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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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@DragonParadox

Have we not colored our soldiers' armor the traditional black with red accents yet? You called our training men a "silver beast". So I was confused.

[X] Deliver the goods to Dalla now while you have the time
 
DragonParadox said:
Amrelath: To each his own, but that does not make them inherently worthy of knowing the secrets of dragon-kind.
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The Knowledge is for Viserys and he will do with it as he wishes.

Our reasons for wanting that specific knowledge are already outlined, History is important, contrasting the History from perspective of Amrelath in Lichdom and Life will benefit not just a better understanding of Lichdom but we have 2 perspectives on the same History.
 
Azel said:
Just to intensify the hype a bit.

This is what we got:

This is what they got:

Place your bets now people!
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I still don't know why people hyped the unsulied so much, a bunch of almost naked slave eunuch soldiers doesn't seem to be such a great force to me.
 
DragonParadox said:
Black and red enamel does not come cheap since it cannot just be fabricated on. You can vote on that later but it will cost extra.
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The red part would need some work, but blackening armor is cheap and a common way to inhibit rust. You basically oil up the armor and then heat it to form a strong layer of soot on it.

Should have been done when the armors were fitted as a matter of course.
 
MasterDrakus said:
I still don't know why people hyped the unsulied so much, a bunch of almost naked slave eunuch soldiers doesn't seem to be such a great force to me.
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It was mostly because of their discipline.

When the average army soldier is a peasant in chain mail who probably hasn't traveled farther than about 4 miles from their home/village/city at the most, any soldier that can follow orders on the dime and kill without hesitation looks goddamn monstrous on the battlefield.

Of course now that there are actually monsters running around and our fires of industry are burning full throttle to drown this world in steel and flame a bunch of naked slaves with their balls chopped off lose a touch of the old mysticism.
 
Evaunit02mark1 said:
It was mostly because of their discipline.

When the average army soldier is a peasant in chain mail who probably hasn't traveled farther than about 4 miles from their home/village/city at the most, any soldier that can follow orders on the dime and kill without hesitation looks goddamn monstrous on the battlefield.

Of course now that there are actually monsters running around and our fires of industry are burning full throttle to drown this world in steel and flame a bunch of naked slaves with their balls chopped off lose a touch of the old mysticism.
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This is basically correct, though I will freely admit in DPs place I'd have also made them really mechanically good for their role (as in proper fighter levels with solid feats and good stats or maybe some light weaboo fightan magic.) To reflect just how much better they are than common soldiers.
 
MasterDrakus said:
I still don't know why people hyped the unsulied so much, a bunch of almost naked slave eunuch soldiers doesn't seem to be such a great force to me.
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They are strong not because they are Eunuchs, but because they are trained intensively in battle from childhood, and then only the best third of the trainees live to become Unsullied, Unsullied battle tactics, weapons and armor is far from the best, but they still deserve their reputation of fearsome warriors, because while they don't go though the best training, they do go though more intensive training than almost any other warriors, and the training take longer than almost any other too, I expect Unsullied to be a shit NPC warrior class, even worse than most NPC warrior classes, but I expect the average level for Unsullied in said class, to be between 5-7, because they have been training so long and so hard, that they make up for the fact that their fighting style being shit, by all being masters of said fighting style.

Unsullied train harder and longer than any other warrior organization on Planetos, they train in an absolute shit way, but they make up for it and take their place as the premier troops of Essos, by just how good they are at their shit fighting style.

2 level in the Unsullied class, might only be equal to 1 level in Fighter, but if the average Unsullied is level 6, and the average Fighter in most armies is level 2, that still mean the Unsullied are a level above the Fighters on average.
 
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I've rediscovered a great spell I never paid much attention to before now.

Greater Stone Metamorphosis, the higher level version of Stone Metamorphosis. Dany, Malarys, or Rina can prepare it.

Each casting of the spell can turn 12,000+ cubic feet of any type of stone into obsidian.

Using a combination of Greater Stone Shape, Wall of Stone, and Greater Stone Metamorphosis, we can purpose build Dragonglass redoubts and other defensive structures with ridiculous ease now, without needing to ship the stuff in from Molten Skies. If Rina needs something constructive to do, this could be it.
 
@Goldfish DP said that materials formed into being through magic may share the same material properties, but have none of the needed conceptual baggage attached to it. So it wouldn't be Otherbane if it isn't naturally forming.
 
It might also be possible to abuse that for industry by producing ores or flux stone or whatever rather than having to haul it in quantity from wherever it is mined.
 
Goldfish said:
Aww. :(
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It makes sense, he said he doesn't want to remove the pathos from war by making it so mundane armies are totally obsolete, so he focuses magic in such a way that militaries are enhanced by it, not make them wastes of resources.

In the same way, why remove the value of natural deposits if you can just wave your hands and gain all the properties of the regular ones without any resource scarcity concerns? Why conquer anything for any purpose other than raw square meters to build on? And you wouldn't run out anytime soon either.

Magic can still make construction and infrastructure projects easier, or even feasible where before they would either be difficult or even impossible, but they don't waive away all the concerns.
 
Goldfish said:
I've rediscovered a great spell I never paid much attention to before now.

Greater Stone Metamorphosis, the higher level version of Stone Metamorphosis. Dany, Malarys, or Rina can prepare it.

Each casting of the spell can turn 12,000+ cubic feet of any type of stone into obsidian.

Using a combination of Greater Stone Shape, Wall of Stone, and Greater Stone Metamorphosis, we can purpose build Dragonglass redoubts and other defensive structures with ridiculous ease now, without needing to ship the stuff in from Molten Skies. If Rina needs something constructive to do, this could be it.
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As @brmj said, it could be useful for smelting materials :D.

Would be funny if we could switch a marble column for a stone one, just because we want :D
 
For example, you could make all of our defensive walls into fused basalt with that spell @Goldfish.

Short of dragonstone, that would be the toughest series of defenses on the planet. With the right wards, toughest bar-none. Westeros construction is cool for scale and "my castle is bigger than your castle" architecture, but practical military engineering isn't exactly their wheelhouse. Fused basalt walls would be... honestly, so bullshit, that the only reason to use Valyrian Dragonstone instead would be any interesting qualities they've given it.
 
Crake said:
For example, you could make all of our defensive walls into fused basalt with that spell @Goldfish.

Short of dragonstone, that would be the toughest series of defenses on the planet. With the right wards, toughest bar-none. Westeros construction is cool for scale and "my castle is bigger than your castle" architecture, but practical military engineering isn't exactly their wheelhouse. Fused basalt walls would be... honestly, so bullshit, that the only reason to use Valyrian Dragonstone instead would be any interesting qualities they've given it.
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We don't even have to bother building our walls out of Wall of Stone'd materials. We can just Fabricate a bunch of limestone or something cheap and relatively useless, then have the clerics transmute it all for us. As for the Dragonstone, we can fabricate that over the walls as a sort of coating for maximum durability.
 
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