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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Goldfish said:
It works equally well against all non-magical projectiles. If someone launched a cruise missile at Viserys in @Snowfire's Horde Thief omake series, and he was protected by Starmantle, the missile would just puff away in a harmless flash of light.
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If it hit him, of course. If it was proximity fused, then he eats an explosion.
Not that this is ever going to be relevant :V
 
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Yes, ah, cruise missiles are legitimately threatening for a variety of reasons.

The biggest way to mitigate that threat is simply not to get hit or be in proximity to one going off to begin with, which a high level full caster can definitely manage, but putting yourself in position to get hit by one in the first place, to what, to prove a point?

This is just asking for a low yield nuclear weapon to go off, and even if it doesn't kill you, do you want to be responsible for bringing on that kind of heat? Congratulations, you're the asshole who thought getting into a dick waving contest with a modern military-industrial complex who, for the sake of the narrative, apparently can't countenance being made a fool of by an overgrown fire-breathing lizard was a good idea, and now everyone recognizes you as the preening reptile who caused fallout to wash over Little Jimmy and Susie's after-school function.
 
Snowfire said:
If it hit him, of course. If it was proximity fused, then he eats an explosion.
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Wings of Cover to the rescue. Celerity + Greater Blink or Celerity + Greater Teleport would also be viable options, if Viserys had even a hint of warning.

Or he could just tank the damage. In the D&D d20 Modern rules, an anti-tank rocket only inflicts 10d6 damage on a direct hit, so Viserys should be able to absorb a hit from any non-nuclear ordinance so long as he isn't already seriously injured.
 
But why risk it?

And the majority of the damage suffered here is obviously social. Words are better weapons seeing as how they seem to outlast the death of whichever jackoff you place in front of you, unless you kill literally everyone involved. You know how much hanging we had to do? A lot. If we had half-assed it like Dany, we'd have Sons of the Harpy in Tyrosh before the first month was out.
 
[X] Azel

I want to kick Olenna and Tyrell ass too but letbe reasonable while doing it.
As much as i tempt to destroy Redwyne and Olenna legacy.
 
TotallyNotEvil said:
"Oh no, fire damage! What am I ever going to do?"
Chapter when?
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I'd rule it as a mix of bludgeoning and fire damage, actually. Like how a fragmentation grenade would deal slashing/piercing. And a cruise missile would do quite a bit more than 10d6 damage, imo. They're rather larger than a man-portable AT rocket.

Part 24 should be up today. It probably won't involve anti-tank rockets. But I promise nothing.
 
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Snowfire said:
I'd rule it as a mix of bludgeoning and fire damage, actually. Like how a fragmentation grenade would deal slashing/piercing. And a cruise missile would probably do rather a lot more than 10d6 damage, imo. They're rather larger than a man-portable AT rocket.

Part 24 should be up today. It probably won't involve anti-tank rockets. But I promise nothing.
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Fuel-air bombs. Gotcha.
 
Snowfire said:
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What? World powers regularly get away with clandestine attacks using weapons that would make people who have read the Geneva Conventions blush. Why not Fomor who can just mindrape anyone who has all the right details? Blame it on those rascally malcontents, ultranationalists, Jihadists... whatever sells.

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Crake: *well reasoned argument on why X is bad idea*

Snowfire: *blinks* "Hey that was actually rational and well argued!"

Crake: *terrible ideas to be contrary*

Snowfire: "Why am I surprised?"
 
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Snowfire said:
10d6 damage, imo. They're rather larger than a man-portable AT rocket.
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Yeah, but a rocket like that usually delivers a highly motel stream of metal that kills due the inside of a vehicle heating up hilariously and the commensurate pressure increase.

In other words, it's a direct hit sort of weapon. Tho, of course, variations exist.

Cruise missiles are made of deliver large booms instead of penetrating tank armour. Rockets only really manage it at their size due their cheat trick with heat and pressure.

Granted, those are very big booms.

But so is a fireball that hits like said AT rocket on a 40 ft tall sphere. At least for Mel that's one of the most impressive comparisons.
 
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So what happens when we inevitably make the dear lord shit his pants and tell him to back off? I do hope for something interesting to say the least.
 
@DragonParadox Consensus.
Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on Dec 22, 2018 at 9:20 AM, finished with 54 posts and 16 votes.
  • [X] Plan Presentation
    -[X] Goal: Be diplomatic to find out if you can flip the Redwynes, both to strengthen your position in Westeros, to weaken the duplicit Tyrells and to lay the foundations for a potential redrawing of maps after the conquest.
    -[X] Let the Queen Rhealla and Hunters Moon hoist parley flags.
    -[X] Viserys Starmantle on himself, then casts Telekinesis.
    -[X] Step off the ship and use Telekinesis to raise a platform of water to carry you over to the leading Redwyne ship. If they attack you, use Wings of Cover or counterspell with Dispel. Do not retaliate.
    -[X] Tell Paxtor Redwyne that the rudeness to your trusted subjects was unnecessary. He could have just asked them for a royal audience and you would have happily obliged. Politely ask him what his business is in your waters.
    [X] Plan "Go blow a Deep One, Paxter!"
    -[X] Viserys uses Wild Arcana to cast Submerge Ship on the Queen Rhaella and the Moonsong so that both ships and their crew can travel directly to the wrecked vessel below. He passes control of each spell to the vessels' respective captains, then assumes his True Dragon form and takes flight.
    --[X] Once both ships have safely submerged, Viserys Blood Wishes a Control Winds spell. He causes the wind to begin blowing in a clockwise fashion, slowly at first in a small radius, but gradually increasing in intensity and size until the entire 720 foot radius of control is inundated with tornado-force winds.
    ---[X] Before the winds grow too intense, Viserys Blood Wishes a Mage's Decree spell, using it to warn those on the opposing ships that their reach exceeds their grasp, and that they should depart quickly, before the strengthening wind rends their ships to pieces.
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TotallyNotEvil said:
Yeah, but a rocket like that usually delivers a highly motel stream of metal that kills due the inside of a vehicle heating up hilariously and the commensurate pressure increase.
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HEAT ammo (High Explosive Anti Tank) has no appreciable thermal component. They deal damage by a highly accelerated stream of super-plastic metal, usually copper.

The ammo usually immobilizes tanks by destroying key components or destroys them by causing an ammo explosion. Neither heat nor pressure are involved.
TotallyNotEvil said:
Cruise missiles are made of deliver large booms instead of penetrating tank armour. Rockets only really manage it at their size due their cheat trick with heat and pressure.
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Depends on the size and mission parameters of a given model. The most commonly known models usually have a kinetic penetration head with a time delayed explosive warhead behind it. Either solid or fuel-air models exist.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Dec 22, 2018 at 9:44 AM, finished with 57 posts and 16 votes.
  • [X] Plan Presentation
    -[X] Goal: Be diplomatic to find out if you can flip the Redwynes, both to strengthen your position in Westeros, to weaken the duplicit Tyrells and to lay the foundations for a potential redrawing of maps after the conquest.
    -[X] Let the Queen Rhealla and Hunters Moon hoist parley flags.
    -[X] Viserys Starmantle on himself, then casts Telekinesis.
    -[X] Step off the ship and use Telekinesis to raise a platform of water to carry you over to the leading Redwyne ship. If they attack you, use Wings of Cover or counterspell with Dispel. Do not retaliate.
    -[X] Tell Paxtor Redwyne that the rudeness to your trusted subjects was unnecessary. He could have just asked them for a royal audience and you would have happily obliged. Politely ask him what his business is in your waters.
    [X] Plan "Go blow a Deep One, Paxter!"
    -[X] Viserys uses Wild Arcana to cast Submerge Ship on the Queen Rhaella and the Moonsong so that both ships and their crew can travel directly to the wrecked vessel below. He passes control of each spell to the vessels' respective captains, then assumes his True Dragon form and takes flight.
    --[X] Once both ships have safely submerged, Viserys Blood Wishes a Control Winds spell. He causes the wind to begin blowing in a clockwise fashion, slowly at first in a small radius, but gradually increasing in intensity and size until the entire 720 foot radius of control is inundated with tornado-force winds.
    ---[X] Before the winds grow too intense, Viserys Blood Wishes a Mage's Decree spell, using it to warn those on the opposing ships that their reach exceeds their grasp, and that they should depart quickly, before the strengthening wind rends their ships to pieces.
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