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Transposition, or: Ship Happens [Worm/Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio | Arpeggio of Blue Steel]

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so....

we got a Hyuuga version in the form of MM!Lisa?

can you take my munnie?
 
Mashadarof402 said:
"Why nine?"
"Look, I don't specialize in cyborg bodies ok? I had to learn as I went."
"You... you made nine bodies? No. You made nine me's?!"
"I couldn't tell if they worked if I didn't run them, and I only had one brain to spare."
"You WHAT?!"
"At least I wiped your memories before activation this time! I thought you would have appreciated that after all that screaming, violence and existential horror derived suicide attempts."
"... this is some serious Bonesaw shit."
"Hey!"
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Somehow, you reminded me of this:


Also, we need an appropriate song for Mecha-Lisa-Bot:



And one for Taylor



(this is for when she is kicking ass)
 
Viper5delta said:
Oh yeah, people have survived some really stupid shit, but between the burns, the broken bones, the losing consciousness while severely injured in deep water, etc etc, while I'm not saying it's flat out impossible for TT to have survived, as I stated, I have to chalk it up to Author Fiat.
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Two bits, both verified by Guiness book of world records.

MSgt Buck something, survived a fall at Ft Bragg from 15k ft, walking away with a bruised little finger.
Vesna vesnic? Flight attendant, survived a fall from a plane in flight. A highjacker set off a bomb, sucking her out and dropping her 33, 333 ft.
She spent months in the hospital, but lived.
On a more personal note, I was free style rock climbing and made a mistake that dropped me down the chimney I was climbing, bouncing off both sides a couple of times before hitting the bottom.
Obviously, I survived.
 
SO with making Lisa a nanomaterial body comes to one thing. Processing power.

It took a quarter of Repulse's entire processing power to give Vampire the ability to manifest her mental model and running near 100% Load made her stumble effectively like a drunk. We don't know what Relentless's core type is. She may be more like Kongou or maybe Nagato in terms of power and this could be a problem. And that had a core which knew how to use nanomaterial easily

Putting a human in a nanomaterial box becomes another problem of interface. Relentless's nanocontrol works so well as her union core at it's fundamental level is programmed to control them. Whatever the case is a chunk of Relentless's core is going to constantly be translating and controlling Lisa's body and ensuring the required subsystems are working.
 
Zelinko said:
SO with making Lisa a nanomaterial body comes to one thing. Processing power.

It took a quarter of Repulse's entire processing power to give Vampire the ability to manifest her mental model and running near 100% Load made her stumble effectively like a drunk. We don't know what Relentless's core type is. She may be more like Kongou or maybe Nagato in terms of power and this could be a problem. And that had a core which knew how to use nanomaterial easily

Putting a human in a nanomaterial box becomes another problem of interface. Relentless's nanocontrol works so well as her union core at it's fundamental level is programmed to control them. Whatever the case is a chunk of Relentless's core is going to constantly be translating and controlling Lisa's body and ensuring the required subsystems are working.
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It's been heavily implied that Taylor is running a core at least as powerful as Yamato's and is currently running on restricted access for training and infiltration purposes. She's likely going to think of this issue, given her knowledge of the body difficulties which she mentioned in this chapter.

An work around for this issue is to build Tats a "solid" cyborg body by fabricating the components using nanomaterial. Or as other people noted, potentially recreating her bio body out of whole cloth.
 
Zelinko said:
SO with making Lisa a nanomaterial body comes to one thing. Processing power.

It took a quarter of Repulse's entire processing power to give Vampire the ability to manifest her mental model and running near 100% Load made her stumble effectively like a drunk. We don't know what Relentless's core type is. She may be more like Kongou or maybe Nagato in terms of power and this could be a problem. And that had a core which knew how to use nanomaterial easily

Putting a human in a nanomaterial box becomes another problem of interface. Relentless's nanocontrol works so well as her union core at it's fundamental level is programmed to control them. Whatever the case is a chunk of Relentless's core is going to constantly be translating and controlling Lisa's body and ensuring the required subsystems are working.
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QA, who happily surrendered to Taylor's core is uniquely suited to circumvent this problem.
She currently is individually controlling each nanomachine in Taylor's body and all the nanomaterial produced and is not showing any strain.

Controlling another body should not be a problem.

She is also an expert in interfacing with whatever, even more than other shards, which did so to multiple species, AI's and so on.

QA should be able to produce an interface for an autonomous cybernetic body for Lisa easily, once she is made aware of this problem and requested help.
 
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Geas said:
First off, human beings? For as fragile as media likes to depict us being, especially pick-an-action-flick-go-on-I'll-wait, we as a species are quite frankly, stupidly durable in a lot of ways that inspire disbelief when you take the time to think about it. When it comes to violence especially, like a certain parrot once famously said, you'd be surprised what you can live through.
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Like I said about a dozen pages back. Hollywood is a filthy liar, and humans are stupidly durable.
About how long, with the wounds Lisa was described as suffering, would you expect a normal human to be able to survive without prompt medical assistance?
I hazarded a guess as a few hours before immediately important organs began to shut down in a catastrophic chain reaction. But I'm a layman with only a passing familiarity to actual medical knowledge about this sort of stuff.
 
Lisa survived... I'm shocked. :rolleyes:

Anyway, curious if she will look the same, or a bit different. I suspect different, but no she won't be 2B or any of the usual examples of Android girls. She wouldn't want to draw attention I suspect. If she stays Brain in a Jar or gets an upgrade to full metal mode, I'd kind of like her to lose her power if she gets an upgrade as a trade off for all the Fog stuff.
 
Unseelie said:
How long was she on the rig?
On the one hand, they apparently didn't give her new clothes, on the other hand it was long enough for the other Undersiders to be "processed"?
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Barely more than twenty-four hours. They did search her thoroughly, but didn't force her into a prison jumpsuit or anything since her costume was deemed a non-issue. Also, letting someone keep their clothes when they're likely to be inducted (albeit forcefully) into your organization is a pretty minor -but possibly meaningful to the person- courtesy.
 
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My only complaint about this chapter is that I know that it's gonna be a few weeks before we find out what happens to Lisa. :(
 
Ravenwood240 said:
Two bits, both verified by Guiness book of world records.

MSgt Buck something, survived a fall at Ft Bragg from 15k ft, walking away with a bruised little finger.
Vesna vesnic? Flight attendant, survived a fall from a plane in flight. A highjacker set off a bomb, sucking her out and dropping her 33, 333 ft.
She spent months in the hospital, but lived.
On a more personal note, I was free style rock climbing and made a mistake that dropped me down the chimney I was climbing, bouncing off both sides a couple of times before hitting the bottom.
Obviously, I survived.
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My main bit of disbelief isn't the fact that she survived the fall or the burns, it's the fact that she was that fucked up and survived an unspecified amount of time (but presumably 10-15 minutes minimum) in deep water. Presumable quite a bit of her fat (what little she had) was burnt off, which removes a fair bit of buoyancy. It's outright stated that she blacked out in the water, and (unless she got really lucky with a random current) to move any reasonable distance to get to a wreck the sea state must have been rather aggressive. All that adds up to really fucking difficult to keep your head above water, and once you get water in your lungs any remaining buoyancy goes to shit and good luck recovering from that. As I've said, the series of events leading to TT's survival isn't IMPOSSIBLE, it's just improbable enough that I have to chalk it up to author fiat.
 
Viper5delta said:
My main bit of disbelief isn't the fact that she survived the fall or the burns, it's the fact that she was that fucked up and survived an unspecified amount of time (but presumably 10-15 minutes minimum) in deep water. Presumable quite a bit of her fat (what little she had) was burnt off, which removes a fair bit of buoyancy. It's outright stated that she blacked out in the water, and (unless she got really lucky with a random current) to move any reasonable distance to get to a wreck the sea state must have been rather aggressive. All that adds up to really fucking difficult to keep your head above water, and once you get water in your lungs any remaining buoyancy goes to shit and good luck recovering from that. As I've said, the series of events leading to TT's survival isn't IMPOSSIBLE, it's just improbable enough that I have to chalk it up to author fiat.
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I actually want to cry "shard" here.
We know that the shards can do quite a bit with their hosts, and assisting survival by taking over some motoric functions while the host is unconscious is something I wouldn't be too surprised about.
 
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tenchifew said:
I actually want to cry "shard" here.
We know that the shards can do quite a bit with their hosts, and assisting survival by taking over some motoric functions while the host is unconscious is something I wouldn't be too surprised about.
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I actually don't know much about shards besides "Giant alien space whale reproduction" and "Make the Powers fight" so I don't know enough to make an argument one way or another. I will say that I've never heard of an instance of a shard not specifically designed to do it taking control of its hosts body or putting it's hosts body in some type of stasis.
 
Viper5delta said:
My main bit of disbelief isn't the fact that she survived the fall or the burns, it's the fact that she was that fucked up and survived an unspecified amount of time (but presumably 10-15 minutes minimum) in deep water.
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Tides were rising on the East coast from noon to about seven on April 15, 2011 (Yes, I actually looked this up and checked while writing this chapter). In a bay like Brockton's that means that water actively moves towards the shore and it isn't nearly as unlikely that things wash up. Lisa was in the water for less than an hour total before she started running into the boats in the bay (of which, as noted by Taylor, there are an unrealistically high number of that are apparently just there). You get weird eddies and stuff around surface structures that are clustered like that, which is why she kept running into the hulls once she was in that area.
 
Viper5delta said:
I will say that I've never heard of an instance of a shard not specifically designed to do it taking control of its hosts body or putting it's hosts body in some type of stasis.
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At the end of Worm, QA is basically running Taylor's body, and the thing that thinks it's Taylor is probably a really shitty simulation of her on QA's hardware. That's... one way to describe Khepri, anyways. @ensou can probably yell at me if I'm completely off base, lol.

Then again, A: QA is already about controlling things, including humans, and B: Khepri was very special circumstances (Panacea fucking around in her brain under great duress). Sooooo... it might not really count. :V
 
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