Projectile
Thinking of Rabbits
- Location
- USA
Good that we know not to go haring off after Marienburg- that's the most important result, with the tension of that situation.
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NuclearConsensus
Herald of the Thorned One
- Location
- the Philippines
I wonder if perhaps the blackpowder was looted instead of bought, perhaps from the assaults made by the Empire and Bretonnia?
So probably Skaven then, though I do have to wonder whether it was a target of opportunity or something more.
There is also a chance someone got their hands on their gunpowder and used it for this, Skaven gunpowder is probably good quality as well as being an excellent false lead if you happen to have it. And with the Civil War and surface assaults there could totally be barrels of it running around.
There is also a chance someone got their hands on their gunpowder and used it for this, Skaven gunpowder is probably good quality as well as being an excellent false lead if you happen to have it. And with the Civil War and surface assaults there could totally be barrels of it running around.
Asheram
Not quite altogether
- Location
- Δ Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground
90% of inventing is knowing that something can happen, the 10% is just figuring out how to do it.
Suddenly Dawi sea mines are much more plausible
Holy fudge... That's... if, and that's a very big if, Marienburg was behind this then they had Skaven contacts, and normally that would be enough for a crusade.
But the alternative is that this might be Skaven running a false flag. We took out some of them in a civil war, and it sounds like they're attempting to take out some of ours.
Anyhow, I'm very happy we got around to search the shoreline.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Could be Chaos Dwarves too - I imagine that Gunpower mixed with Dark Magic is well within their abilities, and it's not inconceivable that they might trade with Skaven for their stuff.
That said, this does take the blame off of Marienburg unless they've really gone off the deep end.
That said, this does take the blame off of Marienburg unless they've really gone off the deep end.
So it was Skaven all along. Not entirely unexpected, considering the hit they received by losing K8P.
Sir_Travelsalot
Never wakes up tired.
- Location
- At Home
The Badlands do flood quite frequently. It's one of the reasons alongside earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and abysmal soil quality that makes it incredibly unattractive for inhabitation even without the hordes of Greenskins running amok.
- Location
- Finland
So skaven, possibly.
Not one of the more high tech ideas to do the damage, easily within marienburg (or empire) tech level.
How likely would humans be buying gunpowder from skaven? Going to say not very.
if we can find those musket shots, then we might be able to use them and the barrel pieces to track where they came from and from who, and then use that to track who did the deed.
also happy we did not find go after the "bandits", i would not want to fight a group of potential skaven when that tired, no telling what kind of shit they would have with them.
Not one of the more high tech ideas to do the damage, easily within marienburg (or empire) tech level.
How likely would humans be buying gunpowder from skaven? Going to say not very.
if we can find those musket shots, then we might be able to use them and the barrel pieces to track where they came from and from who, and then use that to track who did the deed.
also happy we did not find go after the "bandits", i would not want to fight a group of potential skaven when that tired, no telling what kind of shit they would have with them.
I mean, sure hiring skaven to do your dirty work is pretty risky, but it doesn't actually take that long and the risk is less in them not killing the dwarves you want dead and more about having to deal with the inevitable attempt to backstab you at some point.
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
I think Hammerers should be capitalized here?
I don't think this is someone trying to make it look like skaven, for the simple reason that the only evidence that it was skaven comes from a trace bit of Dhar picked up by really good Windsight. Someone trying to frame the skaven would have included clues much easier to find.
Doesn't guarantee that it was skaven, of course -- it could still be someone else who obtained skaven blackpowder somehow -- but if you're doing a false flag, you don't want your target to miss the false flag.
Looks like at least Johann is getting pulled off expedition prep to poke at the metal we found. I look forward to seeing Max's action list and seeing what he might be able to contribute.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
- Location
- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
I meant some non-skaven faction playing around with warpstone blackpowder, actually.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Clan Eshin, yes-yes.
Ranald told us.
Ranald told us.
Enthusiast#117
This is not the Profile you are looking for
- Location
- United States
Well I'm satisfied.
We contributed a whole lot, backing up Belegar's position on keeping us around.
Gathering clues only we would see, rescuing lots of dwarves.
Knowing Skaven were involved is going to be important, I suspect.
We contributed a whole lot, backing up Belegar's position on keeping us around.
Gathering clues only we would see, rescuing lots of dwarves.
Knowing Skaven were involved is going to be important, I suspect.
- Location
- Finland
I don't think we can rule out anyone yet.
Sure, i have gone from "probably Marienburg" to "probably skaven", but we need (and thanks to searching, can find) more evidence.
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- Location
- France
It takes a certain kind of madness to use Skaven gunpowder, even with the Skaven knowledge on how to use warpstone "safely".
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
The thing I'm wondering is, who would benefit from blaming the Skaven? We already hate them enough that diplomatic talks aren't even possible.
Scapegoating Marienburg makes sense, it would cause the Dawi to expend immense resources fighting a battle they otherwise wouldn't, against a force that ultimately is on the side of Order. Pretty much any foe of the Dwarves would want to make that deal.
But the Skaven? All you're getting out of it is that the dwarves aren't looking for you and scapegoating literally any faction could do that. And you could get the same result by "just" hiding your trail well enough.
So I'm relatively sure that this is either the work of Skaven or from someone who relied on Skaven technology blowing up (which is always a good bet).
Scapegoating Marienburg makes sense, it would cause the Dawi to expend immense resources fighting a battle they otherwise wouldn't, against a force that ultimately is on the side of Order. Pretty much any foe of the Dwarves would want to make that deal.
But the Skaven? All you're getting out of it is that the dwarves aren't looking for you and scapegoating literally any faction could do that. And you could get the same result by "just" hiding your trail well enough.
So I'm relatively sure that this is either the work of Skaven or from someone who relied on Skaven technology blowing up (which is always a good bet).
The Phoenixian
The Glacier Witch
- Location
- My own little world
Keep in mind that this is two points of evidence now: Not just the warpstone blackpowder in the mine, but also the talk of there being possible bio-warfare during the social update.
At this point this is either someone framing the Skaven (very unlikely, since I doubt they would have been able to count on us looking at the bomb that closely) or the Skaven actively cooperating with whoever did it. At the most removed, they sold the opposing faction weapons and assistance, At the most involved, they themselves were the perpetrator.
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Ahhh Skaven, one of out top suspects so it's not that much of a surprise (assuming they were actually behind it, it could be Marienburg or another faction trying to pin it on the Skaven). We should definitely pass on this message to the Witch Hunters looking into the disease outbreak.
Given the trigger mechanism, the location, the warpstone powder I'm inclined to believe this was indeed Skaven. With any luck we can find the ones who fired upon the vessel for further clues.
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- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Stab.
Twiiiiiiiiist.
On the other hand, "I don't think I'm about to pass out and drown in four inches of mud" is the sort of statement that makes me feel very good about taking a breather.
*Yosemite Sam grumbling*
Huh. Genuinely wasn't expecting that. How does a giant rat go about hiring human bandits, I wonder.
Oh yeah, I got that.
I was just making some dumb joke about how the best way to frame the skaven for a crime is to ask the skaven to commit said crime.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
- Location
- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
The dice always know! Iä! Iä! Roll table fhtagn!
- Location
- being near locations is my passion.
I dunnno why, but this chapter was just... amazing.
Maybe I really like Detective!Mathilde (Deerstalker hat!)
Anyway, for the sake of my curiosity, and if it's not spoilery now, would you mind telling us what the odds of a Goblin attack were?
Ideas:
Short human with hooded robes and an odd verbal tick.
Totally broken human slave that's trained as a middle-man
Dead-drops and the such, if there is already a link set up
The Slann, somehow.
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- Location
- Finland
The dice always know.
But sometimes they lie to us for their own amusement.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
- Location
- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
Not to mention that Mathilde literally passed out almost the moment she climbed onto the gyrocopter. She was definitely pushing her limits, there.