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Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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Hello, new here, recently binged the old quest. Be sure to tell me if I made an obvious mistake. Or tell me my plan sucks.

Plan Probably A Bad Idea-
[] Invest 4x YSS (+12 Free)
[] Very High resource expense
[] Physical Cultivation x2 (Stamina)
[] Spiritual Cultivation x2 (Intelligence)
[] Eight Phase Ceremony x4 (Stealth)
[] Sable Crescent Step x3 (Dance)
[] Argent Current x4 (War)
[] Argent Storm x1 (Dodge)
[] Perform Sect Duties x2 (Government)
[] Research Arts in Sect archive x2 (Intelligence)
 
For reason why no current sparring:

Shen Hu prob cause we haven't spoken to him and it's the first day, might even come across suspicious/creepy lol.

Suyin what are we really going to get from sparring with? She is also unlikely to get anything from us, just wailing on an indestructible tree or untouchable shadow. We can nag her to train her flabby arms and meet up for happy necromancy times, maybe a little cultivation, but not much else.
 
FallenPears said:
For reason why no current sparring:

Shen Hu prob cause we haven't spoken to him and it's the first day, might even come across suspicious/creepy lol.

Suyin what are we really going to get from sparring with? She is also unlikely to get anything from us, just wailing on an indestructible tree or untouchable shadow. We can nag her to train her flabby arms and meet up for happy necromancy times, maybe a little cultivation, but not much else.
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We don't get much of anything in the short term, but if we don't find a way to help her she's going to get massacred. IIRC her sect rank is almost as high as ours, but she doesn't hold a candle to us in a fight.
 
Bob Saget said:
So, is Ling Qi going to get the chance to sit down and plan out her Arts advancement through Green? Seems like something her patron would be supportive of.

Because continuing to open Meridians haphazardly, as has occurred to some extent due to not having a solid macro plan, seems like it could become a real handicap.
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Yup. It's even worse than we feared. Before we were expecting to be restricted to around 8 arts. Now we see that PLR is using 7 meridians at green 4. We should thus expect around 9-10 meridians for late green arts.

This means we're looking at having around 6 arts at late green. Everything is going to have to be planned super tightly. We have no room for random pickups.
 
Asael said:
1) why would she?, they are barely acquainted.

2) the obvious answer is: Linq qi has no way of knowing this.
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1) Because she talked with him about sparring togther? And Li Suyin is still missing (and it's better to get all the paperwork done at the same time rather than stagger it across months).

2) Sixiang had a physical body. They also spoke of the desire to have a physical body. Xin is also a moon spirit that now has a physical body.

Like, I don't possess any information beyond what Ling Qi has. And if all else fails she can just ask Xin (reachable by Zeqing?) about how she gained a physical form.
 
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Wow, this is already starting off with a bang!

Glad to see the new thread up and running, now to see if I can figure out what exactly is happening and try to figure out a cool plan. Other than that, all I have to say is that it's good to be back and moving again.
 
memoryofglory said:
We don't get much of anything in the short term, but if we don't find a way to help her she's going to get massacred. IIRC her sect rank is almost as high as ours, but she doesn't hold a candle to us in a fight.
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She doesn't need to; she's a production student. She's Inner Sect now, the fights for position should all be production based for her unless she chooses otherwise (in which case she deserves a loss lol).

From the Inner Sect Rules:

6. Upon acceptance of a challenge, the disciple of superior rank will be given a choice of challenge types to pick from by the Official or Elder providing oversight to the challenge.

Either she's superior and picks production, or she's challenging, in which case she should challenge a production student and not combat student, in the same way as we shouldn't challenge production students.

Course not saying she should just ignore combat, it is a deathworld and all, but spending all her time trying to ensure she can beat combat students who challenge her in a fight will not only cause her to unacceptably fall behind in terms of her actual focus, but is also unlikely to work anyway.
 
SITB said:
1) Because she talked with him about sparring togther? And Li Suyin is still missing (and it's better to get all the paperwork done at the same time rather than stagger it across monthes).

2) Sixiang had a physical body. They also spoke of the desire to have a physical body. Xin is also a moon spirit that now has a physical body.

Like, I don't possess any information beyond what Ling Qi has. And if all else fails she can just ask Xin (reachable by Zeqing?) about how she gained a physical form.
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She's getting her basic needs squared away, everything else can come as we proceed through the first arc of settling into the inner sect

body creation isn't something she has any idea how to do or how feasible it is. Give me some time to introduce things, yeah?

Remember this just the background framework for the first couple story arcs.
 
Hmm... I feel like doing some missions would be a good idea for EPC successes.

Do we really need 2 actions of research? We want to take our time thinking about arts anyway...
 
memoryofglory said:
Hello, new here, recently binged the old quest. Be sure to tell me if I made an obvious mistake. Or tell me my plan sucks.

Plan Probably A Bad Idea-
[] Invest 4x YSS (+12 Free)
[] Very High resource expense
[] Physical Cultivation x2 (Stamina)
[] Spiritual Cultivation x2 (Intelligence)
[] Eight Phase Ceremony x4 (Stealth)
[] Sable Crescent Step x3 (Dance)
[] Argent Current x4 (War)
[] Argent Storm x1 (Dodge)
[] Perform Sect Duties x2 (Government)
[] Research Arts in Sect archive x2 (Intelligence)
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At minimum, we're only allowed to do each stat twice, so we can't have x4 stealth for example, it'd need to be x2 stealth, x2 wits (for example.)
Beyond that, why war and government? I'd like to hear your reasoning.
 
Erebeal said:
Hmm... I feel like doing some missions would be a good idea for EPC successes.

Do we really need 2 actions of research? We want to take our time thinking about arts anyway...
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Well, there is some obvious low hanging fruit there, like a better speed/init/dodge/avoid(if we get lucky) booster than fleeting zephyr, and some people want a better perception art.
 
commando2341 said:
At minimum, we're only allowed to do each stat twice, so we can't have x4 stealth for example, it'd need to be x2 stealth, x2 wits (for example.)
Beyond that, why war and government? I'd like to hear your reasoning.
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Thanks for the feedback.

Government isn't something we need immediately, but we're going to spend the rest of our life helping CRX with it, so we should put some effort in.

I picked War since, even if it isn't our specialty, we need to have a higher skill than H at least.
 
tryrar said:
Well, there is some obvious low hanging fruit there, like a better speed/init/dodge/avoid(if we get lucky) booster than fleeting zephyr, and some people want a better perception art.
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We have a million things to do for the first few months anyway, and we do not want to be picking things up without looking at the big picture.

We have very little flexibility anymore. Meridians are too tight.
 
Erebeal said:
Ok, cultivation planning spreadsheet is now online.

Here

Provide useful summaries like this (High levels of pills, 16 YSS):
Physical (4) = 408 * 1.2. Expected result: ~330/1200xp. ~3.23 turns remaining to level
Spiritual (4) = 428 * 1.2. Expected result: ~959/1200xp. ~0.85 turns remaining to level
Eight Phase Ceremony (EPC) (4) = 404 * 1.2. Expected result: ~310/500xp. ~0.71 turns remaining to level
Sable Crescent Step (SCS) (4) = 404 * 1.25. Expected result: ~320/500xp. ~0.65 turns remaining to level
Argent Genesis (AG) (2) = 132 * 1.7. Expected result: ~123/100xp. ~0 turns remaining to level

So, based on this I'd recommend not using a GSS yet. Most of our things don't really need it to hit their targets faster, and we can always do, say, 2 GSS next turn for the same result.

Better to wait and see what our EPC successes do first and where we want to shave off things.
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From what I am seeing there, we probably can afford to have 3 SCS actions this month, especially as we don't know if we have black pool yet or how Elder Lessons work. After all, we are going to get SCS7 next month anyway. If we can't get black pool this month but get it next month, this is a significant help.

I really think we should do some Sect job/Duty, as we want both the points and the EPC successes. Likewise, tempted to go in the inner sect archive.

I really can't make a plan until we know what's going on for the Elder Lessons and for the sites, though.
 
Erebeal said:
We have a million things to do for the first few months anyway, and we do not want to be picking things up without looking at the big picture.

We have very little flexibility anymore. Meridians are too tight.
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Meridians are tight and we need to look into methods to expand our kit outside of relying on them you say?

Hmm, if only there were some method we could use to load other arts on so they can be used reliably.

If

Only
 
tryrar said:
...................................these arts would REPLACE zephyr and mirror.
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Zephyr will likely have to disappear without replacement. SCS's upgrade or replacement is going to have to take its place, the meridian count won't allow us to upgrade FZ. I don't mind replacing Mirror but that's not what other people have been trying to support, and honestly it's extremely questionable whether we'll be able to support a dedicated perception art at all. Again, we're looking at something like FVM+, SCS+, FSS, PLR, TRF+, and one other art that weaves the above together like, say, a stealth+offensebuff art. That's it. There's no other room.
 
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SynchronizedWritersBlock said:
Zephyr will likely have to disappear without replacement. SCS's upgrade or replacement is going to have to take its place, the meridian count won't allow us to upgrade FZ. I don't mind replacing Mirror but that's not what other people have been trying to support, and honestly it's extremely questionable whether we'll be able to support a dedicated perception art at all.
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Well, what do you suggest for the Heart meridians Zephyr currently has?
 
MY NAME IS LING QI


I have stolen treasures from Weilu Tombs. I have watched cities burning in the face of the Mountain Barbarians while saving all whom I could. I have spent the night at a Dreaming Moon Revel and left with my sanity, my life, and its favor. I killed a barbarian at a younger age than most will see one. I received a reward for my failure during an Elder's Trial. I tread paths of moonlight that cannot be spoken of during the day. I have looked into the face of a demi-god and she recalled my name. I, from a family of no renown, called the scions of dukes and counts my peers during the Outer Argent Sect Tournament. I am the elder sister to a Guardian of the North. I have been sworn to silence on a matter by an Elder of the Argent Sect. I destroyed the operations of my enemy within a single night. I have broken through three realms of immortality in a single year. I have communed with Great Spirits, received the instruction of a living blizzard, and have composed melodies that make the Bai weep.


You may have heard of me.
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tryrar said:
...................................these arts would REPLACE zephyr and mirror.
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You're missing the point. We can't get new arts until we know what we're aiming for overall.

Right now we have 11 arts. By late green this will probably be 6. If we want want a sideboard then things get even more difficult since we have to make sure our limited meridians can handle both sets of arts.

We cannot, for example, just replace FZ and get attached to a new art without knowing how it fits into the build we're aiming for. Things are too tight.
 
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