A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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- United States
Yes. If we contact them as Viserys now then that places us squarely in Oldtown and makes future subterfuge quite a bit harder.
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- Germany
Not really. There's a difference between contacting someone and announcing our presence from the rooftops.
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- Germany
[X] Snowfire
That inherently means he has power that is useful in combat.
In this world you can't be a Cleric or Druid and a civilian non-combatant.
And he doesn't have to be a hero to oppose demons, just a sane man. Even people like Leila could see that, and she is for sure no born adventurer.
He is a priest, we have already shown he has magic.
That inherently means he has power that is useful in combat.
In this world you can't be a Cleric or Druid and a civilian non-combatant.
And he doesn't have to be a hero to oppose demons, just a sane man. Even people like Leila could see that, and she is for sure no born adventurer.
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- Germany
Okay, so you can be a Useless NPC or a Heroic PC and nothing in between is permissible?
Frankly, I liked Leila a lot more before she got the great resolution to become a vaguely hero shaped assortment of class-levels just like everyone else.
Goldfish
Friendly Spider-Fish Abomination
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- Formerly of the Far Realm
Being able to throw down doesn't mean you have to look for opportunities to do so. Having power and not being able to make use of it for combat is just an invitation to be taken advantage of, especially on Planetos.
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- Brazil
Except no one has to know, except our contact point. We can show up as "foreign eastern mage that hates these guys", vouched by the Lantern Bearer we already know.
Problem solved.
We can use a disposable, random disguise when the fighting happens. We are much better for "generic sorcerer" than "old cleric" anyway. LBs aren't ignoramus, it takes one Spellcraft check to say "hold on, that's not a divine spell!".
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By this point isn't any Eastern mage assumed to be affiliated with the Imperium? Unless they come from really far away... It's even worse for a follower of the Old Gods anybody in Westeros that doesn't automatically connect them to us would be brain damaged since we did grow some really huge trees.
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- Germany
Might as well go the full mile and say that their cult burned down the mages home-town abd killed 1d4 close relatives abd childhood friends in the process.
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- Germany
You don't have to be heroic.
But you will always have the potential for it, if you are a PC.
And not using that potential in the face of demons that are a direct threat to his cause would make Dywen a rather poor priest.
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- Germany
That's not really addressing my point. My point is that Dywen shouldn't end up as another forgettable clone PC that got super-powers and now fights Evil.
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- United States
Nope. There are whispers of Volantis having some kind of agreement with us, but people are mainly just hoping that they fight us. We could easily pose as someone from Slaver's Bay, Qarth, Yi Ti, etc. The Imperium is large, but it's not continent-spanning quite yet.
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- Brazil
Not really, Essos is a big place.
And, ultimately, it doesn't matter. We can disguise as whatever the hell we want during the fight.
Funnily ednough, people can never prove it was us, but they also can't prove is wasn't us, by virtue of Mindblank and the fact that we are well known to teleport.
So a convoluted scheme involving religious figures when this is a simple inquisition raid is just asking for trouble as people ask more questions.
Anybody have any idea on a plan to provoke the two factions into fighting very publicly so as to weaken the perception of the faith before the conclave, if not prevent it from happening altogether? Because I seem to remember that the plan was to have multiple faith for the kingdoms.
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- florida
I really appreciate how we've worked to make that the standard response to "develop super powers".
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- Germany
That's exactly what I said:
Frankly, whatever then. I can't bring myself to care about the vague feuding between vague doomsday-ish thingies either way. I merely would have liked to keep at least one recurring persona away from the same boring mold everyone else needs to be pressed into.
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- Brazil
What factions? The LB and Faith?
I'd rather not, we like the LB.
And they aren't stupid. They know the Faith wouldn't desecrate their own temple in the name of another goddess.
The Old Gods don't even do true non-combatants, as far as we know. Nor should they, the idea of giving someone that much power and then having them not even use it where it is most needed in this massive free-for-all for the Prime Material is laughable. If Dywen was just a talker he wouldn't have high level spells, they'd be given to someone who was willing to do both talking and fighting.
Mind, us deciding to be a sorcerer because we're better at being a sorcerer in combat is a more valid argument to incline me towards voting that.
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- Germany
And I'm not seeing your point.
Everyone sane, with the power and knowledge to do so, opposes daemons and demons.
That does not make all these countless different characters the same, just like all of them breathing doesn't make them the same.
Crake
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
- Location
- USA
I don't really have any horse in this race, but it would probably be easier to either reach out to our contact as Viserys, or just create a new persona. Dywen has been used to talk so far. That's it. He is going to continue being used, even this month, to use words at people.
A marked advantage in all interactions we've had using him is people just assume he's some begging brother. And then they listen. Because there's no reason to distrust the poor pious preacher/virtuous holy man out of hand, and before anyone can regret letting him open his mouth and sway an audience to his point of view, they don't really have any easy ammunition to throw his way and are basically forced to actually debate his point fairly (an impossible thing to win), rather than argue in bad faith like some kind of Fey Noble.
A marked advantage in all interactions we've had using him is people just assume he's some begging brother. And then they listen. Because there's no reason to distrust the poor pious preacher/virtuous holy man out of hand, and before anyone can regret letting him open his mouth and sway an audience to his point of view, they don't really have any easy ammunition to throw his way and are basically forced to actually debate his point fairly (an impossible thing to win), rather than argue in bad faith like some kind of Fey Noble.
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- Brazil
Look, this doesn't have to be complicated:
[X] Contact the Lantern Bearers
-[X] Look for the one you met, he seemed reasonable enough. Do Mindblank him before you reveal any critical information, however.
-[X] Do reveal to him the situation as you know it, that an enemy of yours seeks to besmirch your name and, on the way of foiling then, you've discovered their operations run far deeper than you've previously thought, and you've and stumbled upon a Deep One infiltration literally next-door on top of that. Ask about his plans and any knowledge he has on the GC/Tia-chan's demons, and the Deep Ones house.
Guess who is exponentially better placed to dig up the Deep One's movements in these last months? The spy network that operates in this very town.
[X] Contact the Lantern Bearers
-[X] Look for the one you met, he seemed reasonable enough. Do Mindblank him before you reveal any critical information, however.
-[X] Do reveal to him the situation as you know it, that an enemy of yours seeks to besmirch your name and, on the way of foiling then, you've discovered their operations run far deeper than you've previously thought, and you've and stumbled upon a Deep One infiltration literally next-door on top of that. Ask about his plans and any knowledge he has on the GC/Tia-chan's demons, and the Deep Ones house.
Guess who is exponentially better placed to dig up the Deep One's movements in these last months? The spy network that operates in this very town.
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- Germany
And I'm disgusted by it since it wears away the actual character of people and robs their stories of all meaning.