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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[X] [MONEY] Zhufbar
[X] [SHEETS] Yes
[X] [ARMARIUM] You
[X] [SCROLLS] You
[X] [FLESH] You
[X] [RING] Take
 
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[X] [MONEY] Council of Manhorak
[X] [SHEETS] Yes
[X] [ARMARIUM] You
[X] [SCROLLS] You
[X] [FLESH] You
[X] [RING] Take

Yummy b o o k
 
[X] [MONEY] Zhufbar
[X] [MONEY] Council of Manhorak
[X] [SHEETS] No
[X] [ARMARIUM] You
[X] [SCROLLS] You
[X] [FLESH] You
[X] [RING] Take
 
[X] [FLESH] You
The most important part of the loot, imo. A book that could lend our nascent library some much needed prestige.

[X] [ARMARIUM] Council of Manhorak
[*] [MONEY] Zhufbar
If '[AMARIUM] You' wins - which seems likely - I'll change my money vote to Manhorak.
EDIT: both votes seem like a done deal at this point so this is mostly a formality, but the MONEY vote is closer than the ARMARIUM vote so:
[X] [MONEY] Council of Manhorak

[X] [SCROLLS] You
Not entirely sure what we'll do with this forbidden knowledge, but I don't value the gratitude of the Priory of the Spear all that much, and for all we know W'Soran ranting include some information about Nehekhara's Waystone network, so why not.

[X] [RING] Take
Not entirely sure what we'll do with this forbidden knowledge, but Vlad has proven a valuable source of insight before so...

Last but not least:
[X] [SHEETS] No
It is an important character beat that Mathilde has resisted the temptation of lesser silks and stayed true to the promise of spider-silk. To betray that now, on a library action of all things? A library staffed by the We? It would be a betrayal of Mathilde's integrity, the first step on a dark road of accepting subpar goods in general. What's next, paying less than the maximum possible amount on our research facilities? Offering umgi beer to our Dawi friends? Crafting Eike a staff out of some random tree we decided to chop? No. Spider-silk or bust.
Vote No for SHEETS. Mathilde's soul is at stake.
 
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[X] [MONEY] Zhufbar

[X] [SHEETS] No

[X] [ARMARIUM] You

[X] [SCROLLS] You

[X] [FLESH] You

[X] [RING] Take
 
We came here to get books and books well get.

I dont understand the whole talk about corruption regarding those books. They are books about mostly dhar adjacent things with a sprinkle of dhar. Those are not inherently corrupting. Using the stuff is what gets (most) people. In contrast to chaostomes. Where the act of reading itself could be corrupting, mostly through demonshenanigans. Which those books arent.
I for one am pretty interested in the knowledge contained in those books as well as the cloud they could generate for the library. Were already getting enough browniepoints through incidental gains here, not interested in throwing away priceless and irreplacable books and knowledge for a few more. Especially to people who deem perfectly usable knowledge anathema.

I couldnt care less to whom the money goes. I like the dwarves more, but theyre also getting much less from the influx. Getting the sheets just because its funny if it generates some mental pictures and to finally end that debate.

[x] [MONEY] Zhufbar
[x] [MONEY] Council of Manhorak
[x] [SHEETS] Yes
[x] [ARMARIUM] You
[x] [SCROLLS] You
[x] [FLESH] You
[x] [RING] Take
 
Codex said:
Human skin resonates with Shyish as much as leather does.
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For that matter and to further back up your point here, Codex: A lot old parchment is vellum. That is to say, animal skins and membranes often taken from calves. So not just the bindings but many pre-wood pulp paper writing surfaces in general are going to have a similar degree of affinity for Shyish.
 
Belkar said:
We came here to get books and books well get.

I dont understand the whole talk about corruption regarding those books. They are books about mostly dhar adjacent things with a sprinkle of dhar. Those are not inherently corrupting. Using the stuff is what gets (most) people. In contrast to chaostomes. Where the act of reading itself could be corrupting, mostly through demonshenanigans. Which those books arent.
I for one am pretty interested in the knowledge contained in those books as well as the cloud they could generate for the library. Were already getting enough browniepoints through incidental gains here, not interested in throwing away priceless and irreplacable books and knowledge for a few more. Especially to people who deem perfectly usable knowledge anathema.

I couldnt care less to whom the money goes. I like the dwarves more, but theyre also getting much less from the influx. Getting the sheets just because its funny if it generates some mental pictures and to finally end that debate.

[x] [MONEY] Zhufbar
[x] [MONEY] Council of Manhorak
[x] [SHEETS] Yes
[x] [ARMARIUM] You
[x] [SCROLLS] You
[x] [FLESH] You
[x] [RING] Take
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To be fair, there absolutely are dodgy dark magic grimoires out that will do horrible things to the reader. I'm pretty confident that none of these are such, though.
 
Please don't take the scrolls. Stuff written by an ancient vampire isn't safe reading material. The Liber Mortis is called out as an exception because it was written by a not evil (yet) necromancer.

[x] [SCROLLS] Priory of the Spear
Belkar said:
I dont understand the whole talk about corruption regarding those books. They are books about mostly dhar adjacent things with a sprinkle of dhar. Those are not inherently corrupting. Using the stuff is what gets (most) people. In contrast to chaostomes. Where the act of reading itself could be corrupting, mostly through demonshenanigans. Which those books arent.
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They probably are corrupting. The Books of Nagash we were told had a multitude of traps in them, and are likely corruptive. This is written by his immediate successor. I don't trust it at all.

The rest of the stuff seems safe, just the scrolls aren't.
 
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[X] [MONEY] Council of Manhorak
[X] [SHEETS] No
[X] [ARMARIUM] You
[X] [SCROLLS] You
[X] [FLESH] You
[X] [FLESH] University of Altdorf
[X] [RING] Take

I wont accept anything other than We silk sheets, just on principle
 
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LadyLynn said:
I was under the impression that we had been avoiding writing about them because we were looking for a way to avoid mentioning they were in Dwarven vaults, because we don't want anybody to know about Belegar having the coins in the banks melted down.
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Ahhh, I understand. I had misremembered.

Well, a good way to launder Nehekharan money is a good way to launder Nehekharan money.

Mopman43 said:
Only issue with directly claiming that we found a bunch of Nehekharan coins in Drakenhof is that everybody else present was present and didn't see any Nehekharan coins.
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There's at least one secret room that apparently only Mathilde entered. It would not be that difficult to lie about the contents of such room(s).

Although if we give the treasure to, say, Zhufbar, then there might be issues if they think we held back the Nehekharan coins.

Jyn Ryvia said:
Hollow rods, expectably metal ones, are an industrial revolution creation.

Without a tooled turner, wood or metal, I'm not sure how you would even make one in a practical way.

It's weird how some very complex things are very old inventions and some very simple looking stuff is comparatively new.
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With Chamon you could probably shape metal to suit your wishes easily enough. Dwarves can probably just frickin make one, one way or another.

And there's always the crude option of taking a sheet of metal, folding it up into a rough tubular shape, and then welding the join shut. Remember that we're not looking for fine tolerances or dimensional accuracy here, so a vaguely pipe-shaped object made of copper is good enough.

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And honestly, I'm in this for the laughs. Only one vote option produces laughs.

[X] [SHEETS] Yes
 
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Something I think some people might have missed (I for one overlooked this on my first read of the update):
Boney said:
Second are the books on prophecy, which are benign, and the Prophecies of Nospheratus, which is creepy but unknown, and so there's no obstacle to claiming them for yourself.
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Whichever way the vote goes regarding the SCROLLS, ARMARIUM and FLESH we are definitely getting some books on prophecy as well as the Prophecies of Nospheratus.
Which, uh, ok I guess? That's going to be some interesting reading material at least. Though it might be difficult to decide where they fit in our library - are prophecies Religion or Magic?

Codex said:
I think I can provide some additional substance. Dark Moor, which Abbot Ionel is from, is a Swamp that serves partially as the headwaters of the River Templa, which flows into the River Stir. Concurrently, the River Drak is also a river flowing from the World's Edge to join the River Stir. I suspect there is some sort of connection between these rivers and the divine powers that the Council of Manhorak draw from.
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That's great, thanks for the info - a google search of Drak just brought up Kraka Drak. I really want to talk to Kasmir about how the Council of Manhorak thing has been going so far, this stuff is fascinating to me.
 
[X] [MONEY] Council of Manhorak
[X] [SHEETS] No
[X] [ARMARIUM] You
[X] [SCROLLS] You
[X] [FLESH] You
[X] [RING] Take

All the books and knowledge for us and the council really need the money.
Zhufbar will just have a few grudge avenged for their effort.
 
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