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Paths of Civilization II: Paths of Industrialization

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[X][Research1] Mid 19th Century Biology (0/???) [Science][Biology][Open]
[X][Research2] Spectroscopy (0/???) [Science][Chemistry][Physics][Rare]
[X][Research3] Prototype Seafaring Steamships (10/35-45?) [Military][Naval][Open]

Everything on offer is really good, honestly. I want Darwin, science far ahead of its time, and a better navy to contest Nohon and Sketch.
 
Eh fuck it. Military Engineering will finish via drips next turn anyway, just checked.

[X][Research1] Mid 19th Century Biology (0/???) [Science][Biology][Open]
[X][Research2] Spectroscopy (0/???) [Science][Chemistry][Physics][Rare]
[X][Research3] Prototype Seafaring Steamships (10/35-45?) [Military][Naval][Open]

Darwin and a random 20th century optical tech. Alright.

Having spectroscopy without electromagnetic theory is weirrrrrrrd though.
 
[X][Research1] Mid 19th Century Biology (0/???) [Science][Biology][Open]
[X][Research2] Spectroscopy (0/???) [Science][Chemistry][Physics][Rare]
[X][Research3] Prototype Seafaring Steamships (10/35-45?) [Military][Naval][Open]
 
We can get military engineering quickly and leverage our giant army to do stuff!
 
[X][Research1] Mid 19th Century Biology (0/???) [Science][Biology][Open]
[X][Research2] Spectroscopy (0/???) [Science][Chemistry][Physics][Rare]
[X][Research3] Prototype Seafaring Steamships (10/35-45?) [Military][Naval][Open]
 
[X][Research1] Mid 19th Century Biology (0/???) [Science][Biology][Open]
[X][Research2] Spectroscopy (0/???) [Science][Chemistry][Physics][Rare]
[X][Research3] Prototype Seafaring Steamships (10/35-45?) [Military][Naval][Open]
 
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[X][Research1] Mid 19th Century Biology (0/???) [Science][Biology][Open]
[X][Research2] Spectroscopy (0/???) [Science][Chemistry][Physics][Rare]
[X][Research3] Prototype Seafaring Steamships (10/35-45?) [Military][Naval][Open]
 
[X][Research1] Mid 19th Century Biology (0/???) [Science][Biology][Open]
[X][Research2] Spectroscopy (0/???) [Science][Chemistry][Physics][Rare]
[X][Research3] Prototype Seafaring Steamships (10/35-45?) [Military][Naval][Open]
 
[X][Research1] Mid 19th Century Biology (0/???) [Science][Biology][Open]
[X][Research2] Spectroscopy (0/???) [Science][Chemistry][Physics][Rare]
[X][Research3] Prototype Seafaring Steamships (10/35-45?) [Military][Naval][Open]
 
[X][Research1] Industrial Machine Tools (14/???)[Industrial][Open]
We really need to catch up on industry.
[X][Research2] Spectroscopy (0/???) [Science][Chemistry][Physics][Rare]
rare means good... right?
[X][Research3] Military Engineering (31/40) [Military][Industrial][Open]
This is so close and this being wartime could advance our industry a lot if we roll it out now.
 
[X][Research1] Mid 19th Century Biology (0/???) [Science][Biology][Open]
[X][Research2] Spectroscopy (0/???) [Science][Chemistry][Physics][Rare]
[X][Research3] Prototype Seafaring Steamships (10/35-45?) [Military][Naval][Open]
 
Xepheria said:
Eh fuck it. Military Engineering will finish via drips next turn anyway, just checked.

[X][Research1] Mid 19th Century Biology (0/???) [Science][Biology][Open]
[X][Research2] Spectroscopy (0/???) [Science][Chemistry][Physics][Rare]
[X][Research3] Prototype Seafaring Steamships (10/35-45?) [Military][Naval][Open]

Darwin and a random 20th century optical tech. Alright.

Having spectroscopy without electromagnetic theory is weirrrrrrrd though.
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um, spectroscopy is early 19th century, according to wikipedia.
 
[X][Research1] Mid 19th Century Biology (0/???) [Science][Biology][Open]
[X][Research2] Electromagnetic Theory (0/???) [Science][Physics][Open]
[X][Research3] Prototype Seafaring Steamships (10/35-45?) [Military][Naval][Open]

I'm not sure why we're going for spectroscopy before electromagnetism?

tryrar said:
um, spectroscopy is early 19th century, according to wikipedia.
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Spectroscopy found helium in the sun before it was isolated on Earth, IIRC. I don't think it's a 20th-century tech either.

George said:
rare means good... right?
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Well, pretty much every avenue of research is good. The question is which one is better.

EDIT: and I forgot to add that therefore rare is not necessarily better. Just, well, rare.
 
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[X][Research1] Industrial Machine Tools (14/???)[Industrial][Open]
[X][Research2] Electromagnetic Theory (0/???) [Science][Physics][Open]
[X][Research3] Prototype Seafaring Steamships (10/35-45?) [Military][Naval][Open]
 
[X][Research1] Mid 19th Century Biology (0/???) [Science][Biology][Open]
[X][Research2] Spectroscopy (0/???) [Science][Chemistry][Physics][Rare]
[X][Research3] Prototype Seafaring Steamships (10/35-45?) [Military][Naval][Open]
 
Basically, Spectroscopy (or at least the version you are getting) is a 19th Century tech that normally requires:

Industrial Optics
Inorganic Chemistry
Electromagnetics

But you are so good at optics and so interested in light that you can work out a bunch of stuff without all the prereqs. That's why it is a Rare tech.
 
DaLintyGuy said:
What exactly is Spectroscopy, though?
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Spoiled as this goes indepth to a degree unneeded in the game
The emission of photons from elections as the fall back down to the uhhhh... Lowest energy quanta they can stay in. Each atom (or ion of atoms) having a specific arrangement of electons, means that the specific discreet energy jumps will always release the same group of wavelengths as any other ion with the same atomic number and electronic arrangement.

The bit I'm unsure on is if one atom (or ion) can release multiple wavelengths or if it was a group of atoms, e.g. a star releasing light from hydrogen and iron and helium and...

Also unsure if two atoms with different atomic numbers (no of proteins) (and possibly atomic weight (no of protons and neutrons)) but the same electron distribution in it's shells (I was taught that electons are distributed in "shells" (probably ;) ) would habe the same wavelength of emitted photons or not. - I mean, what if an atom with 8 electrons and an ion with 8 electrons were compared. Would the be the same? Would the ion's distribution of electons be different because there is a different number of protons attracting them than in the atom? I mean in the usual sense of course I mean, there is always the possibility that a electron would rather tunnel to somewhere else instead of emitting a photon EVEN IF IT HAS TO BORROW ENERGY FROM THE FUTURE TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE POTENTIAL ENERGY BARRIER CREATED BY WHATEVER IT IS TUNNELING THROUGH.

The Future tho! Damm physics is awesome-weird! :D

Hmm, the Spoiled bit may not actually make sense to someone who does not already know how it works. I'm not fantastic at explaining things.

And am probably 30-70% wrong.

Electrons exists tho! (well, any given electron probably exists untill you look at it and then it does exist).
 
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BeepSmile said:
Spoiled as this goes indents to a degree unneeded in the game
The emission of photons from elections as the fall back down to the uhhhh... Lowest energy quanta they can stay in. Each atom (or ion of atoms) having a specific arrangement of electons, means that the specific discreet energy jumps will always release the same group of wavelengths as any other ion with the same atomic number and electronic arrangement.

The bit I'm unsure on is if one atom (or ion) can release multiple wavelengths or if it was a group of atoms, e.g. a star releasing light from hydrogen and iron and helium and...

Also unsure if two atoms with different atomic numbers (no of proteins) (and possibly atomic weight (no of protons and neutrons)) but the same electron distribution in it's shells (I was taught that electons are distributed in "shells" (probably ;) ) would habe the same wavelength of emitted photons or not. - I mean, what if an atom with 8 electrons and an ion with 8 electrons were compared. Would the be the same? Would the ion's distribution of electons be different because there is a different number of protons attracting them than in the atom? I mean in the usual sense of course I mean, there is always the possibility that a electron would rather tunnel to somewhere else instead of emitting a photon EVEN IF IT HAS TO BORROW ENERGY FROM THE FUTURE TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE POTENTIAL ENERGY BARRIER CREATED BY WHATEVER IT IS TUNNELING THROUGH
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One atom can emit multiple colors based on the different places electrons can end up. The more electron orbits, the more complex color set.

The specific pattern is VERY unique to each elemement though, and you can tease apart what elements are in something by ionizing it and splitting all the colors out to look at individually.

It also leads to it's reverse - solar power. When messing about with spectography one can notice that some metals give off voltage when exposed to intense light
 
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Horologer said:
Well, pretty much every avenue of research is good. The question is which one is better.

EDIT: and I forgot to add that therefore rare is not necessarily better. Just, well, rare.
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I think the practical applications will drag our other relevant techs forward, which is the same reason I'm voting for the steamships.
 
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