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Random thought, but well aside from linguistic reasonings or how appropriate to Mathilde herself such a title is... I just find it extraordinarily hilarious that the ruler of bloody Sylvania is being called Edge-Lord. I would be amazed if Boney didn't know exactly what he was doing there.
 
There's probably quite a few people who have more knowledge and insight than us when it comes to the actions Skaven tend to take in the Empire and the ways they tend to use to contact and corrupt Empire citizen. In the Karaz Ankor the Skaven do no more than attack, raid, sabotage, scout and surveil. Among each other they can act to the full extent allowed by Skaven amoral society. Non-violent Skaven/Human interaction is something Mathilde only knows what she read in her extensive and esoteric Imperial and extensive Bretonnian book collection.
But none with more experience in:
1) Reading Queekish
2) Outright combat with Skaven, like that which has recently been provoked
3) Interrogating Skaven prisoners
4) Skaven psychology in general

And Mathilde will certainly be entitled to have a staff, not do everything alone.
 
Waystone Project means elves and dwarves in the same room.

We need all our diplomacy to not end that with a shaved beard and grudges without any further complications.
if we do waystone (and seems likely at the moment) we can do what zoos do when introducing tigers and other big cats.

keep a fence between them until they can tolerate the other one being there.
 
[ ] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
What better way to do that than for you to travel it and solve all their strangest problems? It would also mean getting to see every corner of the Dwarven world and encounter all the strangest phenomenon it would have to offer.
Remains very tempting. I still want to locate Karak Zorn.

[ ] The Waystone Project
We've got orders from our college head regarding this.

[ ] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
It's tempting, and I'd like being able to add the title to our list.

[ ] Spymaster of Wissenland
We should investigate this, on account of precog worrying me regarding possible Skaven attacks.

[ ] Governor-General of Swamp Town
I want to know why the offer exists for this one.
 
[] Sinecure
The first possibility, of course, is that you accept the current status quo as a reward for your hard work, rather than a deficiency to be addressed. Belegar will keep finding ways to make use of your talents, and you'll have time and resources enough for your pet projects, as well as still being on hand should something go drastically wrong and need correcting.

[] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
Or you could push Belegar to continue sending you afield. He does want to continue to enhance the stature of Karak Eight Peaks in the Karaz Ankor, and what better way to do that than for you to travel it and solve all their strangest problems? It would also mean getting to see every corner of the Dwarven world and encounter all the strangest phenomenon it would have to offer.

[X] The Waystone Project
Or you could turn to the biggest possible project you could pursue. The Laurelorn Elves have voiced their desire to work with you to unravel as many secrets as possible about the network in the slightly inaccurate belief that you already have some of those secrets. This might be the only chance to pool the knowledge of the Laurelorn, the Empire, and the Karaz Ankor, and for a project that could do wonderful things. Sure, you doubt you'll be able to replicate the combined efforts of the Elves and Dwarves at their heights, but every scrap of understanding of the existing network could make all three peoples better able to protect and make use of the ancient energy streams.

[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
A Markgraf exists to transform troublesome land into a land of productive and obedient tax-payers, usually after said land has been conquered. Historically, it also apparently exists to create rivals to the Elector Count that appointed them, which is probably why the letter made it so clear that no inheritable position would accompany the title of Markgraf. It still remains a position of extreme power, prestige, and influence, second only to the Elector Counts themselves. And it would be quite a feather in your cap if you could one day boast to have pacified Sylvania.

[X] Count of Sylvania
Or you could go even further with House Weber and turn them - well, turn you - into proper aristocracy. One slice of Sylvania would be significantly easier to pacify than its entirety, and rulership in this corner of the world seems to have worked out quite well for the former Countess of Nachthafen.

[] Spymaster of Wissenland
Grand Count Konstantin von Liebwitz of Wissenland is known to be quite touchy about his independence, so when you spread word that the Skaven were in a civil war, he lead the forces of his county against the Skaven stronghold of Under-Nuln without any outside assistance except a single Dwarven diplomat. It went rather poorly, as the Civil War had already been decided there and what he had taken for continued fighting was mere squabbling over the spoils. Reading between the lines of the offer, it seems that there may be further consequences for that failed attack, and Wissenland wants your help to avert them.

[] Ambassador-at-Large to the Karaz Ankor
An Ambassador is appointed to a single polity, whereas an Ambassador-at-Large has broader rights for many more places. In this case, for the entire Karaz Ankor. A prestigious and important position, and one that might be a stepping stone into even greater positions within the administrative infrastructure of the Empire. You may not be quite as diplomatic as other candidates might be, but you pride yourself on your understanding of Dwarves and your reputation amongst them is, to put it mildly, rather good.

[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
Though the offer came through the Chamberlain of the Imperial House, this has Heidi's fingerprints all over it. You're not sure if the offer is for exactly what it says or as a cover for beings her catspaw as she plays politics, but either way it would be a position extremely close to the levers of power, and one that would let you have a huge amount of influence over the likely future Emperor.

[] Governor-General of Swamp Town
This one is an oddity. The others, you can follow the logic as to why it was offered to you, specifically. But why Swamp Town? Are things there so drastic they need a powerful Wizard to get it under control? Is something particularly magical going on there? Has it become a haven for Black Magisters? Whatever the case, if you want mysteries and adventure, there's few places like the New World for encountering both on a regular basis.

[] Ranaldian High Priest of Kislev
Another one from Heidi, this one more directly. This is a wheel you set in motion yourself, and perhaps it's suitable that you follow it through to the end, resolve the grudge between Ranald and the Gods of Kislev, and establish the worship of your oldest friend in a new land. You did leave quite a few mysteries behind in and around Kislev that you'd quite like to get to the bottom of, and it would be fun to have the undeniable right to attend future Grand Conclaves.

[X] Border Princess of the Howling River
With Karak Vlag returned, the only pass through the World's Edge Mountains that is not dominated by an existing Dwarfhold is Mad Dog Pass. It seems that Barak Varr wants to change that. Many have tried to make something useful of the sprawling, anarchic lands known as the Border Princes over the year, and one of the few times it was managed was almost two thousand years ago, when Emperor Sigismund the Conquerer established the province of Lichtenberg. With Dwarven support, perhaps you can follow in his footsteps.

[] Nagarythe
For delivering a Druchii that had been working with Clan Moulder to the Nagarythian Ulthuan Ambassador, you were given a token that will allow you to live and fight alongside them for ninety-nine days. There's no time limit on it except for your lifespan, all you have to do is arrive in Lothern and present the token. You did just complete quite an adventure, but perhaps that whetted your appetite enough for another.

[X] Research Sabbatical
You can't deny that your research projects have been piling up, and it might be nice to take some time off to concentrate on getting through those. But it would mean no immediate challenges to keep you engaged, no employer resources to draw on, and no payroll to keep the Wizards you've gotten used to working with around and focused.
 
I suspect a fair few people skimmed the author's note and are treating it like an actual binding vote. Also, many other quests don't allow you to vote for more than one thing, so that's a habit people develop too.
You know, I keep seeing people saying this, but I've been on SV for, like, five years now, and have yet to see such a policy on any quests beyond very specific, binary votes that don't have much room for creativity. Am I just lucky?
 
Well, the three first places seem set in stone, but the other ones are really, really close...

I wonder where Boney will place the line though... I hope that it is a generous number and that we can take a look at most of them though...
Adhoc vote count started by Fanhunter696 on Feb 24, 2021 at 1:29 PM, finished with 476 posts and 198 votes.
 
[X] The Waystone Project
[X] Border Princess of the Howling River
[X] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[X] Ranaldian High Priest of Kislev
 
The above of course ignores the possibility that BoneyM introduces some non-obvious mechanism or complication in order to keep the Quest interesting enough for everyone involved even if we go down this path.
I am gonna venture the speculation that if Boney has the concern that the status quo of the quest will be boring, and has given a list of possible new things to do, this heavily implies that our good QM has ideas for how to use each of the new things to tell interesting stories.
[ ] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
What better way to do that than for you to travel it and solve all their strangest problems? It would also mean getting to see every corner of the Dwarven world and encounter all the strangest phenomenon it would have to offer.
Remains very tempting. I still want to locate Karak Zorn.

[ ] The Waystone Project
We've got orders from our college head regarding this.

[ ] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
It's tempting, and I'd like being able to add the title to our list.

[ ] Spymaster of Wissenland
We should investigate this, on account of precog worrying me regarding possible Skaven attacks.

[ ] Governor-General of Swamp Town
I want to know why the offer exists for this one.
My guy from my place, you might wanna put Xs in those.
You know, I keep seeing people saying this, but I've been on SV for, like, five years now, and have yet to see such a policy on any quests beyond very specific, binary votes that don't have much room for creativity. Am I just lucky?
Just to name one off the top of my head, Drunken Dynasty explicitly forbids approval voting.
 
This quest is way to fast for me to vote regularly, but I'll throw in my thoughts on this vote at least. The two things I'm sure of, is that I don't want to go back to Sylvania and that I'm ready to leave our research hidey-hole in 8-peaks. Our time as a lore master is done, let's move on to a new adventure.

[X] Spymaster of Wissenland
I'd like to go back to our roots and play the role of spymaster again, and messing with the skaven is awalys fun. But I don't expect this option to gain much traction.

[X] Governor-General of Swamp Town
This one is a mystery! I doubt many people are interested but I at least want to see where it leads.

[X] Ranaldian High Priest of Kislev
It could be fun to mess around with theological nonsense some more.
 
I really liked the thing we did with the romance vote where we looked at all of the serious contenders before making any decisions, and I really think we should do the same here. Even if we don't want to, say hang out in the New World, I'm very much of the opinion that the scene in which we try and figure out what exactly the job entails and why we're being considered for it is absolutely worth having - and so on for every other option here.

So, uh, I'm just gonna approval vote for everything.

[x] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[x] The Waystone Project
[x] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[x] Count of Sylvania
[x] Spymaster of Wissenland
[x] Ambassador-at-Large to the Karaz Ankor
[x] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[x] Governor-General of Swamp Town
[x] Ranaldian High Priest of Kislev
[x] Border Princess of the Howling River
[x] Naggarythe
[x] Research Sabbatical
 
[X] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[X] Governor-General of Swamp Town
This one is an oddity. The others, you can follow the logic as to why it was offered to you, specifically. But why Swamp Town? Are things there so drastic they need a powerful Wizard to get it under control? Is something particularly magical going on there? Has it become a haven for Black Magisters? Whatever the case, if you want mysteries and adventure, there's few places like the New World for encountering both on a regular basis.
[X] Ranaldian High Priest of Kislev
[X] The Waystone Project

These are most interesting to me.

Still on team research sabbatical first though.
 
I really liked the thing we did with the romance vote where we looked at all of the serious contenders before making any decisions, and I really think we should do the same here. Even if we don't want to, say hang out in the New World, I'm very much of the opinion that the scene in which we try and figure out what exactly the job entails and why we're being considered for it is absolutely worth having - and so on for every other option here.

So, uh, I'm just gonna approval vote for everything.

[x] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
[x] The Waystone Project
[x] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[x] Count of Sylvania
[x] Spymaster of Wissenland
[x] Ambassador-at-Large to the Karaz Ankor
[x] Bodyguard and Tutor to Prince Mandred
[x] Governor-General of Swamp Town
[x] Ranaldian High Priest of Kislev
[x] Border Princess of the Howling River
[x] Naggarythe
[x] Research Sabbatical
you can do as you like.

but that's mathematically the same as not voting.

even just leaving out 1 that you like least will have an effect.
 
[X] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
Or you could push Belegar to continue sending you afield. He does want to continue to enhance the stature of Karak Eight Peaks in the Karaz Ankor, and what better way to do that than for you to travel it and solve all their strangest problems? It would also mean getting to see every corner of the Dwarven world and encounter all the strangest phenomenon it would have to offer.

[X] The Waystone Project
Or you could turn to the biggest possible project. on your plate. The Laurelorn Elves have voiced their desire to work with you to unravel as many secrets as possible about the network in the slightly inaccurate belief that you already have some of those secrets. This might be the only chance to pool the knowledge of the Laurelorn, the Empire, and the Karaz Ankor, and for a project that could do wonderful things. Sure, you doubt you'll be able to replicate the combined efforts of the Elves and Dwarves at their heights, but every scrap of understanding of the existing network could make all three peoples better able to protect and make use of the ancient energy streams.

[X] Ambassador-at-Large to the Karaz Ankor
An Ambassador is appointed to a single polity, whereas an Ambassador-at-Large has broader rights for many more places. In this case, for the entire Karaz Ankor. A prestigious and important position, and one that might be a stepping stone into even greater positions within the administrative infrastructure of the Empire. You may not be quite as diplomatic as other candidates might be, but you pride yourself on your understanding of Dwarves and your reputation amongst them is, to put it mildly, rather good.


[X] Border Princess of the Howling River
With Karak Vlag returned, the only pass through the World's Edge Mountains that is not dominated by an existing Dwarfhold is Mad Dog Pass. It seems that Barak Varr wants to change that. Many have tried to make something useful of the sprawling, anarchic lands known as the Border Princes over the year, and one of the few times it was managed was almost two thousand years ago, when Emperor Sigismund the Conquerer established the province of Lichtenberg. With Dwarven support, perhaps you can follow in his footsteps.

[X] Nagarythe
For delivering a Druchii that had been working with Clan Moulder to the Nagarythian Ulthuan Ambassador, you were given a token that will allow you to live and fight alongside them for ninety-nine days. There's no time limit on it except for your lifespan, all you have to do is arrive in Lothern and present the token. You did just complete quite an adventure, but perhaps that whetted your appetite enough for another.
 
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[ ] Loremaster-at-Large of Karak Eight Peaks
Or you could push Belegar to continue sending you afield. He does want to continue to enhance the stature of Karak Eight Peaks in the Karaz Ankor, and what better way to do that than for you to travel it and solve all their strangest problems? It would also mean getting to see every corner of the Dwarven world and encounter all the strangest phenomenon it would have to offer.

[ ] The Waystone Project
Or you could turn to the biggest possible project. on your plate. The Laurelorn Elves have voiced their desire to work with you to unravel as many secrets as possible about the network in the slightly inaccurate belief that you already have some of those secrets. This might be the only chance to pool the knowledge of the Laurelorn, the Empire, and the Karaz Ankor, and for a project that could do wonderful things. Sure, you doubt you'll be able to replicate the combined efforts of the Elves and Dwarves at their heights, but every scrap of understanding of the existing network could make all three peoples better able to protect and make use of the ancient energy streams.

[ ] Ambassador-at-Large to the Karaz Ankor
An Ambassador is appointed to a single polity, whereas an Ambassador-at-Large has broader rights for many more places. In this case, for the entire Karaz Ankor. A prestigious and important position, and one that might be a stepping stone into even greater positions within the administrative infrastructure of the Empire. You may not be quite as diplomatic as other candidates might be, but you pride yourself on your understanding of Dwarves and your reputation amongst them is, to put it mildly, rather good.


[ ] Border Princess of the Howling River
With Karak Vlag returned, the only pass through the World's Edge Mountains that is not dominated by an existing Dwarfhold is Mad Dog Pass. It seems that Barak Varr wants to change that. Many have tried to make something useful of the sprawling, anarchic lands known as the Border Princes over the year, and one of the few times it was managed was almost two thousand years ago, when Emperor Sigismund the Conquerer established the province of Lichtenberg. With Dwarven support, perhaps you can follow in his footsteps.

[-] Nagarythe
For delivering a Druchii that had been working with Clan Moulder to the Nagarythian Ulthuan Ambassador, you were given a token that will allow you to live and fight alongside them for ninety-nine days. There's no time limit on it except for your lifespan, all you have to do is arrive in Lothern and present the token. You did just complete quite an adventure, but perhaps that whetted your appetite enough for another.
you need to add an X in the brackets for the vote counter to work.
 
I am gonna venture the speculation that if Boney has the concern that the status quo of the quest will be boring, and has given a list of possible new things to do, this heavily implies that our good QM has ideas for how to use each of the new things to tell interesting stories.


I'd like to dispute this, that isn't an assertion that BoneyM has made, otherwise Sinecure wouldn't be an option. The issue with the status quo isn't to do with being boring it's that Belegar literally has run out of tasks that are relevant to K8P for a lore master with Mathildes skill set. That's why the wider troubleshooter position exists and the sinecure option also exists. Also have to admit I'm sort of dreading the outcome of the next vote because I really don't want to leave K8p Behind and it looks like we might.
 
I think this should do for now. Most of all, I want to stay near Vala Azril Ungol, or at least close enough for weekend visits (so, Stirland. If we could have made a relationship work with Anton while we were Loremaster, and did keep up contact with friends in Stirland, we can do it the other way around).

And also, getting that elfcation cleared away in between seems like an excellent short sabbatical.

[x] The Waystone Project
[x] Nagarythe
[x] Markgraf of Eastern Stirland
[x] Count of Sylvania
[x] Border Princess of the Howling River
 
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