[X]Crake

See what happens and then decide if we should speak up or get our friends to do stuff in the background basically?
 
[X]Crake

See what happens and then decide if we should speak up or get our friends to do stuff in the background basically?

Basically if the Anti-Fey faction starts to gain momentum, we are supposed to back up Kyle or diffuse tensions. If it looks like Kyle is gaining traction we decide mid-motion about what avenue to take to interfere without making it obvious that we are working against Kyle's interests, who is our "patron" so to speak. He can rescind our access as easily as grant it. We should only and obviously act against his interests in the moment where it would do the most damage, or we have no alternatives.

Not to say we have to toadie up to him, we can be quite subtle and still interfere, but there's nothing we can do right out the gate here.
 
Ah, if we had a non Dywden high-social party memeber here, they could have the freedom to speak and argue in favour of actual virtuous thingys like "fey aren't inherently monsters" and ask the right questions to prevent fear and promote understanding (and I mean promote proper understanding, because the fey are not inherently awful (except the awful ones), but they are frequently dangerous, living stories tend to be imo)).

@DragonParadox - is there in-crowd muttering going on (we can use as a cover for message-whispers) or is it respectful silence?

[] Playing our hand here is not useful, but care must be taken that the Tyrell's attempt to portray the Court Of Stars in a positive light not cause the septons ignorant of the truth of their nature get the wrong idea, and have further harm come from it (apart from the harm we intend, at least).
-[] Silent Still Message :: d20srd.org and whisper questions to the appropriate groups of septons to prompt them to ask the fey questions that poke needed holes in the inevitable deceptions.
-[add in?] See if the whole Court of Stars story-land plan can be brought to light by this, unless that goes too far against the "splintering of the faith" plan.

[Edit: so, 3-4 people hear the question, but it's vague where it came from, and then they ask because it sounds like something worth asking to them)
Sorry for vagueness, but this is basically "Viserys thinks on his feet", because while I do feel this is not time for Dwyden to speak, I do want to mitigate the long term damage caused by the Tyrell's attempt to make the Reach a story-land.

*Catches up*

@Crake anything in my vote of use? Or is risking casting a bad idea in general thread's opinion? This is a level 0 spell, with a spell providing one metamagic +1 and an item providing another +1. I think Viserys is warded well enough to get away with it.
 
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Ah, if we had a non Dywden high-social party memeber here, they could have the freedom to speak and argue in favour of actual virtuous thingys like "fey aren't inherently monsters" and ask the right questions to prevent fear and promote understanding (and I mean promote proper understanding, because the fey are not inherently awful (except the awful ones), but they are frequently dangerous, living stories tend to be imo)).

@DragonParadox - is there in-crowd muttering going on (we can use as a cover for message-whispers) or is it respectful silence?

[X] Playing our hand here is not useful, but care must be taken that the Tyrell's attempt to portray the Court Of Stars in a positive light not cause the septons ignorant of the truth of their nature get the wrong idea, and have further harm come from it (apart from the harm we intend, at least).
-[X] Silent Still Message :: d20srd.org and whisper questions to the appropriate groups of septons to prompt them to ask the fey questions that poke needed holes in the inevitable deceptions.
-[add in?] See if the whole Court of Stars story-land plan can be brought to light by this, unless that goes too far against the "splintering of the faith" plan.

[Edit: so, 3-4 people hear the question, but it's vague where it came from, and then they ask because it sounds like something worth asking to them)
Sorry for vagueness, but this is basically "Viserys thinks on his feet", because while I do feel this is not time for Dwyden to speak, I do want to mitigate the long term damage caused by the Tyrell's attempt to make the Reach a story-land.

*Catches up*

@Crake anything in my vote of use? Or is risking casting a bad idea in general thread's opinion? This is a level 0 spell, with a spell providing one metamagic +1 and an item providing another +1. I think Viserys is warded well enough to get away with it.
I think now would be a bad idea to use magic. Guaranteed to be someone watching for it.
 
[X] Kyle has yet to make much headway towards a majority, but he's also gauged the waters beforehand more likely than not, so speakers will be cautious of their fiery rhetoric now that the Fey are actually right in front of them. See how this plays out rather than acting against Kyle's expectations, after all, Dywen is someone who would welcome peace between both races. If you must interfere in this, it will be through proxies or as yourself.
 
No active spellcasting. We activated spells outside of the Sept for a reason, so we could communicate our intent to Dany.
 
There's a function to measure that?

Not as such, just "read ALL thread" with allowances for potential errors. I did burn out on reading the in-thread stuff a bit last year for a week and have no idea when it was, and I have no intention of reading the entire 12303 pages just to get that bit again. :/

I wish I made a note of when I stopped back then, so I could bump it to 99.5% :p (human error is still a thing).
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Fair enough @Goldfish (@Crake), I was thinking it might be a bit risky, but hoping we would get away with it. Pity we didn't bring Tyene in with us for this. Ah well, hindsight.

*Shrugs*

[X] Crake
 
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Not a lot of discussion, which I had been concerned about, but unfortunately I don't think an interlude would work with the flow of the story.

Is there anything else you guys would like to see?
 
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Right now all they did was ask to trade with fey and from there it will escalate. If the string gets cut here then expect Kyle's plans to fall apart.

Not a lot of discussion, which I had been concerned about, but unfortunately I don't think an interlude would work with the flow of the story.

Is there anything else you guys would like to see?


I wouldn't mind seeing more of Riverland and its dungeons/horrors. We have two more?
 
Right now all they did was ask to trade with fey and from there it will escalate. If the string gets cut here then expect Kyle's plans to fall apart.




I wouldn't mind seeing more of Riverland and its dungeons/horrors. We have two more?

We're not voting to skip past this vote, we're voting to see initial reactions. There's no way the Anti-Fey crowd won't be making some probes against Kyle's motion at the very least.

If the reaction is tepid, we might have to reevaluate our approach here, but I honestly expect having to support Kyle initially, only to withdraw that support later on at a critical juncture when he comes to rely upon us.
 
We're not voting to skip past this vote, we're voting to see initial reactions. There's no way the Anti-Fey crowd won't be making some probes against Kyle's motion at the very least.

If the reaction is tepid, we might have to reevaluate our approach here, but I honestly expect having to support Kyle initially, only to withdraw that support later on at a critical juncture when he comes to rely upon us.
I know that is what we are voting for. I am just saying that if this vote doesn't go through then his plans fall apart. If you cant trust the fey with trade of all things then marriage is out of the question.
 
Not a lot of discussion, which I had been concerned about, but unfortunately I don't think an interlude would work with the flow of the story.

Is there anything else you guys would like to see?
I think we're pretty well settled on a certain course of action. At this point, there's not much for us to do beyond gather info, poke at the factions without giving ourselves away, and wait for a golden opportunity to manipulate the Conclave to our advantage. That doesn't really leave a lot of room for discussion, beyond speculation on possible reactions among the gathered clergy.

/fingers crossed for fireworks
 
Not a lot of discussion, which I had been concerned about, but unfortunately I don't think an interlude would work with the flow of the story.

Is there anything else you guys would like to see?
I was hoping for some rumor posts when you've got the time. Not necessarily about us this time, just the general state of Westeros.
 
So I'm seeing a lot of interest in Wnterfell (Jon Snow in particular). Normally I would go with a Riverlander interlude instead but it is again late with a lot of rolls to do so what I'm tempted to do is do a Winterfell interlude now and when I get back to the Riverlands put in links to the previous parts of those stories.

Does that sound like it could work?
 
So I'm seeing a lot of interest in Wnterfell (Jon Snow in particular). Normally I would go with a Riverlander interlude instead but it is again late with a lot of rolls to do so what I'm tempted to do is do a Winterfell interlude now and when I get back to the Riverlands put in links to the previous parts of those stories.

Does that sound like it could work?

Yeah.
 
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