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How about:



Except without the yellow outline on the pheonix.

Edit: Ninja'd

Ohhh! Idea! Resize the phoenix so it is small enough to fit into the blue and move it there, and then turn the red into red-and-white stripes. That would be a nice nod to the original US flag, I think.
(also I'd tend to favour a red phoenix, because it is the firebird after all, but eh, not that important)
 
Ohhh! Idea! Resize the phoenix so it is small enough to fit into the blue and move it there, and then turn the red into red-and-white stripes. That would be a nice nod to the original US flag, I think.
(also I'd tend to favour a red phoenix, because it is the firebird after all, but eh, not that important)

What if we put the phoenix in the blue canton of old glory? Or in the center of a blue seal on 9 red and white vertical stipes?
 
Ohhh! Idea! Resize the phoenix so it is small enough to fit into the blue and move it there, and then turn the red into red-and-white stripes. That would be a nice nod to the original US flag, I think.
(also I'd tend to favour a red phoenix, because it is the firebird after all, but eh, not that important)

Something along these lines? Not exact, just a flag with a similar concept.

 
Ohhh! Idea! Resize the phoenix so it is small enough to fit into the blue and move it there, and then turn the red into red-and-white stripes. That would be a nice nod to the original US flag, I think.
(also I'd tend to favour a red phoenix, because it is the firebird after all, but eh, not that important)
Blue-on-red contrast tends to look bad, that or blur together into purple at a distance.
 
What if we put the phoenix in the blue canton of old glory? Or in the center of a blue seal on 9 red and white vertical stipes?
The former is probably a good option, because it looks a lot like an American flag, while being immediately, conspicuously different, and involving no unaesthetic color clashes.

Vertical red-and-white candy cane stripes don't seem to work very well.

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Honestly, thinking about it, I can't think of a lot of flags with thin vertical stripes. Horizontal or diagonal, yes, but vertical stripes tend to be big fat tricolor setups.
 
What if we put the phoenix in the blue canton of old glory? Or in the center of a blue seal on 9 red and white vertical stipes?
That works both, though the phoenix would have it rather cramped in both. That is why I like the diagonal divide, and also as a nod towards various anarchist and other leftist ideologies, but if we want to present ourselves as more conservative-continuist, the US flag just with phoenix instead of stars in the blue canton certainly works.

Something along these lines? Not exact, just a flag with a similar concept.


With the blue field covering the entire upper left half as per the diagonal line flags, but yeah, somewhat like that in effect.
 
Personally I'm not a fan of the red/white/black combo. I think that the combination of red and black just looks too aggressive. Maybe I'm too comfortably bourgeois, but the jarring black and red seems like the kind of thing I'd expect to see violent anarchists waving during a riot. It seems angry and destructive rather than hopeful and positive.

Edit: Please ignore - my laptop had its blue light filter on, and the blue looked black :p
 
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Personally I'm not a fan of the red/white/black combo. I think that the combination of red and black just looks too aggressive. Maybe I'm too comfortably bourgeois, but the jarring black and red seems like the kind of thing I'd expect to see violent anarchists waving during a riot. It seems angry and destructive rather than hopeful and positive.
That flag uses dark blue, white and red, not even a bit black...are you color blind (not asking insultingly)?

How about:



Except without the yellow outline on the pheonix.

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More ideas:

 
Hold up, just thought of something.

If we're going to spam the Battle Cry of Freedom (D O W N W I T H T H E T R A I T O R S ! U P W I T H T H E S T A R S !) then the flag we're rallying around needs some actual stars.
 
I honestly don't like any of the bird-bearing flags as our primary flag. The simpler stars-and-bars arrangements appeal to me a whole lot more.
 
Yeah, KISS is a good idea with flags.
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[X][IDEALS] Social Democrat: Centered around the idea that it is the state's responsibility to ensure a bare-minimum standard of living, the Social Democrats add to the New Capitalist agenda with a push for a government guarantee of adequate housing, food, and water to all citizens -- itself a fairly titanic task. It remains rooted in the fundamental ideal of private enterprise. The Social Democrats have some interest in the potential of democratized workplaces and are willing to support them in an experimental measure.
[X][CRUSH] None. This is a democracy. If your ideology cannot make its case to the people in practice, it deserves to fail.
[X][POWER] You are a centralized federal state along the lines of the later United States.
[X][TEXT] The Constitution serves as a broad guide for the structure of this document, and many legal concepts integral to it carry through, but it is rewritten from the ground up to serve its new situation rather than simply amending it until it fits.
[X][REVIEW] The new Constitution should be put to review and possible revision every thirty years.

Everything looks for the most part. I kind of wish the wording of throwing out the Constitution wasn't so dour and condescending. It could've easily just been a "The Constitution should only be mentioned in history books, remembered at best as a icon of the old American identity like the Declaration of Independence, or at worst a novelty like the Liberty Bell. We'll let future generations decide, but now is the time to chart a new path." Still a tad dismissive, but in this case we are doing so because we need something better.
 
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[X][IDEALS] Social Democrat
[X][CRUSH] Some of the central tenets of the founding government's ideology are written into foundational law, making it difficult for even violently opposed successor governments to fully roll them back without immense popular support.
[X][POWER] You are a devolved unitary state with subordinate governments formed or dissolved by central governmental decrees according to need
[X][POWER] You are a centralized federal state along the lines of the later United States.
[x][TEXT] The Constitution serves as a broad guide for the structure of this document, and many legal concepts integral to it carry through, but it is rewritten from the ground up to serve its new situation rather than simply amending it until it fits.
 
[X][IDEALS] Socialist
[X][CRUSH] None
[X][POWER] You are a devolved unitary state with subordinate governments formed or dissolved by central governmental decrees according to need
[X][TEXT] The Constitution was utterly bereft of any kind of legal, political, or ethical merit and shall be cast into the trash heap of history where it belongs. We shall start anew from a blank slate.
[x][REVIEW] The new Constitution should be put to review and possible revision every thirty years.
 
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