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
Why the sudden huge push to deny the War Council important strategic information? This is the kind of thing that they need to know, as it could very easily have wider effects that we're completely aware of but they're in a much better position to make judgements on. For example, the dwarves may be aware of previous incidents where they or the elves back when they were allied hurt the orc gods, so might be aware of the longer term implications we're not.
They're also well placed to know who they might need to tell to further exploit this if such a thing is possible.
They're also well placed to know who they might need to tell to further exploit this if such a thing is possible.
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The Citadel as I understand it, with dwarf artillery has vantage and line of sight to the entire interior portion of the peaks.
Codrin's not so bad as people think, at least judging by what he told us. He wants to keep the decent people (including decent adventurers) alive at the expense of people with poor impulse control (including more greedy stirlanders). His definition of decent is rather narrow, though.
We don't even need spooky stories: we saw a Magister explode and burn down a city block with our own eyes.
A decent person indeed.
Not very heroic though. We also never investigated to tell whether he was as discriminating as you hope he would be.
That doesn't mean it has the range. Ten thousand halflings are planning to settle the caldera, and even if they're good at farming, with renaissance techniques it has to be pretty big to be able to support them and the dwarves living in the mountains.
DocMatoi
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fuck it
[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol, and the weakening of Mork and strengthening of Ranald.
[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol, and the weakening of Mork.
[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol, and the weakening of Mork and strengthening of Ranald.
[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol, and the weakening of Mork.
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This. Very much this. I'd love to see Mat tell that story. How even Magisters can kill themselves and everyone around them with a miscast.
Lazurman
This is fine.
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[X] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol, and the weakening of Mork.
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
[X] You'd have done the same once. Tell her you understand, but treat her to a lecture on the risks and dangers of miscasts.
[X] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
I from what I have seen people just do not trust the dwarfs not to react badly to our 'dangerous manling magics' and melding with gods.
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- Somewhere, probably Earth
[x] The death of the Warboss, the shattering of an Almost-Rogue Idol, and the weakening of Mork.
[x] This is a matter between Wizards, and while you're not of the Jade Order and cannot directly punish her, etiquette dictates that you report this matter to them.
-[x] Under no circumstances should an exhausted wizard take the field of battle. A warrior who takes the field when not properly rested is at risk of getting themselves killed. A wizard, especially one who has yet to earn their place as a Magister, is at risk of killing anyone near them from a single unfortunate miscast. What she did in the name of pride was insolent and irresponsible, when she would have been of far more help saving her strength to deal with casualties after the battle.
[x] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
[x] This is a matter between Wizards, and while you're not of the Jade Order and cannot directly punish her, etiquette dictates that you report this matter to them.
-[x] Under no circumstances should an exhausted wizard take the field of battle. A warrior who takes the field when not properly rested is at risk of getting themselves killed. A wizard, especially one who has yet to earn their place as a Magister, is at risk of killing anyone near them from a single unfortunate miscast. What she did in the name of pride was insolent and irresponsible, when she would have been of far more help saving her strength to deal with casualties after the battle.
[x] The residents are weakened, taking the Citadel is now a possibility.
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- somewhere over there.
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- They/It
I think she'd be more amenable to training with the Halfling troops. This has the double benefit of not needing our constant attention, and the Halflings almost certainly being pretty good at taking people completely unaccustomed to combat and making them into badasses. It also means she gets to learn to be sneaky, just like her idol, and gets mundane weapon training so she can have options when she's exhausted outside of "sit there and hope nothing goes wrong".