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*Opens negotiations using the Ulitharid corpse as a muppet*
A Sword Without a Hilt: A Song of Ice and Fire/D&D 3.5 Crossover
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*Opens negotiations using the Ulitharid corpse as a muppet*
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- United States
@Crake @BeepSmile @Goldfish @Artemis1992 @The crazy demon
Heads up that I'm changing my vote to a divination and commune session to determine whether or not we should strike at the heart. There's always the chance that this thing is the start of a growing infestation that eventually attacks our Xorn allies and threatens our Iron trade. We should check on that.
@iggyfan @Diomedon @MTB @Tomcost @ryuan @Azel @egoo @tenchifew @Helo89, can I convince you guys to switch to me? I feel like this will bite us in the ass later if we don't address this. And I even have an option for you to still opt out at the end of the divination if we don't like what it tells us.
Okay, so at a CL of 12, Dany can ask 12 questions via Commune.
[X] Dany divines before we decide
-[X] Dany uses Divination to ask, "What kind of Farspawn stalks near the bilestone placed by the Xorn's trade route?"
-[X] Dany subsequently dreamcasts Commune to ask:
--[X] Will going to the Heart take more than 2 days?
---[X] If yes, stick to the caravan route.
--[X] Will clearing out the heart have negative consequences to the Xorn that clearing the Route would avoid?
---[X] If yes, stick to the caravan route.
--[X] Are these Farspawn associated with the Deep Ones?
---[X] If yes, stick to the caravan route.
---[X] If no, ask, "Do these Farspawn have any path to or influence in Prime Material?"
--[X] How many Farspawn are there in the Heart?
--[X] Have the Farspawned divined our coming?
--[X] Do the Farspawn plan to attack the Xorn even if we leave them alone?
--[X] Use the remaining questions on preparing better for the foes there ( like asking if we should have resistance to a specific element or if not having SR for everyone would be Bad)
-[X] At the end of this, decide which path to take.
EDIT: God dammit, this is why I hate Commune questions. Yes, they're useful, but they take forever to write up. I missed the Vote Closed by a mere minute.
Heads up that I'm changing my vote to a divination and commune session to determine whether or not we should strike at the heart. There's always the chance that this thing is the start of a growing infestation that eventually attacks our Xorn allies and threatens our Iron trade. We should check on that.
@iggyfan @Diomedon @MTB @Tomcost @ryuan @Azel @egoo @tenchifew @Helo89, can I convince you guys to switch to me? I feel like this will bite us in the ass later if we don't address this. And I even have an option for you to still opt out at the end of the divination if we don't like what it tells us.
Okay, so at a CL of 12, Dany can ask 12 questions via Commune.
[X] Dany divines before we decide
-[X] Dany uses Divination to ask, "What kind of Farspawn stalks near the bilestone placed by the Xorn's trade route?"
-[X] Dany subsequently dreamcasts Commune to ask:
--[X] Will going to the Heart take more than 2 days?
---[X] If yes, stick to the caravan route.
--[X] Will clearing out the heart have negative consequences to the Xorn that clearing the Route would avoid?
---[X] If yes, stick to the caravan route.
--[X] Are these Farspawn associated with the Deep Ones?
---[X] If yes, stick to the caravan route.
---[X] If no, ask, "Do these Farspawn have any path to or influence in Prime Material?"
--[X] How many Farspawn are there in the Heart?
--[X] Have the Farspawned divined our coming?
--[X] Do the Farspawn plan to attack the Xorn even if we leave them alone?
--[X] Use the remaining questions on preparing better for the foes there ( like asking if we should have resistance to a specific element or if not having SR for everyone would be Bad)
-[X] At the end of this, decide which path to take.
EDIT: God dammit, this is why I hate Commune questions. Yes, they're useful, but they take forever to write up. I missed the Vote Closed by a mere minute.
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- United States
@DragonParadox, can you keep the vote open for a little bit longer?
Sure. Vote-reopened.
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- United States
@DragonParadox, I think that's a yes to a Divination round.
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- Brazil
Diomedea
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So, trying to estimate our iron needs. We're receiving 150 tons, and about 100 tons of that is reserved for the legion.
The figure for the night's watch we received was about 1200 men, and from canon it seems roughly half are stationed at castle black (600), with 150 of them rangers.
That gives us a rough figure of 300 rangers, and 900 builders and stewards for the whole watch. Looking over their roster, I'd be surprised if they had more than 2 dozen knights who knew how to properly wear fullplate. Double that and give them 50 suits of full plate should see to that aspect for a good long while.
All the members of the Night's Watch are trained to fight, but the level of training is going to vary pretty widely. For rough calculation, I'll just be going with a Breastplate for each member, with the difference between chain shirts and reinforced breastplate canceling each other out.
I'll go with 900 light shields, and 900 heavy shields. Enough that everyone should have exactly what they prefer, depending on the situation. A ranger might need to keep armor penalty down when ranging, but want a heavy shield if defending the wall itself, for example.
So it should be roughly about 29 tons of steel to armor the full night's watch (18 tons regular, a bit over a ton for full plate, and just under 10 tons for the shields).
Another 3 tons gives each man a longsword and a dagger, giving us a running total of 32 tons (added obsidian arrowheads and spearheads are very cheap for us to produce, and don't need steel so aren't included). We could add three tons of tools, nails and misc. and call it 35 tons for the watch, leaving us a reserve of 15-35 tons, depending on how many legionnaires we recruit (or another 375-875 legionnaires Post-Tyrosh. Or more importantly, about 667-1555 out of 2000 for a watch force, which is what we're going to be rushing immediately after Tyrosh.)
I think this leaves us in a good position. Enough steel to have our legion ready for Tyrosh, equip the Night's watch with steel arms and armor, and have enough steel that I think we can get the rest for the first Watch garrison via melting down captured weapons and armor from Tyrosh.
In summary:
80-100 tons for the legion
35 tons for Nights watch
15-35 tons for watch garrison.
The figure for the night's watch we received was about 1200 men, and from canon it seems roughly half are stationed at castle black (600), with 150 of them rangers.
That gives us a rough figure of 300 rangers, and 900 builders and stewards for the whole watch. Looking over their roster, I'd be surprised if they had more than 2 dozen knights who knew how to properly wear fullplate. Double that and give them 50 suits of full plate should see to that aspect for a good long while.
All the members of the Night's Watch are trained to fight, but the level of training is going to vary pretty widely. For rough calculation, I'll just be going with a Breastplate for each member, with the difference between chain shirts and reinforced breastplate canceling each other out.
I'll go with 900 light shields, and 900 heavy shields. Enough that everyone should have exactly what they prefer, depending on the situation. A ranger might need to keep armor penalty down when ranging, but want a heavy shield if defending the wall itself, for example.
So it should be roughly about 29 tons of steel to armor the full night's watch (18 tons regular, a bit over a ton for full plate, and just under 10 tons for the shields).
Another 3 tons gives each man a longsword and a dagger, giving us a running total of 32 tons (added obsidian arrowheads and spearheads are very cheap for us to produce, and don't need steel so aren't included). We could add three tons of tools, nails and misc. and call it 35 tons for the watch, leaving us a reserve of 15-35 tons, depending on how many legionnaires we recruit (or another 375-875 legionnaires Post-Tyrosh. Or more importantly, about 667-1555 out of 2000 for a watch force, which is what we're going to be rushing immediately after Tyrosh.)
I think this leaves us in a good position. Enough steel to have our legion ready for Tyrosh, equip the Night's watch with steel arms and armor, and have enough steel that I think we can get the rest for the first Watch garrison via melting down captured weapons and armor from Tyrosh.
In summary:
80-100 tons for the legion
35 tons for Nights watch
15-35 tons for watch garrison.
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- United States
What about just a big wooden cart that we plop down in the courtyard of Castle Black? It's worked for us before whenever we needed to transport a ridiculous amount of material.
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- Germany
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"35 tons for Nights watch". I think a wall of stone / shape stone container is better.
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Currently, for heavy infantry it's roughly 88 lbs, and for crossbowmen about 55 lbs, and they're present in, very roughly, a 3:1 ratio.
For a full 3x3 squad of Heavy infantry, it's 780 lbs, and for a full battalion (new name. Old century) it's about 6,240 for the line and another 750-ish for the officers and others, for about 7000 lbs, or 3.5 tons per heavy infantry battalion.
As for transport to the night's watch, we have a ship heading up that way which should be plenty to carry all of it on it's own, plus food, the obsidian weapons, etc.
Edit: We might not want to send it all at once though, so we don't overwhelm the watch. Across 2-3 months should more than wow them.
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I'm just hoping to the high heavens that we'll finally get a monster we can freely attack where:@Duesal
Thank you very much.
Finally back in a dry place with computer called home and the vote is closed twice over.
1) Attacking doesn't start a war that we can't quickly and decisively end
2) Attacking in no way hurts our allies
3) We're not attacking an organization that is way bigger than we imagined
I really, really hope we can just fight a Beholder with this one. That would be a great and exciting fight, and due to Beholder's ferocious racism even against other Beholders we could be confident that it's the only one we have to deal with.
Also, god damn it. @Diomedon, for minor actions we forgot to have party members learning new languages. Can we add that in?
EDIT: I'll be sure to bring it up to DP when he's done with the update.
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Ships sink. A teleporting Viserys is a harder target.
And that stuff is worth a lot - suites of masterwork full plate etc etc.
tarrangar
Fat arctic chicken
We don't need to armor and arm every man of the Nights Watch, they do have gear they just don't have enough, in time we will want to get them all masterwork, but if we send enough for half the Watch, then that will be enough seeing as they do have some gear.
In the long run we will want to replace almost all their gear seeing as it's not masterwork, but we can eliminate their shortage utterly, by just sending them enough gear for half their men, we aren't arming the Nights Watch from the ground up, we are just removing their shortage.
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It was pointed out that all the officer names/org names for the legion weren't in latin...with the sole exception of Century/Centurion. I felt it was a fairly good point.
Let me know if DP okays it, and I'll add in Viserys trying to make sure everyone can speak in both Westerosi common and a Valyrian Dialect.