She is playing rocket tag and this is the only encounter she has to win, the odds of her spending all her eight level slots are remote.
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She is playing rocket tag and this is the only encounter she has to win, the odds of her spending all her eight level slots are remote.
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It was a kinda weird decision.
I mean, generally laudable that she wants to keep the boy safe, but this was propably not the most efficient way to do it.
I mean, generally laudable that she wants to keep the boy safe, but this was propably not the most efficient way to do it.
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She has what, 3 plus Domain-spell for level 8?
At the rate she can blast them out it doesn't seem that unlikely.
egoo
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Pics don't show for me :/
[X] Goldfish
Sacrifices! Yay?
Either way, @Goldfish, could we run a Divination if these are beign watched by someone else?
That "The coloration suggests Tiamat"-comment really got me thinking that these might be test subjects of sorts, what with somewhat weird behavior they exhibit.
[X] Goldfish
Sacrifices! Yay?
Either way, @Goldfish, could we run a Divination if these are beign watched by someone else?
That "The coloration suggests Tiamat"-comment really got me thinking that these might be test subjects of sorts, what with somewhat weird behavior they exhibit.
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She could replace an Undead Leutnant or two the Misfits killed so far.
Maybe if she cast nothing but 8th level spells. Ultimately i just felt right for the flow of the narrative that she would entrust his soul to R'hllor in the most direct manner she could.
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That would be highly unfortunate. I really hope she does well.
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OOc I would like it.
It means we get to fight Mel seriously, something I wanted since DP first mentioned her ages ago, in Volantis.
We get to Rezz her because making her Undead means he can't also permakill her.
She fucking owes us a lot and her faith could be shaken in just one stroke.
egoo
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Hey, if she dies, she'll at least learn not to try doing everything by herself
Also, more loyalty to us when we come and free her
(we have de-lich'ing ritual, de-vampie'ing ritual, a book on "how not to be an asshole Undead"... we have our ways
)EDIT: partial Artemis'ation
Yes 'drove a child to suicide' is a hell of a circumstantial penalty, even if Mel really does not see it like that.
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It would be far easier than that, since she wouldn't be dead for nearly as long as the people we needed rituals for.(we have de-lich'ing ritual, de-vampie'ing ritual, a book on "how not to be an asshole Undead"... we have our ways
Simple Resurrection would work, though only after the resulting undead is killed.
egoo
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TBH, I'd kinda dig her remaining Undead.
Too bad R'hlor wouldn't apprecaite that...
Concept Clerics ftw!
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It's way more trouble than it's worth for it to happen this way. If she dies, not only do we have to interrupt our adventuring actions to salvage the situation, but the Misfits will be caught at the mercy of a victorious Harren the Black.Hey, if she dies, she'll at least learn not to try doing everything by herself
Also, more loyalty to us when we come and free her
(we have de-lich'ing ritual, de-vampie'ing ritual, a book on "how not to be an asshole Undead"... we have our ways
EDIT: partial Artemis'ation
Now I understand both of you simply not giving a damn about the consequences of Melisandre dying, but I definitely do.
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Unless I judge her very wrongly, I suspect an undead Mel vould propably go straight Ur-Priest.TBH, I'd kinda dig her remaining Undead.
Too bad R'hlor wouldn't apprecaite that...
Concept Clerics ftw!
Edit: Well, for a few levels, then into her Shadowcaster/Divine Caster hybrid.
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egoo
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It's not that I don't care about the consequences, it's just that I'd like to see R'hlor left without his main/best priest more
...Also neatly pruning some of Melisande's fanaticism along the way, yes.
Also, I don't consider Harrenhall much of a danger to our main party (or, well, any of 3-4 we can make up at any moment), undead Melisande Harren and Misfits, or not.
We have enough resurrecting capabilities and firepower to outdo everything beyond soul-death, and the latter is... somewhat unlikely for Harren (now left utterly minion-less).
But whatever, I don't think they'll lose there, anyway.
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Definitely not. If she is unfortunate enough to die and come back as an undead, we're bringing her back to life.TBH, I'd kinda dig her remaining Undead.
Too bad R'hlor wouldn't apprecaite that...
Concept Clerics ftw!
For all that you say you want a heretic!Melisandre, you're not putting any consideration in how to get there. If she's undead and we deliberately don't bring her back to life (and when it's pretty well established that the normal brand of undead is a suicidal mess to the point that even Liches seek to return to life), we just prove that we're not worth following, and thus we push her right back towards R'hllor instead of gently nudging her towards the conclusion that R'hllor isn't the only god.
That's a textbook example of not giving a damn about the consequences. You want Melisandre's fall enough that you're willing to dismiss how bad the fallout would be. This is the height of Chaotic inefficiency.It's not that I don't care about the consequences, it's jsut that I'd like to see R'hlor left without his best priest more
This isn't about it being a danger to the Companions, and this isn't about being unable to bring people back to life.
Not only would everyone dying mean a level loss across the board, but it would actively interrupt our adventuring in Sothoryos because we'd be called to deal with Harrenhal immediately.
One more thing you guys might like to consider is that death and whatever horrors Haren would inflict afterwards might just cause people to break down, they might not want to be resurected, or they might not want to be adventurers. Do not underestimate the mental toll something like that would take.
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You propably shouldn't become an adventurer in the first place if you can't handle Death, Undeath, second Death and Resurrection?
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Or maybe we should acknowledge that actively having your soul tortured isn't something most people will just shrug off?
That's a little like saying you should not be a soldier if you can't handle PTSD.
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Sure, most people.
Mel better does.
I fully agree with that statement.
If the countries of our world would agree too we would propably have a more peaceful world?
Maybe, but the thing is you do not know how you will react to PTSD until you suffer from it, same principle here.
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Mel, maybe. Even so, that is something you just don't shrug off like you're implying. You're completely dismissing the mental and spiritual toll that would take, even on a powerful PC.
Also Mel isn't the only one here. The Misfits and Thoros are there as well, and they'd be equally at risk if Melisandre falls.