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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Ericwinter said:
Except if they're built in the mono-wind areas they're not in the city? Unless the Ambers have their special, unique College area in a place they can't and won't go to for using magic. Which just plain doesn't make sense. If I recall from when we got the dragon stone, we met the LM in a simple tower they use for dealing with other people occasionally, but the actual College Campus is supposed to be somewhere outside the walls.
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Not really. Entire Altdorf was charged magically by Teclis to create collages. Check out the Wiki page of Collages of Magic. It mentions riots in Altdorf because people couldn't really navigate like they used to and had to keep watch on Landmarks rather counting turns and like.

So Collages are in the cities. Ambers just don't like to be in any city so they keep out as much as they can but they still have their monowind area in the town. In fact if you look at the map of Altdorf collages are all over the place rather than together.
 
Alratan said:
For Mathilde personally, I'm hoping the Shadow Warriors have their own Ulgu using magical tradition we can learn, and probably some advanced 'mundane' skills. That's one of the reasons to exhaust what the dwarves and Grey College can teach us in those fields before going, to demonstrate that we're ready for the elven teaching and be in the best place to exploit it.
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Almost certainly. Back when we got the invite, he basically said "We've got our own mages. Not as popular, but they'd suit you better"
storryeater said:
"The wolf of Wall Street the burgher cities"
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TotallyNotEvil said:
Anything that increases the chance of time traveling hit-students is a plus. We can grill them for not only the method for time travel, but scientific and magical discoveries of the future!

Name them all after ourselves, and feed the cycle.
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But they'll probably only know things named after us, that's what kicked it off.
FallenPears said:
The slight problem with the M.A.T.H.I.L.D.Es is they are rooms, so if they're called that you know Mathilde's name will be used by apprentices in lewd puns upon 'entering Mathilde' from now until the End Times.

Do I still think it's worth it? Absolutely, but it is something to consider.
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If they have the guts to make dirty jokes about a Grey Wizard that likes to hang out with Dwarfs. And then we can pop out of nowhere and scare the shit out of them, which sounds like a good time.
 
DragonParadox said:
You know I've been thinking about something, if Mathilde ends up with Panoramia how will she introduce her paramour to her parents? I'm betting the first step will be mentioning Mathilde is responsible for the Rooms of Calamity, then comes the mushroom experimentation... the weaponizing of dwarf hell may have to wait a few years. :V
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I may have written something about this:
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Also, if we are going to Karag Dum, which I recommend not doing, we need to start getting more killy quickly. This means spending time working on how to sword better (the unique swordfighting technique), learning some battle magic, controlling our shadow, and getting some sort of enchanted armor.

[X] Plan Red Minus KD
 
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Abhorsen said:
Also, if we are going to Karag Dum, which I recommend not doing, we need to start getting more killy quickly. This means spending time working on how to sword better (the unique swordfighting technique), learning some battle magic, controlling our shadow, and getting some sort of enchanted armor.

[X] Plan Red, Not Dum
-[x] PROJECT: Cartographer
-[x] PROJECT: Waystone
-[x] PROJECT: Black Waters
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This is identical to [] Plan Red Minus KD

Also, if you want to approval vote, the currently leading non-KD plan is [] Plan Backyard, which is Plan Red swapping out KD for AV.
 
Exmorri said:
I don't. My experience is that "poor" is used to mean something like "lacking" and expects an argument to be lacking in. By default it means lacking money, with regards to work you hear other arguments like "poor quality". The inverse form of using "rich" for "plentiful" likewise takes an argument, usually also money, but we also see forms such as "rich in vitamins" to describe food. Sometimes the argument is not explicitly stated because it's obvious from context.

Checking my etymological dictionary, apparently this goes all the way back to a proto-indo-european root *pau: few, little. Which gives us a wide variety of words for small things and shortages from puppet (doll) to pusillanimous (cowardly, lit. small-spirited)
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I think perhaps its modern usage has changed from its roots. "Poor people" is a commonly used phrase, and it doesn't refer to a lack of enough people.
 
Hold the fuck up.

Those names...

One Mathilde within the name of the room type. In this Mathilde is another Mathilde. Then, all of the individual rooms have alliterative names that, when put in a sequence (presumably the order of construction), produce two more Mathildes.

That's four Mathildes snuck under the noses of the entire Eight Colleges and the Dawi, in a way that seems to have been done on purpose, but which cannot be proven to have been. Even if it could be, the names cannot be changed without showing a significant lack of gratitude to both Mathilde and, especially, the Dawi. The project is being funded by a follower of Ranald, using favour gained from selling the Dawi priceless fluid they need to effectively protect themselves and the entire world.

Mother of God...
 
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Akasha said:
Hold the fuck up.

Those names...

One Mathilde within the name of the room type. In this Mathilde is another Mathilde. Then, all of the individual rooms have alliterative names that, when put in a sequence, produce two more Mathildes.

That's four Mathildes snuck under the noses of the entire Eight Colleges and the Dawi, in a way that seems to have been done on purpose, but which cannot be proven to have been. Funded by a follower of Ranald, using favour gained from selling the Dawi priceless fluid they need to effectively protect themselves and the entire world.

Mother of God...
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These rooms are also going to be used to learn new magic - which is always a gamble - and are made possible by the sale of blood we've stolen from the Wisdom Asp.

@BoneyM can we ask the Dwarves to put some X's in inconspicuous places?
 
Briefvoice said:
That information is not in the text of the vote, and I just can't keep up reading every post in this thread. It moves too fast.
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The thing I recommend doing if you can't keep up with the thread itself is to just read all of Boney's posts since you last checked in. I keep a bookmark for his userpage for that reason.
BurnNote said:
Almost certainly. Back when we got the invite, he basically said "We've got our own mages. Not as popular, but they'd suit you better"
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Yep:
BoneyM said:
Our Arhain are not as sought as Saphery's Sariour, but you of the grey of eight may be able to appreciate them."
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SaltyWaffles said:
Ah, okay, that makes more sense. I thought you were saying we just couldn't do it anymore at all. My bad.
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My feeling is that this coming turn, or possibly the one after, we should build another Tower and use it for this:
BoneyM said:
[ ] [TOWER] Protection (COLOUR)
Build a tower to magically reinforce or protect the others. Specify wind. 5 College favours.
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@veekie made a great post a while back that included discussion of our options. I lean towards using Ulgu.
 
Akasha said:
Hold the fuck up.

Those names...

One Mathilde within the name of the room type. In this Mathilde is another Mathilde. Then, all of the individual rooms have alliterative names that, when put in a sequence, produce two more Mathildes.

That's four Mathildes snuck under the noses of the entire Eight Colleges and the Dawi, in a way that seems to have been done on purpose, but which cannot be proven to have been. Funded by a follower of Ranald, using favour gained from selling the Dawi priceless fluid they need to effectively protect themselves and the entire world.

Mother of God...
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How is this "snuck under the noses"? The Colleges know we like to do this, and they know we're paying for it. Of course they'll notice. They'll just let us do it, because AFAIK we get to name them whatever we want.
 
TalonofAnathrax said:
How is this "snuck under the noses"? The Colleges know we like to do this, and they know we're paying for it. Of course they'll notice. They'll just let us do it, because AFAIK we get to name them whatever we want.
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It is slightly exaggerated, but the part that is supposed to be snuck in is the part that refers to Ranald. You know, number 4, the circumstances of the rooms' construction, and so on. Also, like I wrote, there is no evidence that this was done on purpose even if they find out. Yes, that is probably the case, but there is some degree of uncertainty. It could be that we like our name on our achievements; something that is known about us already. The actual context is concealed.

And if they don't notice the Ranaldian elements, but notice the names, then that is even better. In that case, we would be using a disguise in the form of a known habit to smuggle in an hidden Ranaldian message.
 
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Akasha said:
It is slightly exaggerated, but the part that is supposed to be snuck in is the part that refers to Ranald. You know, number 4, the circumstances of the rooms' construction, and so on. Also, like I wrote, there is no evidence that this was done on purpose even if they find out. It could be that we like our name on our achievements; something that is known about us already. The actual context is concealed.
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Layers upon layers upon layers. There's a reason Mathilde is considered one of Ranald's greatest mortal servants, if not the greatest.
...students are totally gonna think we were a Tzeentchian Cultist just from the sheer complexity of it all if they ever find out.
 
Ericwinter said:
Layers upon layers upon layers. There's a reason Mathilde is considered one of Ranald's greatest mortal servants, if not the greatest.
...students are totally gonna think we were a Tzeentchian Cultist just from the sheer complexity of it all if they ever find out.
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Ehh, Mathilde displays all the subtlety of a sword juggling elephant at a a Reiksland Noble party.
Except then the Host keels over dead because it turns out that was an eshin trained assassiphant, but who'd ever suspect that? And there's about even chances it was there purely because it enjoys sword juggling, and the target died in an unrelated accident.

I also think the metaphor has gotten away from me, and that we should get an assassiphant.
 
[X] Plan Red Minus KD

Tasoli said:
Not really. Entire Altdorf was charged magically by Teclis to create collages. Check out the Wiki page of Collages of Magic. It mentions riots in Altdorf because people couldn't really navigate like they used to and had to keep watch on Landmarks rather counting turns and like.

So Collages are in the cities. Ambers just don't like to be in any city so they keep out as much as they can but they still have their monowind area in the town. In fact if you look at the map of Altdorf collages are all over the place rather than together.
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Altdorf is a Waystone network nexus, like K8P is. Teclis may well have had to build the Colleges there, because he need to build them on one.
 
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BurnNote said:
Can someone explain to me what the ink for the docent is about?
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Sure thing.
picklepikkl said:
In order:

1. We translated Queekish.
2. Redshirt posted an Org Chart of the Grey College (check the Informational threadmarks), which identified the Docent as the person who assembles and maintains all captured correspondence (and so would have the stocks of Queekish writing the same way that one Loremaster in KaK did).
3. @HeWhoAdds proposed sending the Docent a gift basket as an I'm Sorry For Making Your Job Suddenly Much Harder present (since now all that stuff has to be gone through, and with much less available heacount than KaK has, though I guess there are probably Perpetuals who can be brought in on it).
4. I thought it was a cute idea and assembled an actual vote item for it.
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With I guess addendum 5. Redshirt suggested a nice Dwarven quill instead of ale like we gave the last guy and 6. Boney said that the Dwarf equivalent of "getting someone a fancy pen" is "getting them high-quality ink, guaranteed to neither freeze nor evaporate."
 
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Deathbybunnies said:
These rooms are also going to be used to learn new magic - which is always a gamble - and are made possible by the sale of blood we've stolen from the Wisdom Asp.

@BoneyM can we ask the Dwarves to put some X's in inconspicuous places?
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On each plaque that has each name of each tower, on the fourth letter, there should be a tiny, tiny X inscribed, 0.25 mm deep and say... 2 mm across.

But should Mathilde do it with her shadow chisel when she looks at the plaques before they're put up, or should she lie to a dwarf to get them do it?
 
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