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A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover

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Goldfish said:
[X] Counter-Argument.
-[X] The Smith willingly worked for Illyrion Mopatis', as reprehensible a human being as we could hope to find. He also came uncomfortably close to killing Lya. That doesn't get rewarded with Reincarnation or Resurrection.
-[X] Surely he valued his spell books and other Arcane lore, and likely kept it nearby. We can use his remains to fashion a map to lead us to all he held dear. Blood Wish a Create Treasure Map spell with his ashes.
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Eh, he seemed more afraid than angry to us.

When the Dread Sorcerer is teleporting into your study, you tend to panic. Especially as your boss is currently aligned against him.
 
[X] Agree, keep the ashes for possible reincarnation

At CL 15, Viserys has half a month to raise him, assuming bloodwish can reform his body, the 13/11(?) For Dany and Lya. Unless there is a reason Vee's reincarnation spell is needed.
 
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TotallyNotEvil said:
Eh, he seemed more afraid than angry to us.

When the Dread Sorcerer is teleporting into your study, you tend to panic. Especially as your boss is currently aligned against him.
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Conversely, he could have approached Lya for cooperation in good faith way back when, instead of stealing her notes or having/letting Mopatis steal them for him. And @Goldfish's other points still stand.

I'm not against him getting Reincarnation, exactly, but I do want to Bloodwish Speak With the Dead in order to determine if he deserves the effort from us.

[X] Use Bloodwish to enable Speak With the Dead.
-[X] Ask him about any treasures, research materials or whatever else he knows of that might be of interest.
-[X] Ask him why he collaborated with Mopatis and how complicit/deliberate he was in the matter of stealing Lya's notes.
-[X] Raise the topic of potential Reincarnation if he's a palatable enough conversationalist.
 
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[X] Agree, keep the actions for possible reincarnation

Should we speak with him first thing in the morning? I wsnt to deal with this as soon as possible.
 
Diomedon said:
@DragonParadox

Some of our party can probably go home while we're doing the whole judging thing. Vee needs to finish the safe memory moss usage if we're going to use it for our anti-divination plan, and she can transport 3-4 people with her, depending on if DP let's her use her effective level 12 despite us not having done the level up for her yet.

Maelor and Glyra both should have an opportunity to rest before heading to do the important Tyrosh investigations, and Aradia needs to go visit Greenstone with Azema. If DP let's Vee teleport as a level 12 caster, she can bring along an Iron Archer to back Aradia and Azema up.

Is that an alright slight retcon (to let them go home after it's clear there wont be a fight) and can Vee teleport as a level 12 caster?
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A day's worth of providing security seemed, like a decent cushion, but if you guys really want a ret-con I'm not really against it.
 
Okay, so with Dany casting Speak with Dead on the ashes, we have 6 questions that can be asked over the course of 13 minutes.

1. Would you answer the call to be brought back via reincarnation?
2. Would you serve faithfully if brought back?
3. If reincarnated, which form would you most prefer?
4. Where have you hidden your spellbook and other greatest arcane treasures?
5. Name all the mages and monsters in the service of Illyrio Mopatis and speak of how strong they currently are.
6. Tell me of the ritual you were working and what its purpose was and everything that went into its making.

@Goldfish @TotallyNotEvil anything to add?

If questions 1 or 2 are not to our liking, we can just Bloodwish the entire thing into Create Treasure Map. Right, @DragonParadox?
 
das_slash said:
[X] Agree, keep the actions for possible reincarnation

Should we speak with him first thing in the morning? I wsnt to deal with this as soon as possible.
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I would much rather deal with Amrelath first tbh, this guy can wait for a few days, and we can drop some actions (like checking the spy, possibly, or just do that one quickly)
 
Duesal said:
Okay, so with Dany casting Speak with Dead on the ashes, we have 6 questions that can be asked over the course of 13 minutes.

1. Would you answer the call to be brought back via reincarnation?
2. Would you serve faithfully if brought back?
3. If reincarnated, which form would you most prefer?
4. Where have you hidden your spellbook and other greatest arcane treasures?
5. Name all the mages and monsters in the service of Illyrio Mopatis and speak of how strong they currently are.
6. Tell me of the ritual you were working and what its purpose was and everything that went into its making.

@Goldfish @TotallyNotEvil anything to add?

If questions 1 or 2 are not to our liking, we can just Bloodwish the entire thing into Create Treasure Map. Right, @DragonParadox?
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[X] Duesal
 
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[X] As soon as your magic is replenished, use Bloodwish to use Speak with Dead on the ashes of the Smith
-[X] Ask the following:
--[X] Would you answer the call to be brought back via reincarnation or resurrection?
--[X] Would you be willing serve us faithfully if brought back and treated fairly?
--[X] If reincarnated, which form would you most prefer?
--[X] Where have you hidden your spellbook and other greatest arcane treasures?
--[X] Name all the mages and monsters in the service of Illyrio Mopatis and the Golden Company and speak of how strong they currently are and what special abilities they might have.
--[X] Tell me of the ritual you were working and what its purpose was and everything that went into its making.
---[X] If the Smith reveals that he either wouldn't respond to a Reincarnation or Resurrection, carefully preserve the ashes to be added to the skull collection for future research.
 
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[X] Duesal

I hope we're leaving the raising for a week or so, but eh.
Here's a funny thought:

An intelligent construct form would have longevity, no?

Imagine if it was Tor? ;)

(Tor doesn't seem the type to build awesome earth magics, but then again, constucts = loyal seems like something he'd think of.)
 
Actually... on second thought...

@Goldfish, the treasure map is very nice and I'm very tempted. It's super convenient and all. However, the ashes are a treasure all on their own. We and Lya can use Speak with Dead every single week on it to ask all sorts of arcane questions about spells and rituals and everything. There's a reason we have a skull collection. I'm thinking we give up on the Treasure Map and instead just use Speak with Dead to gradually home in on the various treasures the Smith was aware of if he proves unwilling to come back and serve. Speak with Dead just gives us so much more, and unfortunately DP ruled that we can't Speak with Dead on the Treasure Map. :(
 
So it looks like tomorrow is Viserys finishing vetting the sellswords and likely doing the teleport home->back with tower->use bedroll (or insert looting)->Back to SD as a field test of using the tower to transport groups of people. Then is a day or two getting the doomblob threat taken care of. Then we have a few days before we need to deal with that spy we let go (either intercepting or following up). We could spend then maybe two days in Sallosh looting, if we wanted?

I think Vee heading back early is important both for her own work, and so Aradia and Azema have time to hit Greenstone and return in time for Azema to hand off her Greater Ribbon of Disguise.
 
Also, won't bringing Shadow Tower likely awaken all undead In ruins?
 
@Goldfish @Helo89 @BeepSmile @Artemis1992 @egoo @TalonofAnathrax

Heads up that my vote has been changed for this reasoning:
Duesal said:
Actually... on second thought...

@Goldfish, the treasure map is very nice and I'm very tempted. It's super convenient and all. However, the ashes are a treasure all on their own. We and Lya can use Speak with Dead every single week on it to ask all sorts of arcane questions about spells and rituals and everything. There's a reason we have a skull collection. I'm thinking we give up on the Treasure Map and instead just use Speak with Dead to gradually home in on the various treasures the Smith was aware of if he proves unwilling to come back and serve. Speak with Dead just gives us so much more, and unfortunately DP ruled that we can't Speak with Dead on the Treasure Map. :(
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I believe we can get so much more out of this guy if we keep his ashes rather than making a treasure map. All we have to do is consistently check on him week after week to learn more about the arcane treasures he plundered or created.
 
@Diomedon all good points, but there is also the Dracolich that wants to be alive soon, and undead tend to be assholes and are a PR disaster when you are on the same side.
 
[X] Duesal
Again, speak with him first thing in the morning, we have a few days until amrelath finishes his new body and a few years before his deadline runs out, this is more urgent.
 
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