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Yeah, but then "then wait five minutes" means different things IC and OOC.
24:60:60 is deeply intuitive at this point, for everyone.
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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24:60:60 is deeply intuitive at this point, for everyone.
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... How? If spells durations don't change (and I can't see why us making clocks would change the laws of the universe) you'll end up with a lot of spells having weird lengths of time. Whereas if you keep the 24 hour clock all the times come out to nice even units.
All intervals of time are arbitrary to an extent, at least using spells lengths (which are an observable constant) to calibrate stuff makes it easy to correct any confusion.
I would simply write them out in ordinary increments and the change to the local system will be a matter of translation convention unless it is somehow relevant to the action
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That at some point, that stupid 24 hour system will be dropped in favor of sensible decimal timekeeping.
Take it from someone that is working with time when writing software and had brushes with it in academic contexts and let me tell you that decimal time works significantly better. There is no logical reason for 60, except cultural inertia. Which Planetos lacks.
Goldfish
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Sorry, dude, but I don't see the advantage.
Planetos runs on D&D time for all intents and purposes, which is the good ole 24:60:60 scale.
It's how a lot of magic is measured, too, so it may as well be one of the underpinnings of reality.
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But that is an extra superfluous step, and it makes things harder to track in universe. It means that spellcasters in universe suddenly have to track thier spells in odd units.
That and the fact that the fundamental laws of the universe on planetos are written with a 24 hour clock in mind.
Not quite. While the 24 hour day is indeed enshrined most people do not care about minutes or seconds. At most they measure small increments of time in heartbeats... with predictable results.
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Random client: The meeting is at six.
St: So that would be when for me?
Random client: Six?
St: *barely contained howl of pure rage and frustration*
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I'm not seeing any reason to cause an extra step of detail when our spells all work on minutes/hours. Especially when you'd be redefining what an hour meant vs the D&D hour. Just seems pointless complexity to me.
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The people might not, but the rules do. Example: with the decimal system, How long does mage armor last if cast by a wizard who just got 3rd circle spells?
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If we're basing our time on spell durations, shouldn't we also include intervals of 6 seconds?
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Every Azel vote with "Germany" as a location is looking funnier by the post
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Handily, that's tenths of minute.
So everyone gets their wishes!
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Just for the record, I've also got @Duesal and he is from the country that still measures distances in multiples of the foot of some long dead king.Every Azel vote with "Germany" as a location is looking funnier by the post
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[X] Goldfish
I get that the 24 hour system might not be the most efficient thing ever, but it seems like a big change both for the people and for the players to get used to for a benefit I don't really get. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I get that the 24 hour system might not be the most efficient thing ever, but it seems like a big change both for the people and for the players to get used to for a benefit I don't really get. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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[X] Plan Doing Proper Time - Compromise
-[X] Divide the day in two ways, one astronomical and one decimal, like Yi-Ti does.
--[X] Astronomical: 24 hours, 60 minutes, 60 seconds
--[X] Decimal: Divide the day into 10 hours, each hour into 100 minutes and every minute into 100 seconds.
-[X] The time of 0 is defined as the sun standing in it's zenith above Sorcerers Deep in both countings. Commission a sun dial that will be set in the University Square to measure that exact time.
-[X] Commission clock-towers for SD, Tyrosh, Lys, Myr, Mantarys and Tolos who all display the time for everyone to see.
-[X] There will be no time-zones or similar shenanigans, so that nobody has to do any conversion for long-distance communications or trade.
-[X] Fund a group of engineers, mathematicians, and mages to conduct research into lowering the cost of time keeping instruments to make them more affordable, with both magic and mundane solutions being explored.
@Goldfish, can we agree on having both and the player being perfectly and absolutely capable of ignoring the decimal version?
China was using this for literal millennia, so I don't see why we shouldn't do the same.
-[X] Divide the day in two ways, one astronomical and one decimal, like Yi-Ti does.
--[X] Astronomical: 24 hours, 60 minutes, 60 seconds
--[X] Decimal: Divide the day into 10 hours, each hour into 100 minutes and every minute into 100 seconds.
-[X] The time of 0 is defined as the sun standing in it's zenith above Sorcerers Deep in both countings. Commission a sun dial that will be set in the University Square to measure that exact time.
-[X] Commission clock-towers for SD, Tyrosh, Lys, Myr, Mantarys and Tolos who all display the time for everyone to see.
-[X] There will be no time-zones or similar shenanigans, so that nobody has to do any conversion for long-distance communications or trade.
-[X] Fund a group of engineers, mathematicians, and mages to conduct research into lowering the cost of time keeping instruments to make them more affordable, with both magic and mundane solutions being explored.
@Goldfish, can we agree on having both and the player being perfectly and absolutely capable of ignoring the decimal version?
China was using this for literal millennia, so I don't see why we shouldn't do the same.
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It doesn't look as if the idea will win without a compromise.
Also, @TotallyNotEvil, I've got the frenchy too. Didn't even need coercion for once.