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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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[X] Dang a Contesting Plan
-[X] The world spins on injustice, suffering and cruelty. You can kill monsters and terrors for eons unending and having not changed a thing but yourself, it is on us to survive and strife. It is on us to build a better world, a world that has no need for the Tywins and Mountains.

(DP feel free to swtich stuff around if the miracle of this winning happens. I really wanted to start with Mr. Clegane.. but that sounds just silly)
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Feb 24, 2019 at 2:08 PM, finished with 79 posts and 13 votes.
  • [X] Plan Sledgehammer Strike
    -[X] "I see. So that's why you call yourself the Hound. You've decided that being a beast on Tywins leash like him would be better then being powerless." // Which is 100% true and will 110% result with him attacking us, but we need to make a dent in his armor before we can go any further.
    -[X] You have DR 10/Silver and AC 42. Block the strike with your arm and trust your AC and DR to negate all damage. Otherwise use Wings of Cover.
    -[X] Motion for Dany and Leto to do nothing.
    -[X] "Wrath and fear make for poor blades Sandor, but they make fine chains to bind us with. Should you ever tire of them, you know where to find me. Until then, I wish you the best of luck in the tourney and beyond."
    -[X] Should he bring up loss or similar themes: "I lost a brother to Roberts hammer, a sister in law raped by Gregor, then slain together with my niece and nephew, and my mother dead in childbed, he strength barely enough to save my sister after all the horror that came before. Do not mistake patience for forgiveness Hound. The Lannisters always pay their debts after all and the crows won't mind them either."
    [X] Dang a Contesting Plan
    -[X] The world spins on injustice, suffering and cruelty. You can kill monsters and terrors for eons unending and having not changed a thing but yourself, it is on us to survive and strife. It is on us to build a better world, a world that has no need for the Tywins and Mountains.
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DragonParadox said:
"And who would have dragged him before the hangman, eh?"
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The Inquisition probably. Since they regularly hunt fiends and fae they would probably consider a regular human to be quite relaxing.

Also the regular gaurdsman were rogues. They're surprising him with a few dozen crossbows.

DragonParadox said:
"Good news," the golden-haired witch said with vicious cheer. "This thing just admitted to killing hundreds of people, that means we can skip judging and get right to sentencing in the name of the King's Justice."
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I never got why people claimed lawful good stopped you from killing things.

Self defence is so easy after all... :V

DragonParadox said:
Tyene managed to salvage things. She was just planning to keep her from a depression spiral but what Leila took away from all this is that she should get stronger so she can help.
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Shes placed well enough to know things are going to get worse before they get better.
 
Duesal said:
Yay! New feat!

I really want to get her introduced to rudimentary runecrafting if possible.
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If she can't use a feat to qualify for a PrC, then she can't really get into anything good. Should she just stick to Archivist? I'd suggest at least taking Paragnostic Apostle, because it has some decent class abilities in the next few levels (unlike Archivist ones, which really aren't great for a while). For example, she could take "+1 insight bonus on dispel checks" right now, or she could get bonuses to blasting spells (+1 CL, or 50% of her damage ignoring resistance against Evil enemies), or give Fast Healing to her summoned creatures, or a +1 to DCs against some enemies, or a +1 CL when casting transmutation spells that provide ability bonuses. Oh, and she get Bardic Knowledge too.
None of these bonuses are earth-shattering, but they are decent. And Archivists don't get anything decent for a while, so... Why not? +1 CL for some spells is excellent if we make a good choice of spell, for example. And +1 to dispel is amazing.

@DragonParadox, if you want to free up space on the first page how about editing Hestior's character sheet? The Lar will never see combat and can't actually fight, and yet many lines and characters are used on things like "Attacks N/A", etc. There are a few sheets/items like that the could be trimmed, IMO. Do we need links to outdated PrCs that no-one actually took?
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
If she can't use a feat to qualify for a PrC, then she can't really get into anything good. Should she just stick to Archivist? I'd suggest at least taking Paragnostic Apostle, because it has some decent class abilities in the next few levels (unlike Archivist ones, which really aren't great for a while). For example, she could take "+1 insight bonus on dispel checks" right now, or she could get bonuses to blasting spells (+1 CL, or 50% of her damage ignoring resistance against Evil enemies), or give Fast Healing to her summoned creatures, or a +1 to DCs against some enemies, or a +1 CL when casting transmutation spells that provide ability bonuses. Oh, and she get Bardic Knowledge too.
None of these bonuses are earth-shattering, but they are decent. And Archivists don't get anything decent for a while, so... Why not? +1 CL for some spells is excellent if we make a good choice of spell, for example. And +1 to dispel is amazing.

@DragonParadox, if you want to free up space on the first page how about editing Hestior's character sheet? The Lar will never see combat and can't actually fight, and yet many lines and characters are used on things like "Attacks N/A", etc. There are a few sheets/items like that the could be trimmed, IMO. Do we need links to outdated PrCs that no-one actually took?
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I'd prefer just keeping her as an Archivist. She doesn't need to be a minimaxed PC.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
If she can't use a feat to qualify for a PrC, then she can't really get into anything good. Should she just stick to Archivist? I'd suggest at least taking Paragnostic Apostle, because it has some decent class abilities in the next few levels (unlike Archivist ones, which really aren't great for a while). For example, she could take "+1 insight bonus on dispel checks" right now, or she could get bonuses to blasting spells (+1 CL, or 50% of her damage ignoring resistance against Evil enemies), or give Fast Healing to her summoned creatures, or a +1 to DCs against some enemies, or a +1 CL when casting transmutation spells that provide ability bonuses. Oh, and she get Bardic Knowledge too.
None of these bonuses are earth-shattering, but they are decent. And Archivists don't get anything decent for a while, so... Why not? +1 CL for some spells is excellent if we make a good choice of spell, for example. And +1 to dispel is amazing.

@DragonParadox, if you want to free up space on the first page how about editing Hestior's character sheet? The Lar will never see combat and can't actually fight, and yet many lines and characters are used on things like "Attacks N/A", etc. There are a few sheets/items like that the could be trimmed, IMO. Do we need links to outdated PrCs that no-one actually took?
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Keep her as Archivist.
Unless there's a crafting-class for her?

No point in making her a fighter, she isn't one anyway.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
If she can't use a feat to qualify for a PrC, then she can't really get into anything good. Should she just stick to Archivist? I'd suggest at least taking Paragnostic Apostle, because it has some decent class abilities in the next few levels (unlike Archivist ones, which really aren't great for a while). For example, she could take "+1 insight bonus on dispel checks" right now, or she could get bonuses to blasting spells (+1 CL, or 50% of her damage ignoring resistance against Evil enemies), or give Fast Healing to her summoned creatures, or a +1 to DCs against some enemies, or a +1 CL when casting transmutation spells that provide ability bonuses. Oh, and she get Bardic Knowledge too.
None of these bonuses are earth-shattering, but they are decent. And Archivists don't get anything decent for a while, so... Why not? +1 CL for some spells is excellent if we make a good choice of spell, for example. And +1 to dispel is amazing.

@DragonParadox, if you want to free up space on the first page how about editing Hestior's character sheet? The Lar will never see combat and can't actually fight, and yet many lines and characters are used on things like "Attacks N/A", etc. There are a few sheets/items like that the could be trimmed, IMO. Do we need links to outdated PrCs that no-one actually took?
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There is something wrong with the way the forum tracks characters per post. After updating the sheets for Viserys and the Companions, I put the whole thing in a word/character counter. It's less than 140,000, but the forum thinks it's over 300,000. As an experiment I removed the entire stat block for Varys the Pseudodragon, which isn't that small, and it was still over the limit.

Hestior isn't on the problematic page.

On the topic of Leila, what if we retrained her crafting feats? That would open up a lot of options, and this latest encounter could be the impetus she needs to reprioritize her training for combat.
 
Goldfish said:
There is something wrong with the way the forum tracks characters per post. After updating the sheets for Viserys and the Companions, I put the whole thing in a word/character counter. It's less than 140,000, but the forum thinks it's over 300,000. As an experiment I removed the entire stat block for Varys the Pseudodragon, which isn't that small, and it was still over the limit.

Hestior isn't on the problematic page.

On the topic of Leila, what if we retrained her crafting feats? That would open up a lot of options, and this latest encounter could be the impetus she needs to reprioritize her training for combat.
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I'd rather not. We might not necessarily be in desperate need of crafters anymore, but I liked Leila as Lya's official assistant.
 
@Goldfish, @Duesal: I like the idea of Leila as a crafter. She was ennobled for that, after all!
Note that Crafter PrCs exist! The Maester PrC requires an arcane CL 5 (and being a gnome, but DP tends to waive such requirements) and it loses a spellcaster level, but at level 1 it grants crafting at double speed. If we can grab any trick to get an Arcane CL, then I strongly suggest having her enter! Or begging DP to let a divine CL work: the class is meant to be wizard-flavored, but isn't an Archivist a divine wizard?
Then there's the Runecaster PrC, which grants a bunch of rune-related feats and is very easy to enter. The runes used aren't quite permanent magic items, but it deifintely has the spellcasting feel and would be very fluffy if we taught her Runecrafting I this level.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
@Goldfish, @Duesal: I like the idea of Leila as a crafter. She was ennobled for that, after all!
Note that Crafter PrCs exist! The Maester PrC requires an arcane CL 5 (and being a gnome, but DP tends to waive such requirements) and it loses a spellcaster level, but at level 1 it grants crafting at double speed. If we can grab any trick to get an Arcane CL, then I strongly suggest having her enter! Or begging DP to let a divine CL work: the class is meant to be wizard-flavored, but isn't an Archivist a divine wizard?
Then there's the Runecaster PrC, which grants a bunch of rune-related feats and is very easy to enter. The runes used aren't quite permanent magic items, but it deifintely has the spellcasting feel and would be very fluffy if we taught her Runecrafting I this level.
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A reflavored Maester PrC would be super neat, especially with that Quick Crafting class feature.
 
So. I'm exhausted and in need of food. But I'm also not completely dead on my feet. Which means that after I get food, I will be working on something called HT 38.

Gotta do some bits and pieces to the plot to make it work, but I'm looking forward to this. Hey @Sqweaktoy are you around for me to throw stuff at you for sanity checking?
 
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