Remove ads

Victoria Falls: A Post-Collapse American Nation Quest [Down With Victoria!]

Voting is open
Reader mode
Shinr said:
Even the weather hates us.

And unlike a certain Mountain Vietnam where any failed roll could stop the multiple-crit momentum cold due to bad mechanics, here we failed on exactly the things we needed to succeed.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

How is this bad for us? Good weather means Blackwell can potentially move against us. Once the snow is falling he'll have serious trouble moving his militia around, and we want him to attack us.
 
Yeah, the dice kind of ruined a decent plan. Very unfortunate and frustrating but I've come to expect it with the current RNG. Dice superstition aside anyway.

Ahh well, they can't all be great rolls.
 
It's a 29 not a 4. So Buffalo buys the propaganda about the machine state and is confused by us, I guess. Maybe we can improve the impression over time. This is an initial reaction.
 
Right. Whatever else, we haven't come to the table immediately after Victorians weaponized civilian meatshields. That's worth a lot in itself.

Similarly, there's no way in hell we're leaving anyone that voted for their freedom behind.

Ironically enough, this strikes me as both something we would both see in Lindverse and depressingly plausible. Haven't had time for proper hearts and minds in between the shooting, and indoctrination is just that strong.

Rockeye said:
It's a 29 not a 4. So Buffalo buys the propaganda about the machine state and is confused by us, I guess. Maybe we can improve the impression over time. This is an initial reaction.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Let's not jump to conclusions.
 
Last edited:
At the very least folks back home have decent weather for proper farming season.
 
10ebbor10 said:
Yup.

I expect that Victoria is going to let the referendum happen, and then they win, massively.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Hey at least this gives us an excuse to pull back with a good look. After all we're just respecting the locals' decision. We probably won't get a peace deal at all if we do but I don't think the alternative of fighting the people we were talking about protecting is worth considering.

Still, let's see exactly what this roll means.
 
I mean, Blackwell can't see the dice. I think, based on PtP's comments that @QTesseract posted back when they posted their write-in, that it's still a threat Blackwell has to respect, and so the military side of the operation still happens -- he still has to come at us.
"Announcing that would be threatening in the same way as announcing the free state, although not to the same extent. The Free State being announced is a direct and ongoing threat. A plebiscite raises the possibility that Buffalo might vote to sta-"

-and there is where I-as-Blackwell had a brief, but intense, flashback to the fact that Buffalo's population is like 65%-70% of what it was last year almost entirely because of the efforts of one flavor of Victorians or another, including the most recent -- by design -- highly visible terrorist attack orchestrated at every stage on army veterans shipping in about a month prior.

A plebiscite would actually be threatening to about the same degree. It wouldn't really be safe for anybody in Buffalo who declines to go live in the Commonwealth, but it probably wouldn't provoke a, "Raze it to the ground," response, although the resulting purge would be much stiffer than what the city is already in for.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
The issue, I think, is what's going to happen afterwards.
 
Bad luck's bad luck. On one hand you can't blame a plan on being unlucky with the dice. On the other; dice-nihilism is a rather unhealthy attitude for questing.

Still, clear weather means we can still fly CAS.
 
*John Franklin slams his walking stick into the ground three times*
"Let's all just take a deep breath for a moment, shall we?"
 
Well. Time to say I told you so about the whole situation with regards to the coinflip. Now, now, we will have to accept whatever the damned treaty gets shoved in front of us instead of having a say in it.

Well, good bye sea access. This is going to screw over our industry build up and ruin the PR and morale we got from such a clean victory in Detroit.

And the Johnson administration is likely to get voted out of office.
 
aceraptor said:
Well. Time to say I told you so about the whole situation with regards to the coinflip. Now, now, we will have to accept whatever the damned treaty gets shoved in front of us instead of having a say in it.

Well, good bye sea access. This is going to screw over our industry build up and ruin the PR and morale we got from such a clean victory in Detroit.

And the Johnson administration is likely to get voted out of office.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Not to mention all the other ways that this screws us, One of the ways this could go bad is if the CMC decides that we are the bigger danger and rejoins with Blackwell to temporarily kick our asses all the way back to Detroit. and another way this could go badly is if the Russians step in with their elite men and equipment. in short we are up a creek without a paddle.
 
aceraptor said:
Well. Time to say I told you so about the whole situation with regards to the coinflip. Now, now, we will have to accept whatever the damned treaty gets shoved in front of us instead of having a say in it.

Well, good bye sea access. This is going to screw over our industry build up and ruin the PR and morale we got from such a clean victory in Detroit.

And the Johnson administration is likely to get voted out of office.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Anime_Fan35 said:
Not to mention all the other ways that this screws us, One of the ways this could go bad is if the CMC decides that we are the bigger danger and rejoins with Blackwell to temporarily kick our asses all the way back to Detroit. and another way this could go badly is if the Russians step in with their elite men and equipment. in short we are up a creek without a paddle.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
1)Save it for the update.
2)Even in the absolute worst reading of events, not knuckling under to the bombing was worthwhile in its own right and nothing that happens now will change that we did not reward that behavior.
3)As people were fond of bringing up, a peace treaty's terms that weren't concrete objects or PR would always last only as long as Victorian good faith. I suggest planning to take what you want directly down the line if you're resigned to an unfavorable ending in the very next vote.
 
Reader mode
You must login or register to reply here.
Voting is open
Remove ads
Back
Top