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Transposition, or: Ship Happens [Worm/Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio | Arpeggio of Blue Steel]

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Lieutenant Colonel Downy, reporting in and fully briefed for observation.


Now, While I do have some Information to give to the userbase of this story, I'm not sure it's been given already. I'm going to take a quick gander (By that I mean, I'm going to go through to entire thread to find out) to see if the specific piece of information has been already been said or linked too.

If any user that has gone through the story since the beginning can tell me if the calcs (Might have changed, the calcs were done 2-4 months ago) for the standard durability for Klein Fields has been given already, That would be useful so I don't post already known information. The calcs do include Word Of God, and they were taken from a rather long vs. debate on Space Battles.

Basically, I'm asking permission to link relevant information from a prior debate and making sure if anyone else has said\linked it yet. Apologies if it is.

Of course, I still like the story, so even if the information has been said before, I'm still going to stick around! :p
 
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Vicjer said:
... Who mugs someone with grenades!?:lol:rofl::lol:rofl:
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Happened in Denver, back in the 70's. A gang hit up a shipment (either they were confused, or were being random) of weapons that the National Guard was shipping back as obsolete and scheduled for destruction.

The gang apparently expected money, and threw up their hands (metaphorically speaking), deciding to sell the junk to any T,D & H that had a little cash. We had junkies who'd make the Merchants look like clean and sober citizens trying to pull hold ups with everything from WW2 handgrenades to old M1A1 bazookas to M3 "Grease Gun" submachineguns, to 1911A1 .45 pistols that were only being held together by the rust flakes holding hands.

Interesting time to be a night clerk in a 7-11...
 
EdBecerra said:
Happened in Denver, back in the 70's. A gang hit up a shipment (either they were confused, or were being random) of weapons that the National Guard was shipping back as obsolete and scheduled for destruction.

The gang apparently expected money, and threw up their hands (metaphorically speaking), deciding to sell the junk to any T,D & H that had a little cash. We had junkies who'd make the Merchants look like clean and sober citizens trying to pull hold ups with everything from WW2 handgrenades to old M1A1 bazookas to M3 "Grease Gun" submachineguns, to 1911A1 .45 pistols that were only being held together by the rust flakes holding hands.

Interesting time to be a night clerk in a 7-11...
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...And now I can't get the image of some poor minimum wage gas station clerk looking down the barrel of a bazooka.
 
EdBecerra said:
Happened in Denver, back in the 70's. A gang hit up a shipment (either they were confused, or were being random) of weapons that the National Guard was shipping back as obsolete and scheduled for destruction.

The gang apparently expected money, and threw up their hands (metaphorically speaking), deciding to sell the junk to any T,D & H that had a little cash. We had junkies who'd make the Merchants look like clean and sober citizens trying to pull hold ups with everything from WW2 handgrenades to old M1A1 bazookas to M3 "Grease Gun" submachineguns, to 1911A1 .45 pistols that were only being held together by the rust flakes holding hands.

Interesting time to be a night clerk in a 7-11...
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o_O
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... I have no words.
 
Nightwing said:
Much appreciated. I have been unable to find it myself
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No reason you should. At the time it was considered a minor funny, not something that was serious.

Remember, this was in a day and age when high-school students would drive to class in pickup trucks with deer rifles racked in the rear windshield, doors unlocked, racks with NO locks, and it wasn't seen as unusual or wrong. In fact, a lot of students would drive directly from school to hunting on their parent's farms. School shootings? What were those? What sorta dark fantasy crap you readin', boy? Folks don't DO thet there sorta thing...

Life was different... I miss it.
 
Darth Thanatos said:
Hum...

This is not a quest, it's a fanfic. We can discuss the provided information and how it applies to the story, but only the author can decide to use it or not.
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Tch, I'm so used to quests that I made that mistake. It's almost second nature. Fixing now.

Besides, I understand the Author has that authority, Just thought It would be useful for some some people to know. I just want to know if the story has any of the shield calcs yet. However, it would be perfectly understandable if the author choose her own calcs, though.
 
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Franklymydear said:
:rofl:

Looks like you're having one of those days.

To answer your question, someone has probably done the maths for it somewhere in the thread, but it doesn't seem to be linked so you might as well post it if you feel like it, or just provide a link to whatever post contains it.
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Well, I want to post the information because I remember the debate it came from it was calced because a Japanese man who asked Ark Performance on their twitter page on information on what it takes to breach the Klein Field. After that, One of the Space Battles administrators calced the rest. I thought it would be useful for the quest. Apologies if it was already linked or under satisfactory.

It was calced somewhere around triple digit Megatons and single digit Gigatons around a concentrated square meter attack with conventional weapons, Since all of the worlds nukes equate to around 6.4 gigatons. Keep in mind though, It was specifically conventional weapons, So I'm not sure how any specialty (Lasers, Plasma, Etc.) weapons or tinkertech it would take to break the shield, but that's still damn impressive. Also, The calcs was for (Standard) Fog Ships, not MMs, but that's pretty obvious.

Considering this, it is almost common sense that Corrosive torpedoes have another way of breaking the Shields rather than sheer firepower (unless there's some kind of Star Wars calcing going on....:V). Some thing to keep in mind, could be a way to take down specific Capes, or Taylor's Ship, if need be.


Though one must keep in mind that they are shot by other Fog Weapons, and most of the kills are either from the Super Graviton Cannon or Torpedoes, along with the seldom standard Gravity weapons (Which themselves, the shields were weathered down from torpedoes before, IIRC) . Then again, if I'm familiar enough with calcing, those would fall under hax, Correct? It would require even more research than I already have done, but I'm sure that's easy enough, taken I take time to do it.....

((Taken from the first 6 posts of this page of said vs. thread.))

EDIT: Well, It looks like I did something wrong...
 
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On Klein fields and Wave-Force Armor
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    • It's been shown in canon that every class has a different energy saturation capacity for their WFA based on processing power (i.e. the number of hits it can take before failing). Nagara went down with a single CT, while Hyuuga took no less than twelve. My [conjecture] is that as more energy is placed into the Klein field, the field becomes increasingly unstable and requires more and more constant adjustment by the processor to keep it from collapsing, eating up more CPU resources the more energy it has. A faster, more powerful processor would thus be able to compute and handle a greater load before hitting its limits.

    Breaking the bottom of the Klein field is what I think you're talking about: the theoretical limit a Fog ship has for energy absorption in a single instant, which is exactly what the super-graviton cannons attempt to exploit. It hasn't been stated in canon (as far as I know) if that's a universal constant or also class/processor dependent. I strongly assume it's processor dependent otherwise there would be no need for "stronger" SGCs like what Haruna and Kirishima link up to form; there would just be one "strength" that would work against any class ship's WFA the same.

    So the problem isn't with any calculations, rather it's that every Fog class has different strength Armor: what may work for a light cruiser is nothing more than a mosquito bite to a Yamato or Iowa class battleship. If had to go by numbers like that, I'd believe Ark Performance was talking about something like a light cruiser or lower-class sub, since I just can't see any conventional weapons humans could bring to bear doing anything worth noticing to a ship like Yamato.
     
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    • Also keep in mind that we're talking about a story that's intended to mimic the strengths and weaknesses of conventional ships of war; it's ok to fudge the numbers a bit to support that theme.
     
    Nightwing said:
    Who is "Foil"? Do you mean Coil? Or is this someone totally different?
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    Ward in NY currently called Fletchette. Has the Sting shard that can impart to inorganic objects the ability to ignore physics and cut anything, even Endbringer cores and through dimensions. Transferred to BB in canon after Leviathan and SH9 arcs and eventually defected to the Undersiders for some sweet lesbian love with Parian, changing cape name to Foil.
     
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