Rohar wasn't the main leader, but he was the one we captured alive and the only one we could properly dominate to write the book. It was definitely him.

No, we captured the main leader alive, @Duesal. We had him imprisoned in a cell and Bronn guarding him, then dominated and forced him to give up all the information we could think of, which resulted in that book.
 
Damn, I assumed that was Amrelath. I'll have to fix that later.

Didn't we ask her to write a book on Vampires instead? :???:
To be fair, it does give a bonus against vampires to a reader.
I'll take this.

Rohar wasn't the main leader, but he was the one we captured alive and the only one we could properly dominate to write the book. It was definitely him.
Yep.

The leader's book was lost durign fighting.
Hopefully, questioned daemons wil lreveal it's location and we could scry-and-loot it.
 
No, we captured the main leader alive, @Duesal. We had him imprisoned in a cell and Bronn guarding him, then dominated and forced him to give up all the information we could think of, which resulted in that book.
We had the main leader, or rather, the leader of "death" faction only for a short bit, if I'm not wrong.
We got daemon names out of her, some tacttica land strategic info, but not the book - it was certainly done by the guy with rot-knife that jumped one of or magelings. The "pestulance" faction leader.
Him we Dominated for a few days.
 
There were two leaders, one escaped (leading the Death faction, apparently) and one who lead the Pestilence faction, wore that suit of Valyrian Steel Fullplate which was enchanted but we couldn't figure out who to give it to. He was nearly dead from dragonfire, but remained alive enough to secure in the end. Go reread

Edit: Really, it looks like we're getting conflicting information here. I swear up and down Death faction leader escaped, and the pestilence one was alive. And was male.
 
No, we captured the main leader alive, @Duesal. We had him imprisoned in a cell and Bronn guarding him, then dominated and forced him to give up all the information we could think of, which resulted in that book.
There were two sects of Daemon Cultists -- Death, and Decay.

We captured the leader of the Death Cultists alive, and questioned him briefly and got a ton of names from him, but ultimately did not question him thoroughly enough to get a book out of it. I distinctly remember @egoo salting at us over this.

With the Decay cultists, the leader was killed in the field, and Rohar was the one we brought in. He was the only one available to dominate to write a book. Hence, the Canticle of Decay.
 
There were two leaders, one escaped (leading the Death faction, apparently) and one who lead the Pestilence faction, wore that suit of Valyrian Steel Fullplate which was enchanted but we couldn't figure out who to give it to. He was nearly dead from dragonfire, but remained alive enough to secure in the end. Go reread

Edit: Really, it looks like we're getting conflicting information here. I swear up and down Death faction leader escaped, and the pestilence one was alive. And was male.
You mix up people ther, but otherwise that's basically it.

EDIT: Wow, that's a confusing string of ninja infighting.
 
But didn't a leader escape with a main book of lore? That's what y'all told me, and we did get one leader alive in battle who wrote a bunch of stuff.

Was it really Rohar who wrote a full book though?
 
[X] Plan Fuck No, No Fuck
-[X] Mentally to Leto and Mereth: "If he can't keep his hands to himself, refrain from dealing actual injury to him, but make sure he learns his lesson. Stay close to me, just in case we got more of his ilk here." // Which means subdue him violently if necessary, but don't gut him like a fish. Our persona is a dangerous, prideful sorcerer of noteworthy power and someone like this would neither travel around with mere eye-candy, nor take kindly to someone being a creep at his servants.
-[X] Out loud: "Is is customary in these lands to ignore a guest in favor of lusting after his guards? Crudely at that." // Let's ignore the well justified disgust at this guy for a moment and replay the situation. He just offered us a pretty crass insult.
-[X] If he asks about us calling the two of them guards: "Many men have looked forward to their attentions and they all regretted this when they learned what it is that they are skilled at. Consider this warning a favor, for I rarely see a value in correcting this misconception." // Keeping up the Mysterious And Dangerous People image we try to build. I'm not ruling out that the priest has some measure of cunning in the gutter he calls a mind, but right now he is far more useful to us as a way to establish a rapport with the other guests. We want the important people to approach us after all and for that we need to look valuable and strong.
-[X] If he starts introducing himself, cut him off: "Your reputation precedes you and after this, I see that there is little else to say." // Same as above.
-[X] Once you brushed him off, go to the masked man and introduce yourself.
 
Well not to be labour a point but we do technically have a way to suss out criminals. The House of Mirrors can in fact divine and find all the crimes correct?
 
But didn't a leader escape with a main book of lore? That's what y'all told me, and we did get one leader alive in battle who wrote a bunch of stuff.
The leader didn't escape with the book - we just knew that it was taken by someone while fighting happened and never learned where it went.

Which is kinda bad, as it can spring up another cult like that easily.

Was it really Rohar who wrote a full book though?
Yup.
I pushed and pushed for Dominating someone to write us a book for months by then.
I got this, and left the idea alone, finally satisfied.
 
The leader didn't escape with the book - we just knew that it was taken by someone while fighting happened and never learned where it went.

Which is kinda bad, as it can spring up another cult like that easily.


Yup.
I pushed and pushed for Dominating someone to write us a book for months by then.
I got this, and left the idea alone, finally satisfied.

We should find that book.
 
But didn't a leader escape with a main book of lore? That's what y'all told me, and we did get one leader alive in battle who wrote a bunch of stuff.

Was it really Rohar who wrote a full book though?
A total lackey escaped with the main book of lore. We still need to find him at some point, if only for the sake of closure.

We got two important people in Tyrosh.

First was the leader of the Death Cultists, the one who was in the Segmented Reinforced Valyrian Steel Fullplate. All we really did with him was question him and get all the daemon names we knew, and then we proceeded to sacrifice him well before we had enough information for a book.

Rohar was the only other truly important cultist we captured. He wasn't the leader of the Decay faction at all (according to DP it was the Vitreous Drinker) but he knew enough to be dominated to write that book for us.

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But didn't a leader escape with a main book of lore? That's what y'all told me, and we did get one leader alive in battle who wrote a bunch of stuff.

Was it really Rohar who wrote a full book though?
Yes, it definitely was Rohar. I did a Rina omake back then, which included him remarking about the fact that the Dominate on him was lifted for the duration of their talk.
 
We should find that book.
I mean, duh.

I hope that the daemosn we summoned from Tyrosh ilands just a few days ago knew something. More likely than not they did.
And questioning should be easily backgrounded.

Which leads to Viserys, or some other companion, scry-and-dying the last few pockets of (dis)organised cultist resistance, if only to get the book - and the rest is up to inquisition.
 
Of course, the rating of 21/30 was from before we actually went to Valyria, so we need DP's word on how much the score improved for us after we got Saenena's trove of knowledge.

Pretty sure it was provided and @egoo added the bonii to the library, whether it was added to the most up to date version of the library at the time I can't say.
 
Pretty sure it was provided and @egoo added the bonii to the library, whether it was added to the most up to date version of the library at the time I can't say.
I can confirm that the library score wasn't updated. I have a bunch of old posts in PMs that act as a record on this.

We definitely need it updated in response to the Valyrian lore.
 
Pretty sure it was provided and @egoo added the bonii to the library, whether it was added to the most up to date version of the library at the time I can't say.
Nnope, I just compiled the updated numbers back then and tagged DP, at no point did he give any answer to that.
Duesal's work is still viable, relevant, and highly-appreciated, however burnt out I on it.

EDIT: Ninjas are haunting this particular night.
 
@Goldfish, if you got left-over enchantment budget, we could get started on this:
Huh. Just found the rules for Scorpions on the Forgotten Realms page and they can indeed fulfill both the roles of Ballistas and Trebuchets. And all that while being compact.
Thus:

1x Corporal
4x Launcher Operators
4x Spotters
1x Auxilar

2x Horses or Mules

4x Man-Portable Launcher with Tripod
Enchantment Cost: 200 IM
DMG 3d6; Crit 19-20/x2; Maximum Range 440 ft. / 134m
Total: 800 IM

Using Launchers, this squad supports front-line troops by firing bolts or alchemical weapons at short range.
1x Corporal
6x Scorpion Operators
2x Coachman
1x Auxilar

3x Horses
3x Wagon
2x Scorpions (+1, Distance) with Abundant Ammo Container (Solid Steel Shot)
Base Cost: 200 IM
Enchantment Cost: 600 IM
DMG 6d6 + 1; Crit 20/x2; Range Increment 400 ft. / 122 m
Total: 1,600 IM

Two wagons with a Scorpion mounted on the back, giving direct fire-support to the Legion. The Scorpion is protected by a metal shield at the front and mounted on a turret platform to allow easier aiming. It can fire on the move, though accuracy is non-existent under these circumstances. An additional wagon travels along to carry spare parts and ammunition.

Cohort:
2x Launcher Squad
5x Scorpion Squad
1x Engineer / Alchemist Squad
Cost: 2,000 IM (Mundane), 7,600 IM (Enchantment)

Company:
64x Launcher
80x Scorpion
Cost: 16,000 IM (Mundane), 60,800 IM (Enchantment)

Legion:
128x Launcher
160x Scorpion
Cost: 32,000 IM (Mundane), 121,600 IM (Enchantment)


Average damage per Scoprion shot is 22 HP, as opposed to the 14.5 of the ballistas and they can fire heavy enough projectiles to deploy alchemical weapons.
Launchers, using bolts, amount to 1,728 HP of damage on average per round and the Scorpions add another 3,520 HP of damage.

That might sound ridiculous, but it bears to remember that the remainder of the Legion is doing something over 20,000 HP per round as a conservative estimate. Army combat involves damage and HP figures stupendously huge in comparison to even stuff like Doomblob, simply by virtue of the number of combatants.

In effect though, the two Siege Companies could easily wreck a incoming cavalry charge even without using alchemical ammo. To say nothing about how quickly they could tear down and entire fortress with Explosive Pack ammo fired from the Scorpions.
 
Well not to be labour a point but we do technically have a way to suss out criminals. The House of Mirrors can in fact divine and find all the crimes correct?
No. Divination is vague, unreliable, and doing this kind of thing would demand incredible manpower that we just don't have. Each House of Mirrors Divination causes blindness for a while (a week, right? Something like that anyway), so we can't make excessive use of it either.

We use the House of Mirrors for strategic concerns, not tackling petty crime.
 
No. Divination is vague, unreliable, and doing this kind of thing would demand incredible manpower that we just don't have. Each House of Mirrors Divination causes blindness for a while (a week, right? Something like that anyway), so we can't make excessive use of it either.

We use the House of Mirrors for strategic concerns, not tackling petty crime.
No, it was speaking in riddles for a day. Blindness was for Scry and also lasted only a day.

Also, we can make the divinations arbitrarily precise by employing good old Baysian Logic.

It's still a strategic level tool though. Using 10 IM per casting to catch petty thieves is insane.
 
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10 is "world class". 20 is "even extra-planar empires balk at your splendor and excessive spending, even as your check book weeps".
Anything approaching 10 is actually really good for Prime Material. Go above 10 and you start getting impressive enough for the Planes
Really, the descriptions don't support that.
@Goldfish, if you got left-over enchantment budget, we could get started on this:
Scorpions should have a base cost of 450, IIRC. Costs an extra 2500 go for the masterwork.
 
No, it was speaking in riddles for a day. Blindness was for Scry and also lasted only a day.

Also, we can make the divinations arbitrarily precise by employing good old Baysian Logic.

It's still a strategic level tool though. Using 10 IM per casting to catch petty thieves is insane.

I was thinking more slavers and less petty thieves in all honesty.
 
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[X] Azel

@Azel It might not be necessary here, but keep in mind that our Erinyes have Charm Monster has an At-Will SLA. It has a very respectable Will save DC of 21, too.
 
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