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I note that this did not prevent more Lords of Chaos showing up.
It probably caused one to show up. Klarion showed up shortly after the Justice Society exiled Mordru; and after Grayven kills Klarion Mordru shows up and tells him he was able to come back because Klarion is dead.

Mordru does his best to remain dignified. "It was not a reference to Monty Python. It was a statement of fact. Now that Klarion is no more, I have been able to return."

I nod. "And you're looking good. I don't know where you went-"

"And pray that you never do."

"-but I've seen footage of you fighting the Justice Society and wherever it was it's taken years off."

"I felt that a new face would be a reasonable precaution, given the attention I am likely to attract."

"Look… Is the whole 'me killing Klarion' thing going to be a problem for our working relationship? Because I'd rather get that ironed out now."

He shakes his head. "Not at all. I am glad that he is dead. He was a buffoon of a Chaos Lord, interested only in his own temporary amusement and incapable of doing anything particularly creative or significant with the vast power available to him. With him still alive cosmic balance itself prevented me from returning to exact my revenge. You have my thanks, Grayven."
I suspect that killing Nabu will tilt that "cosmic balance" and allow another Lord of Order to enter the world in his place, or possibly allow some mage to ascend to the status of a Lord of Order.
 
Judging by Mordru's words, I think it's more than exiling Mordru made a vacancy, and Klarion jumped for the spot before anyone else could in a power grab without giving any thought to what he'd do with that sort of power. After that, Klarion taking up the role of Lord of Chaos prevented Mordru from returning due to the balance.
 
I was under the impression Nabu turned Giovanni into a meat puppet Goa'uld-style. Heck, even the League calls him "Nabu" and not "Doctor Fate".
Not in canon. He said that becoming Doctor Fate involves "becoming one" with his host, and while in Giovanni's body was overprotective of Zatanna, albeit through a lens of Fate snootyness. In Zoats story it may be different, but it's starting to edge into character bashing.

I don't think Fate ever lost his temper in canon, and had a whimsical sense of humor to boot.

Which of course raises the question of what OL will do if Giovanni displays a similar level of hostility to him once the helmet's off.
 
Not in canon. He said that becoming Doctor Fate involves "becoming one" with his host, and while in Giovanni's body was overprotective of Zatanna, albeit through a lens of Fate snootyness. In Zoats story it may be different, but it's starting to edge into character bashing.

I don't think Fate ever lost his temper in canon, and had a whimsical sense of humor to boot.

Which of course raises the question of what OL will do if Giovanni displays a similar level of hostility to him once the helmet's off.

We also never saw much of him in-canon.

Also, "becoming one" is arguably worse. Brainwashing much? At least if you get bodyjacked, you do not have to worry about your core personality changing.
 
Also the League Knows Paul hates the guy and by showing this bit of passive aggressive attack on him they actually have less reason to worry about what paul is planing.

When he makes some noise they "know" what paul is up to but when he's keeping quiet then they worry.

by doing this they think Paul will limit himself to making verbal pokes at Nabu, he even offers Nabu a new body so with the possible exception of batman most of the league don't know he's going to find a way to End nabu once and for all.
*nods* yeah, OL has made it clear that he doesn't like Nabu (primarily for body-jacking Mr Zatara), and Nabu has also made it clear that he dislikes OL (primarily for being Chaos aligned). Additionally, Nabu had been sniping at OL through out the presentation, refusing even the possibility of the golem body without even looking at the details. (If Nabu was more concerned with 'Good', then the possibility of having TWO mages on the League should have been worth a look). The idea of Paul verbally poking back is understandable and it's not like OL was vulgar, just sarcastic.

It probably caused one to show up. Klarion showed up shortly after the Justice Society exiled Mordru; and after Grayven kills Klarion Mordru shows up and tells him he was able to come back because Klarion is dead.

I suspect that killing Nabu will tilt that "cosmic balance" and allow another Lord of Order to enter the world in his place, or possibly allow some mage to ascend to the status of a Lord of Order.
Order Lords may go by 1/world but Chaos Lords don't seem to care. There's at least 3 on Earth 16 currently; Klarion (supervillain), Shade the Changing Man (nominally hero/neutral), and Shivering Jenny (neutral). The thing is that Lords of Chaos just don't cooperate much. From what Mordu said in Renegade-verse, Klarion may have subtly undermined Mordu (arranging for the portal to open, helping the Society find clues, etc) and then made it so that Mordu couldn't return while Klarion still lived. And I suspect the denial of access was specificly aimed at Mordu rather than other Chaos Lords (Maybe Klarion didn't like being second banana behind Mordu, who sounds to have more raw power than Klarion?)

As for Superman's cloning remark, well, OL was talking about 'making supers' and mentioned Lexcorp, it may have caused an impulsive reaction. Lexcorp + 'making a super' = kryptonian clones.

Not in canon. He said that becoming Doctor Fate involves "becoming one" with his host, and while in Giovanni's body was overprotective of Zatanna, albeit through a lens of Fate snootyness. In Zoats story it may be different, but it's starting to edge into character bashing.
Point, but how do we know Fate was telling the truth and not just saying that to placate the League?

Either way, I really have to wonder what Nabu's long term plans are. Soon or later, Giovanni's body is going to get old and give out/be severely wounded. Being known as a bodysnatcher isn't going to encourage a successor to take up the helmet rather than locking it away in a vault with a "Danger, do not wear, possessing entity" sign on it.
 
It probably caused one to show up. Klarion showed up shortly after the Justice Society exiled Mordru; and after Grayven kills Klarion Mordru shows up and tells him he was able to come back because Klarion is dead.

I suspect that killing Nabu will tilt that "cosmic balance" and allow another Lord of Order to enter the world in his place, or possibly allow some mage to ascend to the status of a Lord of Order.

Wasn't that the whole plan with the succubus demon? Wasn't Paul prepping her to become a lord of order, or am I just misremembering?
 
Nearly. Thank you for drawing it to my attention.
It's a bit nitpicky, but
"there are no clear recruitment criteria"
I think 'there is no clear criteria' is okay. Not completely sure.
I assume that amulet here refers to refers to the jewel in the centre of the ritual area? It wasn't an amulet in the show nor described as such in the episode in question.
Thank you, corrected.
pretty sure certificate isnt a verb
Pronounced certifikate. It means 'issue certificates to'. Meaning 6.
Also, Mr Zoat, there's a space between the end of Paul's first spoken sentence and the quotation mark that shouldn't be there.
Thank you, corrected.
In this case he can show some of his animosity because he's trying to point out how the league can be improved and he's trying to see if he can get the rest of the league to pull their heads out of their asses and resolve the Dr. Fate problem without O.L. using extreme sanction.
Persuading the League is one of the paths the game allows. Unfortunately in this playthrough I didn't think my character would be prepared to risk them saying 'no'.
Also the League Knows Paul hates the guy and by showing this bit of passive aggressive attack on him they actually have less reason to worry about what paul is planing.
A few members of the League know that his dislikes Nabu. Most of them aren't really aware of the relationship.
Having that hope thrown in his face by Nabu's dogged rejection of reasonable alternatives based on ideological rather than pragmatic grounds much informs some of Paul's current rage towards him.
Oh, the SI isn't angry. He's cool, calm and collected.
Does Batman know about the mice?
Which mice?
Not in canon. He said that becoming Doctor Fate involves "becoming one" with his host, and while in Giovanni's body was overprotective of Zatanna, albeit through a lens of Fate snootyness. In Zoats story it may be different, but it's starting to edge into character bashing.
That is very far from what we were shown. "I'm just an old coat Fate puts on."? And Wallace certainly didn't merge with anything. Nabu didn't get super speed and Wallace was reduced to spectator status.
Order Lords may go by 1/world but Chaos Lords don't seem to care. There's at least 3 on Earth 16 currently; Klarion (supervillain), Shade the Changing Man (nominally hero/neutral), and Shivering Jenny (neutral).
Shade isn't on Earth 16, though he can be reached from it. Shivering Jemmy isn't exactly a Chaos Lord. She's more of a Greater Daemon to their Daemon Prince.
Wasn't that the whole plan with the succubus demon? Wasn't Paul prepping her to become a lord of order, or am I just misremembering?
Misremembering.
 
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Wasn't that the whole plan with the succubus demon? Wasn't Paul prepping her to become a lord of order, or am I just misremembering?

What part of causing a creature that runs on the disorderly emotion of lust to run on the even more disorderly emotion of love sounds like prepping that creature for being a Lord of Order? No, Paul was just finding ways to get any old enemies of Constantine's out of the picture so that they wouldn't pull a highly inconvenient attack in the middle of trying to liberate Zatara, and the succubus just so happened to be one of those enemies.
 
You know, I recall reading somewhere that Nabu was part of the reason that magic didn't spread beyond a few mages and the Atlantian magical societies.

It was something about how the dispersal of magical knowledge would upset the world's order. I can't remember where I read that, but it seems very much in-character for him.
Other possible reasons for Nabu preventing the spread of magic:

=Wide-spread use of magic on a global scale might attract the wrong attention. Much like with spacefaring threats, Earth's greatest defense is the fact that most of the universe isn't aware of its existence and is dismissed as insignificant.

Dormammu: (salivating) "What a delicious looking world."
Trigon: :rage: "Back off, brah! I was here first!"

=Time is cyclical and alternates between ages of science and ages of magic, so OL trying to spread magic might cause the current Age of SCIENCE!!! to prematurely collapse. Ideally, the current age of science wouldn't end until after humanity had colonized several worlds, at which point they'd collapse into pre-industrial feudalism, forget their true history, embrace sorcery, and millennia later rediscover their long-lost 'cousins' who had been living on other planets.

=Atlanteans have institutionalized arcane education and have a system of checks and balances to minimize the inherent risks of people don't abuse their magic or fall into the dark arts, all made easier by their very small population size and the nature of their city-state governments. For the rest of the world, it'd take years if not decades to establish such an infrastructure, during which time all sorts of CHAOS might ensue.
 
The florescent tube on the ceiling blinks and splutters as we stand in the small corrugated iron warehouse. Solidly constructed shelving runs around three walls, separated from the area John and I are standing in by what looks like a fairly heavy duty ward drawn in white paint on the floor. The shelving is three levels high, though presently only a small part of the shelves to our right have anything on them.

"Look, mate… I don't think it's working."

Each dead mouse has a little Nabu helmet, and is positioned in a protective circle decorated with an ankh. The circles on each shelf are connected in serial by copper wires which then go down the supports at each end to the focal point: Nabu's skull.
 
The presence of red text says otherwise. While he is keeping a cool head, he is definitely dislikes Nabu's blatant refusal of his offers.
As I mentioned earlier, red doesn't necessarily mean 'anger'. In this case it means 'hate'. If he wasn't enlightened the SI would abandon all attempts to pursue goals other than Nabu's destruction. As it is, they'll probably only be token attempts.
Does Batman know about the mice?
The SI assumes not, and has taken reasonable precautions to ensure that is a correct assumption.
 
As I mentioned earlier, red doesn't necessarily mean 'anger'. In this case it means 'hate'. If he wasn't enlightened the SI would abandon all attempts to pursue goals other than Nabu's destruction. As it is, they'll probably only be token attempts.

My mistake then.
 
No he isn't. At all.
Clark only ever had an issue with being cloned and he does realise that he was wrong at the end of season 1. It is in fact a situation entirely created by OL that he and Conner never worked past their issues with each other (admittedly Conner no longer cares over much thanks to Diana) when he snapped at him and stopped his attempt at reconciling.
Sure, you might say he doesn't deserve the chance to reconcile with Conner but that was never OL's decision to make but Conner's.

Compared to the DCUA Superman who tried to keep Bizarro alive, and help the dumb brute to be happy? Yes YJ Superman is kind of a dick.

I can accept that Clark was scared or just did not want to deal with the situation, but by the time he decided to deal with it, it had been months.

By the way, will Batman get together with Selina Kyle in Renegade?
 
Compared to the DCUA Superman who tried to keep Bizarro alive, and help the dumb brute to be happy? Yes YJ Superman is kind of a dick.

I can accept that Clark was scared or just did not want to deal with the situation, but by the time he decided to deal with it, it had been months.
How much did we actually see of Superman though? In season one his only relevance and to the plot is his tension with Conner which we are biased against him for as he is not a main character and we naturally support someone we know better. In season two he gets along perfectly fine with Conner but we again only see him when he gets blown up trying to help the kroloteans and then he disappears due to a court hearing.

We see so little of him in the series we can't make such blanket statements, especially when half are deliberately focused around an extremely contentious issue.
 
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