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The SI has every tool he needs to take out Larfleeze before he's even aware of whats going on.
With This Ring (Young Justice SI) (Thread Twelve)
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Honey, this is Tuesday for the thread.
it's unlikely Paul will stumble across a solution for Alan as soon as he travels into the galaxy. AFAIK there are no Blue Lanterns yet, and neither Gathnet not the future-Saint Walker are likely to be in the vicinity of either Vega or Mathus.
the Reach are too large/spread out to have any measurable effect on the suffering they cause in a short time span. As you yourself point out, the Citadel is much easier/faster to deal with.
Who said anything about him traveling in a spaceship?
I don't recall that bit...Did Larfleeze trap her or was she already in the CPB when Larfleeze and friends stumbled across it?
That's because she's demonstrating Lust, not Love.
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I never, ever said that she was. And if Jade had made her decision at some other moment I might be more amicable to enjoying this moment.
You know what would fit the mirroring motif of these last chapters? Grayven's Dr. Fate elucidating on why his behavior was hypocritical. If you want to get romantic about it, I felt that Adom's troubles with Isis provided the mirror for Paul's side. Instead we got... this.
But yes, it does make a great deal of sense that someone who is willing and able to communicate and treat others with trust and respect is more likely to have a successful relationship. Which is exactly what Grayven did. It was pretty clear that if she'd ever asked about his plans for the League of Shadows he would have told her.
It was made pretty clear that he would have told her his plans if she'd asked about them, and it was an honest mistake that he assumed she already knew. Mistakes like that happen, it doesn't mean he wasn't treating her like an equal. In fact, prior to Grayven's blunder they were an amazing couple, and please don't try to invalidate their entire relationship just because the last few moments went poorly. He did treat her like an equal. His undercover work messed with things a lot, as they do, but she had for more equality in this relationship then any bond girl.
But when you put it like that, it does make more sense. The problem isn't that Grayven didn't talk about his plans with her. The problem is, he didn't talk about what would happen after. That is rather important, and he should have talked to her about what would happen after the Leagueof Shadows was disbanded. I can understand why he didn't; he is as oblivious as Paul, and probably assumed talking with her about what would happen after they were married counted as talking about what would happen after the Shadows were destroyed. But that is a more legitimate complaint, and does hint at something being wrong with their relationship. But only a hint.
And does that really sound like he's treating her as an equal? Paul treats Lex Luthor like more of an equal than Jade in Paragon. Yes, he has devoted a great amount of time into Jade, even making regularly scheduled visits to prison, whereas sometimes Grayven wouldn't speak to Jade for weeks due to their undercover work. But that doesn't mean Grayven hasn't devoted as much or more time into Jade. And he did it because he loved her, not because he was worried she'd go off the deep end if he stopped holding her hand.
I do apologize for the obnoxiousness. Zoat if you're reading this, I wasn't actually fantasizing your death, I just wanted to provoke a debate.
Because nobody's talking about this, and really, am I the only one who sees anything wrong here? Let's stop comparing Paragon to Renegade, (even though I think that's exactly what Zoat wanted when he sent a disrobing Jade in from out of nowhere so soon after the terrible Jade break-up) and look at Paragon for its own merits.
They are good friends, yes. But Jade is choosing now, after a murder plot and before he leaves the planet for a year to... well, since Paul is oblivious we don't have WoZ as to what she wants exactly, but we can be sure to call it an advancement on their relationship. If she's trying to form and actual romantic relationship, then she chose a terrible time for it. Just after most of his world was torn away, in fact. Just after he quit his job because he couldn't bear the chance of losing it. He's saying goodbye to all of his friends, and she decides that this is how she wants her goodbye to go?
And there wasn't even a hint of this beforehand. Not a single sideways glance to the possibility that Paragon Jade might be interested in her Paul for more than just friendship. Can anybody honestly say that they saw this coming? If we didn't have a Renegade relationship with Jade, would any of you have even considered that she might be main love interest in paragon? That is Katniss and Gale levels of awkward shipping.
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I discovered a bit of DC lore that I thought had interesting possibilities.
In a run of Doom Patrol, a possible origin of Earth and humanity was revealed- the Teiresiae. Whimsical fluid reality warpers attuned to Chaos, supposedly some of them said to themselves "Let's give this order thing a try, who needs nigh omnipotent powers when you can have a mortgage and 401K?" and so they shaped the Earth out of the primal chaos and then themselves into humanity.
Would explain a lot, now wouldn't it? Like why instead of a standard set of abilities DC humanity can potentially have any power under the sun. That would also explain human gadgeteering. Sensible tech trees are for those who aren't embodiments of chaos.
In a run of Doom Patrol, a possible origin of Earth and humanity was revealed- the Teiresiae. Whimsical fluid reality warpers attuned to Chaos, supposedly some of them said to themselves "Let's give this order thing a try, who needs nigh omnipotent powers when you can have a mortgage and 401K?" and so they shaped the Earth out of the primal chaos and then themselves into humanity.
Would explain a lot, now wouldn't it? Like why instead of a standard set of abilities DC humanity can potentially have any power under the sun. That would also explain human gadgeteering. Sensible tech trees are for those who aren't embodiments of chaos.
RichardWhereat
Feanor did nothing wrong.
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"Yeah, bite that pillow."
Emstar
The Shining One
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I self-identify with guacamole, thank you.
The colonials are still waking up.1
Also. just wait til what Paul does next.2
1. Source: Am colonial.
2. Found on QQ
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9-10 episodes of space before he returns to Earth, or 9-10 episodes in the time skip total?
Ganurath
Literal Enthusiast
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So long as Datcord has yet to discover this fic, the power of the chart is finite.
For those unfamiliar, Datcord is the patron saint of puerile giggling, innuendo, and spaghetti posts.
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It'd be funny that that Paul and Jade started a relation pretty much how they met, one of them in a chair while the other was getting used to the orange light, and asking the other if they want to get physicaly intimate.
" And that kids is how I met your mother, similarly to how you were conceived. "
And the running gag is Paul mentioning the various female characters he met and tried having a romantic relationship with but some how getting or missing important signals.
" And that kids is how I met your mother, similarly to how you were conceived. "
And the running gag is Paul mentioning the various female characters he met and tried having a romantic relationship with but some how getting or missing important signals.
RichardWhereat
Feanor did nothing wrong.
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Oh, shit. Obviously the next chapter will be on QuestionablyQuesting, where pauls first line will be "I've seen this movie, it doesn't end well for the asian chick." And then summons tentacles.
Bitch, it's 2348, the colonials are going to sleep.
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Emstar
The Shining One
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Depends on which colony.
GhostKing 666
Bringing Nightmares to life evey minute
Ok I don't know why this is an issue because it got talked about in the story in part of the Renegade sections but all New Gods are not created equal. Yeah Greyven's strength and durability originated from the venombuster formula, and then he turned himself into the New God of Conquest and had said strength and durability enhanced as it was part of his portfolio. Some New Gods can be effected by conventional human weapons(like Mister Free or Artemis) because their god hood does not include super durability in their portfolios, others do have super durability(like Big Barda, Orion and Kalibak) and thus aren't effected by conventional human weapons, it all depends on the god.
Now onto Darkseid, does he have super strength and durability? Yes, as others have pointed out Darkseid has always been strong and tough enough to go toe to toe with superman even without his Omega Effect and the Anti-Life Equation, normal conventional human weapons would do dick all to him. The thing about that time where Batman shoots him with a gun and nearly kills him? Batman shot Darkseid with a radion bullet, and radion has always been New God kryptonite. Had it been a conventional bullet made of lead it wouldn't have done shit to Darkseid but because it was made of radion, Darkseid's invulnerability didn't work, much like how superman's invulnerability doesn't work when you shoot him with a kryptonite bullet.
Hestia&theCourt
Turns out we're plural too.
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...whaaaaat.
Dude, are you blind?
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Is this a typo? Because he doesnt sound panicky from the context of the sentence.
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If Renegade ever finds out he may just have an aneurism...
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Nine or ten episodes of him doing stuff in space.
Heh. I'm in the "Renegade was sending extremely mixed messages, a backstory that made no sense and she could realize that, along with some unfortunate bits (see the Life=Pain chapter, even if exaggerated by his current state at the time) and a tendency to not bring up major life changes in front of her (Lynne)" camp. Also throw her still being full villain combined with Grayven's epic fail with saying "the League" and things went full communication epic fail.
In other words, everyone who presumed Renegade was better at communicating romantically may be wrong. Paul SI sucks at romance, no matter the version. (Specifying SI to avoid accidentally insulting the author.)
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No, no, I probably suck at it too. I mean, I wouldn't know for sure...
Empiricist2
Let's play doctor!
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It sounded like he had just left his talks with Alan and Rob and was going to talk to M'gann and Kon after this, but Zoat said that he will be talking to Alan the update after tomorrow's.
Huh? Grayven said yesterday that Darkseid was both stronger and tougher than himself.
I was saying that because Grayven is barely even affected by normal human weapons, there is no possibility of Darkseid being in any way vulnerable to them.
I do admit that the Diana comment was a bit of a non sequitur.
In order for Darkseid to have become a large threat, one that people actually fear, he would need to first be personally powerful enough that some human thugs couldn't knock him out with a chain. The Guardians were demigods not to be messed with even before they made the most powerful police force in the galaxy.
Even aside from Larfleeze, the Controllers would know power ring technology very well. There's lots of things that the SI hasn't been able to do because of his lack of information about how his ring works, and the Controllers are the only ones that even might help him in that regard. The Guardians and Zamarons certainly won't.
Additional point of order: Jade is propositioning sex, not necessarily a relationship. Her line at the end is in orange, not violet.
I thought he was planning to get a Controller to make a green personal lantern for Alan.
He's had a long and tiring day.
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That was the original plan. It's become less likely over time that this solution will actually work though.
If the Controllers could just make Power Batteries of any Color then why do they need the OCPB?
Kinda got me thinking on the requirements needed to make a Personal Lantern of a specific Color. I'm leaning towards needing to have the CPB of a Color in order to make Power Rings and Personal Lanterns. FAQ states that Rings are forged with great skill and experience in the particular emotional color. The CPB in proximity or as a connection is required too. Probably.
Maybe not Power Rings but definitely Personal Lanterns. At least I think so.
And Only one CPB of a Color can exist at a time. Probably would explode if two existed at once on a huge scale. Explode eventually at least.
Before anyone mentions Paul Lantern that Alan gave him that gets into Assimilation and changing the connection point to the Emotional Spectrum Dimension of whatever its called. Not forging a whole new Lantern.
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Yep; there's been PLENTY of evidence across the fic.
And now something is finally happening!
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