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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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[X] Goldfish
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Well, if she's sworn oath of fealty, taking out the person sworn to ends the oath. Which is nothing new.
One Autumn Leaf said:
...ahh skirting in treason then. Also Lya may need to get better at runecraft because that way lies god slaying guys.
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She gave us something self-evident - a vassal cannot swear to the enemy of his liege as long as the liege lives.
 
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So looking up Ymeri it turns out then we just need to kill her twice in the span of a year. If we do that she is dead forever...that is something I find greatly amusing tbh.
 
One Autumn Leaf said:
So looking up Ymeri it turns out then we just need to kill her twice in the span of a year. If we do that she is dead forever...that is something I find greatly amusing tbh.
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Problem being, she can hide in Feywild and then we can do fuck-all about it.
Those CR 25 Fey-whales left an impression on me, yes.

Yss is still our best bet at perma-kills, be it 15th, or Ymei.

Ymeri is certainly not a priority for a while, unless she starts actively acting against us on massive scale.

Hmm...
Tiamat --> Asmodeus Cult --> Deep Ones --> Brass Ballsack and his Fiendish Friends --> 15th --> Others --> ??

Seems like the threat priority we have now.

Lollth, Ymeri, Mammon, Sseth, CoS, Warlocks of Quarth, Quohor's Gods, etc. all fit somewhere between "BB&FF" and 15th. Imo.
 
egoo said:
Problem being, she can hide in Feywild and then we can do fuck-all about it.
Those CR 25 Fey-whales left an impression on me, yes.

Yss is still our best bet at perma-kills, be it 15th, or Ymei.

Ymeri is certainly not a priority for a while, unless she starts actively acting against us on massive scale.

Hmm...
Tiamat --> Asmodeus Cult --> Deep Ones --> Brass Ballsack and his Fiendish Friends --> 15th --> Others --> ??

Seems like the threat priority we have now.

Lollth, Ymeri, Mammon, Sseth, CoS, Warlocks of Quarth, Quohor's Gods, etc. all fit somewhere between "BB&FF" and 15th. Imo.
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always nice to see such lists and then notice that Lannister/Baratheon fall under etc...
 
LightLan said:
always nice to see such lists and then notice that Lannister/Baratheon fall under etc...
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Bobby is not a danger, however one turns it around.
Even as a 10+ PC of a warrior (probably with some neat PRC due to Storm King's blood), he's not a danger even with Lannister-wrought gear.

Richard can definitely shank everyone on his way through the throne room, and then Bob himself nowadays, solo at that.

Lannisters...
Lanna is but one witch (albeit bullshit at that), and her husband is but one swordsman.
Sure, they will have great gear, and lots of mercenaries (pros of being rich as shit)- but so long as we cut them off quickly enough at the start of the war, they won't be much of a problem.

CoS are much more of a danger for reconquest, for one.
Faith is moreso.

Those mere 2 dragons they are growing in time-chamber aren't even worth considering with our aerial force's growth, imo.


I just hope thread doesn't let the "but she's a good guy!"-feelings get to it when the time comes for an opening move, she has to die if we don't want lots of our people to die to her :/

Oh, and I suppose Lannisters have lots of wands.
Cute.
 
egoo said:
I just hope thread doesn't let the "but she's a good guy!"-feelings get to it when the time comes for an opening move, she has to die if we don't want lots of our people to die to her :/
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I'd like to make a sweeping proclamation vaguely angled towards her in particular of something like 'Surrender and accept the Imperium/Flee the Prime Material or Die' but that's pretty much the extent of any mercy. At the onset of the conquest.

Because 1) People fight rather more hesitantly against overwhelming threats when said overwhelming threat has told them they could just.. don't, 2) Makes us seem more reasonable to other would-be defectors instead of what the propaganda says, 3) Can actually make trouble for us, just teleporting about under mindblank and nuking our minions and 4) She's shiny - want that class of hers. (The husbando I do not care much about, though suppose they come as a set piece.)
 
We already intend to kill her. This seems to be a no brainer. Especially as she has not specified a "when" or a time limit.
 
@Goldfish, mind adding giving her a warning off trying to work against us?

I think we have reputation/legend to leverage insofar as to make her at least spend longer doing Ymeri's potential bidding, scared for her safety.

We won't pull any punches on a mere promise of potential servitude.
 
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One Autumn Leaf said:
So I have a question @DragonParadox. All of the imprisoned Elemental Lords are "Good" aligned. How does that effect our allies? Have they already dealt with that or is that still a problem?
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The imprisoned Elemental Lords are not part of the lore in ASWAH, the good/evil duality there never made much sense to me. Ymeri is not one of a set of 8 lords she is a god-like fey that dwells of the plane of fire.
 
[X] Goldfish

@DragonParadox

"She who casts stones and glass houses, am I right? I may have a reputation as a meddler and a merchant, but they never complain when it's me killing the monsters."

Muse: "So kill my monster for me."

"My Lady... that was refreshingly direct."
 
egoo said:
Bobby is not a danger, however one turns it around.
Even as a 10+ PC of a warrior (probably with some neat PRC due to Storm King's blood), he's not a danger even with Lannister-wrought gear.

Richard can definitely shank everyone on his way through the throne room, and then Bob himself nowadays, solo at that.

Lannisters...
Lanna is but one witch (albeit bullshit at that), and her husband is but one swordsman.
Sure, they will have great gear, and lots of mercenaries (pros of being rich as shit)- but so long as we cut them off quickly enough at the start of the war, they won't be much of a problem.

CoS are much more of a danger for reconquest, for one.
Faith is moreso.

Those mere 2 dragons they are growing in time-chamber aren't even worth considering with our aerial force's growth, imo.


I just hope thread doesn't let the "but she's a good guy!"-feelings get to it when the time comes for an opening move, she has to die if we don't want lots of our people to die to her :/

Oh, and I suppose Lannisters have lots of wands.
Cute.
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I wonder if should make a "Robert is training" meme.

While we are busy developing a new economic system for our lands.
Robert is training.
While Lanna is trying to convince Tywin to not burn babies for power.
Robert is training.
While Lucan enacts a ritual to resurrect yet another angelic failure.
Robert is training.

Enter CR 20+ Stormking Hammerbringer.

Crake said:
[X] Goldfish

@DragonParadox

"She who casts stones and glass houses, am I right? I may have a reputation as a meddler and a merchant, but they never complain when it's me killing the monsters."

Muse: "So kill my monster for me."

"My Lady... that was refreshingly direct."
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We should offer her tea and ask if she wants to reject our temptations a while longer.
 
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egoo said:
I just hope thread doesn't let the "but she's a good guy!"-feelings get to it when the time comes for an opening move, she has to die if we don't want lots of our people to die to her :/
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I'd vote to diplomance. Not because I think she's a good guy, or cause I want to "save everyone" like some kind of superhero. But because I think it's more interesting.

We know we can crush them. But the uncertain things, I want to see what happens. I want to see the whole rug pulled out from under Tywin. That is interesting.
 
superguy2876 said:
I'd vote to diplomance. Not because I think she's a good guy, or cause I want to "save everyone" like some kind of superhero. But because I think it's more interesting.

We know we can crush them. But the uncertain things, I want to see what happens. I want to see the whole rug pulled out from under Tywin. That is interesting.
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I am of the opposite opinion. We recruit so many people that I am somewhat tired fo it and just want once to not try. In all frankness I would be okay with just fighting her and figuring out recruiting from beyond the grave. I will not abandon an advantage just to try recruitment. Fuck that. If it comes to it she can either be recruited after or she can stay dead.
 
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