[X] Blow the Charges and Bury Them!

I think keeping him on the back (hoof?), is probably the best chance we get to use traps, especially if he's expecting them from now on.
 
Another thing to keep in mind is that his elites have a fear aura, and our troops are exhausted and we only avoided a morale check last round by a good roll on the line holding. If we charge now, we will have a morale check and our militia and regulars are already on edge. One bad roll could cause half our army to rout.
 
Another thing to keep in mind is that his elites have a fear aura, and our troops are exhausted and we only avoided a morale check last round by a good roll on the line holding. If we charge now, we will have a morale check and our militia and regulars are already on edge. One bad roll could cause half our army to rout.
No only the things pulling him have the fear aura thing which our fresh knights will more the likely face or the avalanche will kill one or 2 of them.
Adhoc vote count started by Raptor580 on Feb 15, 2019 at 5:56 PM, finished with 209 posts and 79 votes.
 
Yeah, I misread that bit. Still think that morale is a big problem. Our regulars and militia have taken serious losses and will not be eager to charge.
True but the knights are still fresh and on top morale and seeing them charge in i would imagine give them some boost
Adhoc vote count started by Raptor580 on Feb 15, 2019 at 4:16 PM, finished with 184 posts and 69 votes.
 
Still think that morale is a big problem.

Running away would set a dangerous precedent in my opinion, after all we did not kill sombra, nor did we truly defeat him. We Inconvenienced him and when we run when to the normal soldier all signs point to our advantage, how could they believe they can defy him at a siege? I fear that our morale would suffer from a retreat.
 
True but the knights are still fresh and on top morale and seeing them charge in i would imagine give them some boost

So long as the knights don't charge headfirst into the bellies of those abominations, maybe. My problem with attacking now is it requires everything to go right. If the avalanche doesn't do enough damage, if the knights can't break through and engage Sombra, if our exhausted troops can't stand up to the heavies, any of those would cause us to lose, and lose badly. Retreating now is just more reliable. Even in the worst case where this becomes a prolonged war (which seems unlikely, given Sombra's mentality), we'll have the greater part of our army intact, and will get the chance to build some major fortifications for next time.
 
lets see now

Edit well its tied again a 34-34 and i think this might be the most voters weve had so far.
Adhoc vote count started by Raptor580 on Feb 15, 2019 at 4:18 PM, finished with 187 posts and 70 votes.

Adhoc vote count started by Raptor580 on Feb 15, 2019 at 4:59 PM, finished with 202 posts and 75 votes.
 
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So long as the knights don't charge headfirst into the bellies of those abominations, maybe. My problem with attacking now is it requires everything to go right. If the avalanche doesn't do enough damage, if the knights can't break through and engage Sombra, if our exhausted troops can't stand up to the heavies, any of those would cause us to lose, and lose badly. Retreating now is just more reliable. Even in the worst case where this becomes a prolonged war (which seems unlikely, given Sombra's mentality), we'll have the greater part of our army intact, and will get the chance to build some major fortifications for next time.

That depends as retreating require us to win the siege as well, not to mention that in it he will have most of his forces intact and will be ready for suprises as he already saw us using traps.
 
Honestly, at this point staying will be a slugging fest.
We don't have guns. Or cannonballs, or balista bolts. Or flames.
All we have is bodies to throw at him.

What use is there for a surprise, when we don't have any secret cards to play against him?

Getting more ammo to throw at his hypothetical shields would at least waste some of his strength, and almost certainly hurt his army.
 
Running away would set a dangerous precedent in my opinion, after all we did not kill sombra, nor did we truly defeat him. We Inconvenienced him and when we run when to the normal soldier all signs point to our advantage, how could they believe they can defy him at a siege? I fear that our morale would suffer from a retreat.
Stop. You are so fundamentally misrepresenting the situation that it's not funny.

We have inflicted such one sided and total butchery it is liable to have never, ever been seen before in the history of the wars the Griffins have waged. We have struck dead more men than exist in entire cities by this point and we' s done so with relatively minor losses.

Sombra's campaign from a military standpoint is completely fucked. Even if he managed to take the city, he doesn't have the numbers to actually occupy it while forces every man woman and child to be enslaved. Especially if he wants to keep up he operating tempo. He'll have to bunker down in the city to make good his losses and the Griffin empire's reserves of manpower if we truly go full feudal conscription have not even begun to be depleted. There is no easy victory for Sombra here, there is no meaningless last stand- we shattered his horde and have left naught but the hardened core of his army left. That is a massive, inescapable victory. Sounding the withdrawal here is not going to change the fact we fought a field battle against thrice our numbers and made up more than the difference- especially when we're not quoting the field to let the enemy rape and pillage so much as we are withdrawing to fortifications to make matters even worse for Sombra.

Why risk it all in a Hail Mary when we have been brutalizing and breaking his forces bit by bit? When we can retreat and retain all the advantages we've so carefully spent this battle and Sombra has no realistic way of majorly resupplying his forces? Why would a man as tyrannical and domineering as Sombra use slaves in his military if undead were a viable option? And we already know the Eldritch horrors he summons need special efforts to bind and enslave.

[X] Blow the Charges and Run!

 
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The reason that i chose to bury them is to hopefully break the winter magic that he has over the land, it is going to mess up our economy bad if we don't get our farming income.
 
Honestly, at this point staying will be a slugging fest.
We don't have guns. Or cannonballs, or balista bolts. Or flames.
All we have is bodies to throw at him.

What use is there for a surprise, when we don't have any secret cards to play against him?

Getting more ammo to throw at his hypothetical shields would at least waste some of his strength, and almost certainly hurt his army.
Yes, before he unleash the epic necromancy spell he prepare during the time we give him while we march back to the city.
Are our soldiers tired (except the knight)? Yes.
Low munitions? Yes.
Is there a better chance to fuck him up, with our hidden explosive and if we're lucky bury him? FUCK NO!!!
 
That depends as retreating require us to win the siege as well, not to mention that in it he will have most of his forces intact and will be ready for suprises as he already saw us using traps.
Yes, before he unleash the epic necromancy spell he prepare during the time we give him while we march back to the city.
Are our soldiers tired (except the knight)? Yes.
Low munitions? Yes.
Is there a better chance to fuck him up, with our hidden explosive and if we're lucky bury him? FUCK NO!!!

If he can prepare a campaign altering spell like that in a couple days we might as well surrender now, because nothing we have can kill him.
 
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