I'm not sure if it counts as 'experiment using magic' but can Mathilde further observe and get more data on the divine magic replacing the rock with sand?
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I'm enjoying CSI: Chaos Wastes, by the way.
All the hedging with 'but its the Chaos Wastes so *throws up hands*' is great.
All the hedging with 'but its the Chaos Wastes so *throws up hands*' is great.
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Okay, that's a big clue.
Non-Chaos divine magic used by Dwarves? Something's new and interesting.
Attempting to scientifically measure the Gods has a universal response of 'fuck no' from the Cults.
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Hmm. I think I'd still want to know if the answer to the question would be the same for each of those temperature ranges, or different. It doesn't necessarily tell us anything here, but it might be something worth having for reference if we do wind up scouting the forest itself ourselves.
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Right, I should've expected that, sorry.
Hmm. I guess, then, take the more socially acceptable way to do it: Just ask everyone with strong beliefs to ask their gods if they did it.
It will? I thought the implication was that the desert was weird Chaos Waste shenanigans, and the Karak (and it's forest) is shrinking. It was a mountain range after-all, now it's just a mountain, and losing approximately 6 inches a day for 200 years would have accounted for that. If things don't change, Chaos Dwarves or not, the Karak won't be anyone's problem in a century or two.
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The less-chaotic desert is growing, and the "sound" of dhar is dipping, but so slowly it can't be registered. Like a finite number being subtracted from infinity. They've...what, inverted the rune of Valaya? I don't think just turning it to Valaya's Vengeance would do this; this effect is growing. Divine magic doing the purifying says it almost certainly has to do with that rune, though. My guess is they're trying to kill the Chaos Wastes. No wonder the local tribe has fallen from favor/thinks they have; Karag Dum is literally undoing the "blessings" laden on the chaos wastes, and they cant stop it.
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Technically, what we know currently is "non-Chaos divine magic occurring in the vicinity of dwarves". It may sound nitpicky but inferring a causal or deliberate relationship where one may or may not exist is the kind of thing that can lead us down erroneous paths.
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Hmm, just to get a sense of Mathilde's sensory fidelity when it comes to divine energies - is she able to tell that this is/isn't Ranald's energy, or is all divine energy roughly equivalent to her senses?
That's called Runes. They are divine magic, always have been. They just aren't normally detectable, but then they don't normally do this kind of stuff either.
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The desert is expanding on the outside of the crater. We have no information on whatever interaction may or may not be occurring at the edge of the forest.
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Clearly we can just toss things into the desert without them being converted to sand. Unless it's just rocks? Anyone have uh, a spare rock they wanna volunteer to see if it gets turned to sand?
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If it's non-Chaos divine...I want to ask if we've talked to Johann and see if he recognizes anything given his conversion and experience witnessing the Ancestors because it's the most logical divine responsible but it seems too obvious to have not been done already. And I'm not sure it's safe with Morghur around if he is unable to compare it without magesight.
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On the rock to sand conversion,
If we take a partially converted rock from the edge does it still convert over time?
If we take a rock from further out and move it to the edge does it start getting converted?
If we take a rock which we brought with the expedition is geologically alien to the area and put it at the edge does it get converted? Normally it'd be ridiculous to ask if we lugged rocks all the way from Karag Dum but these are Dwarves, I would not at all be surprised if one of them brought a ruck collection is a memento, brought a rock as a lucky charm, or brought a rock from Vlag.
If we take a partially converted rock from the edge does it still convert over time?
If we take a rock from further out and move it to the edge does it start getting converted?
If we take a rock which we brought with the expedition is geologically alien to the area and put it at the edge does it get converted? Normally it'd be ridiculous to ask if we lugged rocks all the way from Karag Dum but these are Dwarves, I would not at all be surprised if one of them brought a ruck collection is a memento, brought a rock as a lucky charm, or brought a rock from Vlag.
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The posts are coming pretty fast, but the QM already confirmed it doesn't look the same as when runes activate: Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest Fantasy
...Did they do what Chaos Dwarves did but with an order god?
Not sure what would fit, forests could be Wood Elf stuff like people suggested or something like Taal or Ulric or one of the lesser Kislev gods, but then desert..?
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You remember what Cyrston said. "Anywhere in the northern Empire with that sort of sand?"
"Nowhere near. All I know of that would is the southern Dark Lands, Araby, and Nehekhara."
There's no other data to gather. Mathilde has no implements or techniques for measuring Divine magic.
Mathilde knows that temperature range. The temperature at the lip of the crater would not be out of place in the northern Empire.
She'd recognize it if it was Ranald, Gork, or Mork.
Around what time is it again? Snorri mentions campfires, but I don't think it's evening yet.
Because I'm thinking we could maybe wait until nightfall. The desert air is pretty hot right now, and I'm not sure if deserts in this planet work the same way, but if the air temperature rapidly cools as nightfall comes (which happen in IRL deserts iirc) then that may lend credence to the transplanted space theory.