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How do we get our research capacity up? Do we know?
Vox Vitae: Warhammer AI quest
- Thread starter Neablis
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- Mature Sci-Fi
- Pronouns
- He/Him
We have two techs that can do it right now, but the lion's share will come from the AI research tree longer term
We have two paths so far, one is machine spirit design and the other is human simulation.
- Location
- Boston
This is a great idea.
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We have one visible tech, Human Simulation Implants (cybernetics), and the path to one more, Machine Spirit Design (machine spirits), that will help with this.
- Location
- Somewhere Beyond the Sea
I've been doing some idle brainstorming and I think I have a concept on how our robots could use some kind of psychic power even if we don't end up becoming psychic.
Our shields are able to project a meaning into the Warp (our 'No' to any questions about corruption), so what if we try to turn that shield outwards? basically throwing it at a Daemon and disorienting them with the sound of a very loud, constant 'No'?
I imagine that'd be how the alternative shielding meanings tech would explain it?
Our shields are able to project a meaning into the Warp (our 'No' to any questions about corruption), so what if we try to turn that shield outwards? basically throwing it at a Daemon and disorienting them with the sound of a very loud, constant 'No'?
I imagine that'd be how the alternative shielding meanings tech would explain it?
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Yeah can get those, different meaning shields are an unlocked research path.
Dmol8
The Undead Unhinged Lunatic of the Web
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- Belgrade,Serbia
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- He/Him/His
Hey @Neablis do we know if the city built into the volcano has a Sump?
Yes I know the link is for Necromunda specifically, but Sumps are in general one of four parts of what makes a Hive City alongside the Spire, Hive and Underhive.
It's just that Necromunda is such an old Hive Planet that didn't turn into a Waste World that it has seas and oceans as Sumps instead of the usual ponds and the occasional lake that most other Hive Worlds have.
Yes I know the link is for Necromunda specifically, but Sumps are in general one of four parts of what makes a Hive City alongside the Spire, Hive and Underhive.
It's just that Necromunda is such an old Hive Planet that didn't turn into a Waste World that it has seas and oceans as Sumps instead of the usual ponds and the occasional lake that most other Hive Worlds have.
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- Boston
I'm wondering what would be better for finding the webway gate normal sensors or warp sensors (Empathy as Sensors, below).
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
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- Somewhere Beyond the Sea
If I have to guess, warp sensors would make finding the webway gate easier, but as this update showed us, we're disturbingly blind when it comes to seeing Eldar ships.
- Location
- Somewhere, probably Earth
Nah, average for the Imperium is 'functional, barely.' What you're thinkinf of ia those systems that fall below the 75th percentile.
The Imperium as a whole is 'barely functional', but I'd say the Imperial Faith is one on the institutions that more often than not makes things worse, they 'd be on the bad side of the average overall.
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- Boston
I absolutely agree, but after re-reading Better Sensors it sounds like it will be several actions to get the full benefit. We get a slight boost from the tech itself, but then will likely need to build the improved sensors for cutting through stealth. Then follow the research chain for better sensors. So I'm starting to lean towards working on it in the background.
-[] Better Sensors (200 RP) Trying to find the Eldar was a frustrating experience, and normal sensors didn't cut it. If you're willing to explore more esoteric branches of physics you think you could do a better job. (Unlocks slightly better basal sensors across the board, as well as equipment to cut through stealth technologies. Unlocks more research for better sensors. May unlock research for sensors that will detect what's going on inside enemy ships, improving combat predictions).
So my current two action research plan has shifted to:
-[] Research 1 & 2 (400 + 65 RP):
--[] Empathy as Sensors (100 RP)
--[] Scrapcode Immunity (100 RP)
--[] Ok, maybe there's a point to medical school (Finish for 20 RP)
--[] Advanced Neural Implants (85+65 RP)
---[] Anexa
--[] Human Simulation Implants (0 -> 95 RP / 150 RP)
This would get us new warp sensors, neuter Bongo, and Advanced Neural Implants. This let's Anexa fish for a crit on the implants this turn and then fish again next turn for the Human Simulation Implants. Although I'd also support putting her on the Warp Sensors tech.
This assumes we are staying here for two turns.
Thoughts?
We're already getting manufaturing from them, and we can snowball factories easily. We can't snowball RP.
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- Boston
You are correct we can snowball factories easily if we want to spend several actions building them. My general read on the group consensus is that we only want to spend a turn or two in Denva each time we return. If we are okay with Investing the time to rebuild a manufacturing base each time we return to Denva I think it's a solid plan. It will certainly help the Denvan's with their industry.
I more meant we can build a factory ship and use it to make more factory ships.
Also, with automation and shielding we're not that far from leaving stealth manufactories in places making things, then coming back for the finished project.
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- Boston
Ahh sorry, for the mis-understanding
I do like this idea. Might not get the research done until our second exploration loop. But a basic AI that controls deep space factories to build more deep space factories would be great (I use deep space factories since they get 'free' stealth and are the most CP efficent).
Even if it takes one construction action per turn, that would still passively build up a nice factory for us anywhere we needed one.
I do like this idea. Might not get the research done until our second exploration loop. But a basic AI that controls deep space factories to build more deep space factories would be great (I use deep space factories since they get 'free' stealth and are the most CP efficent).
Even if it takes one construction action per turn, that would still passively build up a nice factory for us anywhere we needed one.
Angle
Release Candidate Enby
- Location
- Colorado, USA
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- They/Them/Theirs/Comrade
I don't like the stealth manufactories idea, I'd rather just pick up warp comms so we can command stuff while we're out of system.
Also, I'd like to reiterate my idea of asking Denva to research manufacturing technology, should improve their manufacturing as well as get us more tech.
Also, I'd like to reiterate my idea of asking Denva to research manufacturing technology, should improve their manufacturing as well as get us more tech.
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They have every reason to do that on their own. Why spend a boon?
Because they have no reason to share it for free, and since our asks help guide where they go, they might decide to research cybernetics first or just focus on building more of the manufactories we did, especially since they're expecting to deliver us a bunch of their gdp.
Angle
Release Candidate Enby
- Location
- Colorado, USA
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- They/Them/Theirs/Comrade
So they'll do it a lot faster, and in a way we can directly use the tech. Like, do you expect neablis to give us manufacturing techs from them if we don't spend a boon on it? Seems iffy to me.
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We produce tech orders of magnitude faster than them and in fields they would never dare touch. Every time we show up we will always have more tech to trade for whatever they made than they could hope to.
I expect the Denvans to in exchange for our tech.
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Angle
Release Candidate Enby
- Location
- Colorado, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them/Theirs/Comrade
If we don't ask for it in specific, we're gonna get 50 RP scattered in dribs and drabbles over like five different techs - where as if ask for it in specific, we might actually get a whole tech or two in exchange.
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- colombia
we need chaos resistant machine spirits and then combined them with psy-shields,that way we get chaos resistant self-replinishing psyshields
add scrapcode to give a offensive option to damage whatever bongo manages to posses (we scrapcode whatever he owns)
for binding tho,thats in the demonology tree
I do not think we are going to get to direct their entire research output with the boon, at most we would get to focus half and half of 'not much' is hardly worth a boon. I'd rather have those diplomats for Vitcan to lead. Diplomacy has done very well for us so far.
Angle
Release Candidate Enby
- Location
- Colorado, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them/Theirs/Comrade
It's not just their current research output, if we ask for research I expect them to dedicate more effort to research in general, and to make sure that what research they do is more useful to us, rather than scattered all over the place.
Though diplomats for Victan does sound nice too... But are we actually gonna use them? People are split on whether to try diplomacy here, and we actually have a settlement to talk to. I wouldn't expect most systems to even have anyone yo talk to, let alone somoleone actually worth talking to.