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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Azel said:
Point, but Corbray is off limits. We need him as the target to steer Grafton against. I would honestly like to invest some time and effort into Grafton if the meeting looks promising.

The optimal endgame for this is that we keep whispering in Graftons ear and/or dreams, erode his faith enough to flip him to the Old Gods and then convince him to punish the vile Devil worshiper Corbray by sacrificing him to the Old Gods.

That is how you settle a score.
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Corbray is fine. I'm talking about the devils that still have Thoros' body parts. We can scry and die them on the side just fine, assuming they're not with Corbray.

I have to admit, I didn't think Thoros would be useful. This is the biggest help he's been so far.
 
Goldfish said:
Doesn't casting our spells/SLAs cause less "noise" than Dreamcasting?
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Added that Dany should use the template in case it makes it less disruptive.
Duesal said:
Corbray is fine. I'm talking about the devils that still have Thoros' body parts. We can scry and die them on the side just fine, assuming they're not with Corbray.

I have to admit, I didn't think Thoros would be useful. This is the biggest help he's been so far.
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[X] Azel

I'll hold off asking about Lamentation for now. Interrogate the pleasure devil about it later when we're also asking for the name of Yss' birthday meal.
 
Can I just ask, what's the rough timeline of the next few months? Because we're going to be warring with the shaitan alongside the earth and air genies with salamander and other fire plane support. Fighting the deep ones with the tritons and I've got no idea if anyone else is joining us for that when the truce breaks with our preemptive strike.
We're conquering Lys and Myr, helping braavos conquer pentos, colonising sotheryos(however you spell the damn word). Accepting volantis' fealty and finally conquering the seven kingdoms. Then accepting braavos and pentos fealty, presumably conquering norvos, qohor and Lorath at some point.
Then we've got shit like the Others invasion on the horizon and devil, demon and Tiamat plots to defuse all the while.
We're gonna make Aegon the Conquerer look like a scrub by the end of this...
So again, what's the order we're doing this in? Have we figured that out yet?
 
Duesal said:
I have to admit, I didn't think Thoros would be useful. This is the biggest help he's been so far.
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Thoros is a good guy and an excellent warrior, as well as yet another PC we can add to our ranks. However, expecting him to be useful in this situation is rather unrealistic.

@Azel, we should also Usenet our downtime to interrogate the Devils. Names, plans, any sort of information would be useful, not just here but beyond the Vale.
 
Destrark said:
So again, what's the order we're doing this in? Have we figured that out yet?
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As much as we love the schedule, planning months ahead is ultimately impractical due to how much things shift. We'll be taking out Lys and Myr in the next two months, and around that time Volantis and Braavos will swear fealty. After that, and some time to handle the situation, we'll be invading Westeros.
 
LonelyWolf999 said:
Thoros is a good guy and an excellent warrior, as well as yet another PC we can add to our ranks. However, expecting him to be useful in this situation is rather unrealistic.
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Sure, but he's drastically below us in level, and very under-equipped. I don't think it was unreasonable of me to see him as nothing but dead weight for the time being. There's a very good reason we never bothered taking him along for any of the work in King's Landing or the Vale. He would have done nothing but get in the way. He'll get useful in time, don't get me wrong, but he can't keep up with us.
LonelyWolf999 said:
As much as we love the schedule, planning months ahead is ultimately impractical due to how much things shift. We'll be taking out Lys and Myr in the next two months, and around that time Volantis and Braavos will swear fealty. After that, and some time to handle the situation, we'll be invading Westeros.
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Actually, Lys and Myr are next month. The plot to destroy the armies of Lys was a three-month plan that's just about to come into fruition, and we've already laid the groundwork for Myr by offering Lady Phassen the position of Governor of Myr.
 
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Destrark said:
Can I just ask, what's the rough timeline of the next few months? Because we're going to be warring with the shaitan alongside the earth and air genies with salamander and other fire plane support. Fighting the deep ones with the tritons and I've got no idea if anyone else is joining us for that when the truce breaks with our preemptive strike.
We're conquering Lys and Myr, helping braavos conquer pentos, colonising sotheryos(however you spell the damn word). Accepting volantis' fealty and finally conquering the seven kingdoms. Then accepting braavos and pentos fealty, presumably conquering norvos, qohor and Lorath at some point.
Then we've got shit like the Others invasion on the horizon and devil, demon and Tiamat plots to defuse all the while.
We're gonna make Aegon the Conquerer look like a scrub by the end of this...
So again, what's the order we're doing this in? Have we figured that out yet?
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We have kicked the anthills in Lys and Myr, scheduling the formers attack on us for the coming month and Myr probably having a bad case of coup right after we crush them. (And isn't it nice when you can tell your enemies when to invade you?)

After that, we talk with Zherys if he would prefer to hand over Volantis before Tolos and Mantarys declare for us or afterwards. Depends on the image he wants to present to his backers at home. That's another two months.

Once this is done, we gear up our Legions to conquer Westeros.

In parallel, we aid the Shaitan war effort and spare a few days to help Braavos conquer Pentos.

The Illithid are, as of yet, a long-term concern. Though I think we should look into getting some Sahuagin from our Triton allies to start on that bio-weapon program against them.
 
Oh god the infrastructure backlog when we take the other two cities and their 20 combined tributary cities and two thirds of disputed lands is gonna hurt isn't it? Should we be preparing the building materials in advance or back ordering titan tools?

Eugh! That's 22 new cities that are gonna need major Plumbing work atleast. Two of them Major...are the tunnel bugs ready yet? Because I'd rather speed it up with dungeon crawl sized sewers than buy another titan tool.

Also did the other 10 notable cities in Tyroshes disputed lands territory get infrastructure work done yet?
 
Braavos seems pretty sure that they can take Pentos, but I loved when Viserys pointed out to the Sealord that given the stupidity of most Essosi elite, a lot of them are probably Far Spawn or Fiend pawns, or alternatively ferrying around evil artifacts of doom that their families have been using as paperweights or conversation pieces for who knows how long, and there's bound to be one Magister willing to unleash some ancient evil to spite everyone, regardless of if it destroys the city or not. Most of these merchant lords are pampered pigs who can't countenance the world not revolving around them.

So us showing up in the sky isn't just a "waving the flag" moment, it is probably literal high-risk high-payout insurance policy against possible WMDs.
 
Crake said:
Braavos seems pretty sure that they can take Pentos, but I loved when Viserys pointed out to the Sealord that given the stupidity of most Essosi elite, a lot of them are probably Far Spawn or Fiend pawns, or alternatively ferrying around evil artifacts of doom that their families have been using as paperweights or conversation pieces for who knows how long, and there's bound to be one Magister willing to unleash some ancient evil to spite everyone, regardless of if it destroys the city or not. Most of these merchant lords are pampered pigs who can't countenance the world not revolving around them.

So us showing up in the sky isn't just a "waving the flag" moment, it is probably literal high-risk high-payout insurance policy against possible WMDs.
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We should also ask Yrael for some of his guys to come along. When suddenly a Adult Dragon flanked by a few Archons appears over the battlefield, anyone except the most retarded magister should realize that this is a good moment to surrender.
 
By the way, @Goldfish, Sending Stones have been ubiquitously useful on numerous occasions, and more than on just an emergency backup plan basis. Many times in updates if Viserys just suddenly has the idea to use one of them since it is literally the most expedient way to get an important message to someone without having to maneuver around three layers of security and lighting the local rumor mill on fire.

We should probably buy some more.

Edit: Yes, we could Blood Wish one if we wanted to contact someone we know. But if only the other person in question knows, and they can't prepare or spontaneously cast Sending, then giving them a Stone is the only way around it.
 
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[X] Azel

Also, not entirely related but there's a popular theory that Lem Lemon cloak from Canon is actually Richard Lonmouth. If that's the case, he's sure as hell doing better here.
 
Azel said:
We should also ask Yrael for some of his guys to come along. When suddenly a Adult Dragon flanked by a few Archons appears over the battlefield, anyone except the most retarded magister should realize that this is a good moment to surrender.
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The last few times we tried that it was not as effective because we didn't do enough prep work priming the populace for surrender. Id like to see if we can do it this time, and see how well it works.
 
Richard manages to be an elusive and mysterious major character even in ASWaH. It's just that the things that were ground-breaking plot points in ASoIaF seem innocuous and mundane personal secrets from our perspective, since it's just shit that Richard might have witnessed during Robert's Rebellion that he isn't specifically hiding from us, simply forbearing from speaking of it in great detail due to the pain it causes, with Viserys aware of the subject matter that what came before their meeting in Braavos isn't important enough to dig into old wounds for.

And to be fair... there really isn't a point. All of the potentially sensitive information that he might unknowingly be in possession of, we have already been appraised, and we owe a lot of it to Bloodraven and our own nosing around in the East. We have so many fingers in the pie Eastward that you can't take two steps in Essos without tripping over a Viserys Targaryen plot, and it's the same in Westeros only replace "Viserys Targaryen" with "the Three-Eyed Crow". And due to us being Brynden's eyes in the East as he is our eyes in the West, we share notes... and the notes he has.

It's a damn shame someone is probably going to rat on Brynden and reveal to us all of his dirty secrets. And I don't mean the boring ones like sorcery and blood magic and sister-incest, because puh-lease! We mean the whole "I probably am mostly responsible for a lot of the headaches you are now dealing with because I was working with limited resources and your older brother was surprisingly idiotic"/"Euron was crazier than I anticipated. Like way crazier. Like holy shit he was so crazy. My bad."
 
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