Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

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He must have known what he was creating and that it would draw Xuan attention. I wonder how that conversation with sect head Yuan went.
I'm actually not sure he (specifically) knew what he was creating, would be pretty funny if he goes *wat*.

I'm gonna assume Mother Moon was involved. Why? Because Mother Moon is the Eminence in Shadow behind everything!
All those moon spirits LQ interactsed with are puppets. puppets!
 
Q&A stuff.

Bao capitalist bullshit in the past:
Mostly leonine contracts or selling you a product or service that was technically within all bounds of the contract but which had drawbacks or hooks that then forced you to rely on the Bao to continue the service or lose everything
so like to use Qian, alt-evil Bao would have used something like zhengui's ash to deliberatedly induce a dependence on his product, such that the fields would be ruined if you did not continue to use it
that kind of thing
then hit you with a much nastier contract when the first is up and your position is worse
Seasonal spirits:
I do need to develop them more. I would think they are rotating parts of a healthy regional spirit court, but most often are quite short lived at the lower level, lasting only for the season they are born in
more than that I would like to give myself room to maneuver yet lol
Most and least fun commissions to write:
Hm I think snake and spider are my favorite to write. The least fun.... I'm not sure the hardest so far might have been lay of the lakes.
Qi card upper limit:
Some very limited production of that is possible but not that could be triggered by a lower scion. It'd have to be some kind of automated defense talisman operating off a preset trigger andan internal power reservoir.
ye people without shen just flat out can't activate effects that need it, same goes for sovereignty
If the assassin had succeeded in killing little Renxiang:
She would have been very methodical about it, but absolutely unyielding in the investigation. The Bai would dock her points for just ripping the contents of the perpetrators mind apart thread by thread and then oblitering them though
Cloud bonding process:
Second realm is when they find their companion, third is when they become properly fused spiritually
second is the earliest that can be managed
nah you can't advance past their name quest equivalent unbonded
You can bond with a mount of opposite gender but the spiritual fusing means its impossible to have a child that way
and the Clouds in general very rarely do spirit blood that way, the couplings just don't produce viable offspring very often.
Menial arts:
They're most common among the servant clans of dukes and counts who can afford to have cultivators doing literal servant work
but there is some small trade in that kind of thing trickling downward to retired military and their families
temples would be another place to find that kind of thing, yeah
What the Xi arts were like:
Metal was mostly used for its themes of logic and rationality, expressed through arts which promoted organization and logistics, as well as the cutting arts of swordplay. Wood was their defensive aspect, which focused on unyielding returns and regenerating from losses and wounds. noncombat wise those arts were used to maximize their agricultural output and perform very potent medical arts.
They were in various archives though the biggest collection went up in smoke when the Hui destroyed their archive.
they did it as they were losing
it was purely spite toward the one you know, exterminating them.
Non MoI commoner sect sponsorship:
There are a few small court factions in the peaks coalescing around ideas like this. Mainly it comes down to a noble clan sponsoring some number of members from their household and servant clans for going to the great sects, usually at a reduced rate from the Sect in exchange for other favors, and with an expectation that the new young cultivator will reciprocate with service to their sponsor, or if a very high talent accept an adoption or marriage in.
there's still quite a bit of pushback against this and bringing common blood in, but the empress seems to approve of it, so the social pressure is fighting against the cut throat competition to improve your clans position.
Least common qi element pairing:
Hm, probably... water and fire in the traditional five as the sudden explosive energy doesn;t match well with the patient sort of mindset of water. In the imperial 8.... lake and lightning. Lake is extremely passive and not even in the communal way of earth, heaven doesn;t have the patience for wallowing or laying traps or absorbing things.
If Gan Guangli had attended Shenhua's year in the outer sect:
Haha.... I think he'd probably admire her, and she'd find him very funny lol
I could see them becoming friends
Toddler Renxiang:
Nah even as a lil girl crx was the sort of child to solemnly hand her caretaker a measuring stick so they could play a complex wargame on her bedroom floor.
Passing down Eight Phase ceremony:
A sufficient amount of quality jade and some base level formations knowledge. It is not too difficult. You could encode EPC or create a low level variant of Songseekers to be direct, but its going to be very finicky about who can successfully pick it up
the conditions are basically that the person jives well with the moon patronage and the moons are interested
Empire board games:
The games imperial china had for sure, mahjong and go and all that
but there is a fair amount of much more complicated boardgames usually developed as training tools or methods for big brain cultivators of tactics and strategy to challenge each other without doing bad nono things
How Ji Rong killed the Red and his stay in the outer sect:
He did not, it was mostly built around luring the guy into an old house rigged to catch fire and collapse and grappling him down while the smoke and falling debris did its job. You could say he was blessed with good fortune that it worked though, and that he didn't die too.
his first roomate was a minor noble who he drove away by being a prickly ass, and after that it was basically a rotation of who was on the outs of the male social circles until he was strong enough to say fuck off this house is mine.
The south if the Sage Rapist hadn't been fried by his last victim:
He'd probably have been able to conquer the ice tribes in the mountains, and kick over a bunch of clouds but also the Cloud Tribe are very good at killing dragons and they were even better at it back then. I think he'd probably have stalled out somewhere in the mountains without a proper eye catching prize to keep him motivated. He may have also run into problems with [redacted](Territorial or uh otherwise)
well the Hill tribes might actually have been better off, since they'd prolly get rolled and told they were weilu now but there wouldn't have been as much focus on breaking them. Probably even more divided cause of that. the Wall would be a mess though.
White Sky theological fistfighting over the prospect of having to interact directly with Imperial high realms:
It is extremely tense, but so far they have managed to restrain the academics and priests from actual fistfights over doctrine, though at least one small table has been flipped.
Work is progressing though and both sides are beginning to truly grok what the others are about to their mutual horror.
Shenhua vs Imperial beauty standards:
Shenhua is of course, divisive, many find her appearance coarse and unwomanly, and theres been a fairly big pushback by the more traditional types to maintain current standards, but yes, there are definitely some cracks there
Clan art diversity:
I would say a count clan will almost always have a very thorough exploration of almost every direction you could take its core theme, with a moderate amount of diversity branching into adjacent themes. See the Bao for example having a lot of stuff related to mining, travel fortification, and organization
or the Meng having history and myth and songs around their core of illusion and mystery
Spread of Sublime-descended spiritbloods:
There are several factors. First the truly ancient clans all have ascended cultivators laws reinforcing the primacy of their bloodline so it never fades fully. Secondly you have the causation backwards. Its not that sublime potential makes a spirit beast more randy for human loving, its that being deeply connected to generations of human cultivators provides a strong boost to the beast in the form of ancestor reverence so they tend stronger to begin with, Finally all current sublimes are key to their cultures founding myths and this embeds their power in the success of these cultures
Ling household reaction to Ling Qi getting barbecued:
Mostly varying levels of awe, they don't really get it, but assisted the provinces greatest general in striking down a traitor translates well. There's also pity for Qingge worry for her health and a certain degree of pride
Golden Autumn School funding:
The funding has ticked up with the Renxiang connection more nobles tossing change their way as a token show of support for the heiress and all.
How common it is for the strongest beast of a clan to not be the oldest:
Due to the resonance and ancestor worship aspects involved the oldest is almost always the strongest spirit beast, but sometimes a beast will become decrepit and be surpassed by a descendant, they don't usually live too long after that though.
If high realm cultivators all have bound spirits:
Its largely a matter of being able to support their qi cost and pay the social dues necessary to keep your spirits on board and aligned
the opportunnity cst and the rarity of spirits of appropriate grade being the reason that spirit beast partnerships peak in the third and fourth realms and gradually become less common after that
as the partners who don't break through age out and die off or become irrelevant in cultivator combat

Many spirits do 'age' see Xiulans forest fire spirit whose natural lifespan is measured in hours, or sixiang who could have easily dissolved back into the general muse pool. But even if they don't they tend to cap out or become fixed to a place or person
Soft stopping point for developing personal arts:
Generally by the time you're done cyan I think your personal art set will be mostly done and you'll just be developing and growing your own power set, new arts at that point are things you spin off or design for your descendants and allies. You will probably develop at least one more art for entering soverenty though this is probably bringing your stuff into a final cohesive whole though.
Grandpa Scorpion and Grandma Tiger age:
Grandfather Fortress was Prism at the time of the Guo becoming dukes. Granny tiger was probably only indigo and beneath the handful of then sovereign tigers the Han had available at sixth realm. Grandfather Fortress' partner had ascended by that point by Granny tigers was still around along with their children.
Argent Peak Elders reaction to summit in general and Ling Qi's shenanigans in particular:
Mostly sorrow that they didn't keep her tempered with the idea that she's where she needs to be. Theres a bit of unhappiness over the Cloud stuff but they basically see it as the southern cloud being subjugated and civilized by the White Sky which is... good enough.
the raiding stops. Thats what matters.
Status of Yggdrasil:
the northern tree is 'scarred and cold' it is not dead
you would know if it was dead
Fox fuckery in the Empire:
The more malicious sort of fox definitely proliferated heavily under the Hui, the ambiance in those guys could probably spontaneously generate nogitsune's even aside from what they did with the Diao
but malicious foxes are somewhat common throughout the empire
though much less so in the lakes given it being kinda subtropical over there
and the GF ones got deaded in bird boom
Which Count clan has had the most ascensions:
Hmmm, prolly one of the peaks clans?
Which potential outer sect living arrangements would have been the most sitcom-y:
maybe Su Ling and CRX? that'd be a right mess
Kang and Ji Rong would be funny but brief?
Maybe Lu Feng and Kang for more long lasting comedy.
and kang getting seduced lol
Ah true! I had not considered Lu feng and Gan lol
ye Suyin and CRX would be... interesting?
I think Suyin might become very codependant and hero worshipy tho
Xiao Fen's outer sect roommate:
Ah, I don't think I considered it. Lets say it was some poor absolutely terrified peaks girl.
Tourism:
Hm, Vacation spots are rare and usually clan limited. There isn't really like public land as we understand it. So your clan might have a meditation retreat and maybe you even invite allies there, but the closest thing to like outright tourism are spots in the ducal capitals which have all been secure long enough to develop those things
So you go to Xiangmen or the capital of the sands for your theater, you go to Zhengjian for your terror tour aquatic festivities, you go to Shuilian city for tournaments and duels etc.
Grave ground zero:
Nothing below sovereign can survive for more than a minute or two in the center, granny tiger and the han patriarchs ability to briefly dip in for goodies and cultivation mats is a cornerstone of continuing Han strength
also the ashwalkers are are all more concentrated and intelligent there and will form up and hunt down intruders
hence why even a pair of prisms darts in scoops of goodies and gets the hell out
 
I'm confused why the Starless Shroud tech from Starless Night's Reflection would be used in conjunction with ZG's quest. They don't really seem to... match?
Yrs talked a bit about it in discord. It's supposed to be the full starless night's reflection and basically the art is being almost completely changed to a new one that fits Qi and Zhengui's themes better.
 
The more I think about it, I realize not only Hanyi but Zhengui's origins are also suspect and have potential links to foreign lands.

She spent a few nights like that , studying up on animal care and tortoise species in particular. The Volcanic Tyrant Tortoise was apparently native to the fiery islands of the northern ocean, only rarely appearing on the mainland, so the sects information was limited. They were classified as spirits of fire and mountain under the imperial system, and were noted as a temperamental and destructive species, prone to a great deal of collateral damage when angered. There was even less on the care for their young, as it seemed that the creatures rarely bred outside of their home islands. It seemed that they usually made their nests in lava fields and caldera's though.

It's been very recent," Ling Qi said. "Elder, may I ask, what were the beasts bound in your trial, the tortoise, the rotting dragon?"

The two spirits who could be said to be Zhengui's parents, one dead and eternally regenerating, the other chained and bound powering the Sect's formations.

Elder Ying pursed her lips. "Old sins. You aren't the first to make friends with foreigners, disciple. Though you might be the first to try to make it more. You know a certain Elder of the old Argent Peak Sect was a traveler of the world."

The sword saint, the grave with the broken sword, Xuan Shi's favorite author, who had died in Ogodei's invasion, holding back the invader so that the disciples of the Sect could evacuate. "Then why…"

"Wars are ugly things, and we make sacrifices, and debase ourselves to win them. In the tales the hero's virtue wins, but it is never so clean," Elder Ying said absently, gazing up at the sky. "Well, I have my oaths. You'll learn something of our sacrifices, running about in the liminal with your spirit beast."

Ling Qi wasn't fully happy with that answer, but she could feel the crushing pressure with which the word 'oaths' was spoken. It was not some idle promise she spoke of, but something soul deep, carved right into the base of the Elders cultivation.

"Thank you, Elder Ying. I will find my answers."

I'm so curious to see how this turns out. Could this lead to another diplomatic mission? At the very least I hope sooner or later we finally visit the Xuan territory so our younger brother can be among his people the same way Hanyi gets to visit the White Sky territory.
 
Bearing Destiny 2
For Rixiong, the journey south had seemed to pass in the flash. The strange death priest, the 'Agent of Integrity' he carefully reminded himself, as it was disrespectful to the spirits to misname their priests, was a funny little man. He was always squinting and hunching his shoulders, and scribbling in his little book. Rixiong wished he could read the scrawled text! He had many questions for Rixiong about his cultivation, which Rixiong had proudly answered. Like Mother, like her court he cultivated after the ways of the Great Zenith, the Noontide Sun, He Who Bears the Enemies of the World Upon His Back. Though he of course revered also the great Bountiful Earth, whose plenty provides for all.

He'd asked the funny masked man about his own god, and though he'd seemed surprised, he was happy to explain. Inexorable Justice sounded like a good god indeed, ensuring that villains could never slink away from their rightful punishments. The priest had ceased to frown and mutter so much after the first few days of heavy questioning.

And Rixiong didn't mind, because to him the world blurring outside of the carriage was fascinating. He had spent his entire life under the heavy canopy of the forest, at most finding time to sneak to its edge and peer at the little villages which bit into its edges and lived from the scraps of its bounty.

But he saw now things which dwarfed the little collections of human life, things which showed him how men could have built the fallen temples of stone and ancient bone and petrified wood which stood in the forest depths.

The carriage drove along a high ridge, and when the sun set, the bends of the river below glowed like a reflection of the starry sky above. This did not even speak to the sheer distance he could see, on clear days he saw land stretching out, hills and vales the canopies of forests like his own stretching out until his eyes could render them only as misty shapes.

And in the south the mountains rose and rose, higher than any tree save the great pillar itself. And it was to those mountains he went. It grew colder as they went along, and he was glad for the many heavy pelts he had brought with him. The funny priest had asked him if he wished to stop and receive some clothing. He was thankful but what need was there?

Soon though they drove at the base of the mountains and he understood why these were called 'The Wall' because the cloud piercing peaks were like unto a rampart of the gods, like he'd imagined the walls of the Zenith Fortress in mother's tales of the war with the Stars.

He felt his heart pound as they approached the outer mountain, the entrance to the Argent Peak Sect, which would be his home for years to come, if he understood everything correctly.

He'd been very excited, bounding from the carriage into the admittedly unsettling plaza -it was so strange to see trees arranged so artificially!- Taking the last bit of instruction on where to go, he'd greeted everyone he met proudly with his back straight and his head held high.

And he'd found himself surrounded by cold eyes and condescension. He was not very good at reading the faces of other humans, but even he could understand when he was being looked down upon. Perhaps he should have taken the offer of clothes? He hadn't thought it would matter, but he was the only one dressed so warmly? He had even thrown on his best cut wolf fur vest for the silver color though, so he still matched!

But that first day he'd been left confused and a little hurt, taking a seat alone as they waited for the honored Elder to arrive. The explanation that man had given had gone a bit over his head, but he understood that they were not to fight for three turns of the moon. The gift of spirit stones though, those were rich indeed! He had only ever had a few, to be rationed out over months. Hujian never said where he got them and Rixiong had never asked.

But for all that his cultivation soared in those few months, he found his attempts to speak with others rebuffed again and again. Even help and aid was looked upon with scorn!

Just as it was now

"And today, all of your insults will be repaid, you barking savage!" The other boy exclaimed, pointing the tip of a thin sword toward Rixong's nose. Behind him, two other young men, disciples in the final stage of the first realm, loomed and scowled.

Rixiong furrowed his brow. Standing on the edge of the training field for physical cultivation. He always arrived early, but today this was waiting for him. The announcement of the truce's end had not bothered him, but this.

"When have I insulted you Cao Yun?" Rixiong asked, befuddled. He bounced his spear of his shoulder, doing his best to contain his temper. It was a hard thing after these months, this confusion, all of these people refusing to explain themselves.

"Do not play the fool. Every day you have criticized my swordplay, my footwork, my stance. You speak as if you were my instructor and not the elder, and I am not alone in this," the tall, thin boy growled, his cheeks reddened with temper. "Just because the others fear your raw cultivation, do not think you can get away with it."

"...But your stances are poor. Look even now, your feet are placed wrong for a high stance," Rixiong said blankly."It is not my fault you refuse to correct."

Hujian had drilled into him again and again that an error, even a small one, was death in a hunt, that the body must be practiced until it moves without conscious thought. He did not want any of his Brother and Sister Disciples to die, just as Hujian did not want him to die. So of course he would point out where they were in error.

"What do you know of proper styles and stances, you bound around and swing your spear like a stick, it's only that ridiculous strength that gives you victory in spars," Cao Yun said. "But enough talk! I am challenging you to a duel! When I have victory, you will cease your insults forever after."

Rixiong's grip on his spear tightened, he looked around and saw the scattering of other disciples watching. He did not understand what they wanted of him, but he did have the feeling they all wanted to see him lose. It made a hot spark of fury jump in his chest. Why were his fellow humans so difficult.

"Fine. Cao Yun, I will duel you, and when I have victory, you will listen to my words!" He snapped back, baring his teeth. "Do you wish to do this now?"

"Of course, I have no need to cringe away, We duel to yield or third touch" Cao Yun said, raising his chin. He gestured to the two other boys who had been flanking him backed off, and Cao Yun himself paced away to the edge of the nearest ring.

"Accepted," Rixiong followed after him, with rolling stomping steps, cracking his neck. This was a duel, well and proper, finally he could vent this rage in his heart honorably! He planted his spear in the earth, and brought his fists together in front of his chest with a thump. "O great sun, O Zenith, I dedicate this battle to your glory, a pale reflection of the endless war."

Cao Yun regarded him with some surprise as he recited his prayer.

"Well? Make your dedication," Rixiong barked.

"...I dedicate this battle to the glory of the Empire, O Dragon of Order, may the Jade Archivist record even this small match to the litany of Imperial valor," Cao Yun said stiffly.

"...Archaic nonsense…"

"Why play along?..."

"Where does the savage get, acting so refined…"

Rixiong ignored the words whispered around them, but lowered his spear, hid expression half smile and half snarl. Whatever! He would figure that nonsense out later, his opponent was behaving properly at least!

One of the boys who had been with Cao Yun cleared his throat and raised his hand. "On my mark!"

Rixiong's foot slid back in the dirt. Cao Yun's stance shifted. It was still wrong but it was practiced.

"Begin!"
Rixiong rushed forward, with an ursine bellow a rough sound not meant for human lungs that rattled the gravel strewn across the bare dirt, his spear flying ahead like the claw of a diving raptor, a movement that had shattered the guard of many of his fellow disciples in spars.

Cao Yun's sword twisted, screeching as jade inlaid steel slapped against the haft of his spear and twisted, batting it aside, using his own momentum against him. Rixiong reacted on instinct, twisting his head and shoulder to the side to avoid the darting riposte.

He skidded, foot dragging up a plume of dust as he reoriented, and a few strands of his hair drifted to the earth. He felt a trickle of wetness on his cheek.

Cao Yun reset his stance. Glaring past the angled edge of his blade silently.

…Hujian would sear his ears. In his frustration, he had forgotten the first rule of combat.

Never fail to respect your opponent.

He would apologize later. He kicked off the earth with a muffled boom and blasted ahead, low slung, spear out to the side. The sword darted out again, like a fish twisting through the water to avoid the spear. Rixiong adjusted his grip, let the spear point be batted aside, and spun the weapon with the motion instead, setting his legs solidly and swinging the but up under the arc of the twisting blade to bash through the hasty guard raised with a heavy thump.

Cao Yun let out a sharp wheezing hiss as he stepped into the blow, swordpoint darting in like a hornet, forcing Rixiong back.

They both reset their stances, eyeing one another across the dirt. "One for each of us," Rixiong said.

His opponent nodded tersely.

Steel and wood met again with a crack.

In the end, it was Rixiong who scored the third blow, sending his opponent sprawling.

But it didn't feel like a victory. Because he'd been wrong. Cao Yun's stances and motions were not wrong, they were just not the ones Rixiong knew. He should have understood this, when the Elder did not make corrections. More than that the other boy was more skilled with his weapon than Rixiong was with his.

He was just stronger. How bitter.

Looking down at his defeated foe, red faced and fuming, he bowed. "This Rixiong apologizes. I have been rude."
"You…" Cao Yun fumed, pushing himself up from the. He was nearly grinding his teeth.

"Listen. You gave your oath," Rixiong growled. "My words in training were wrong. I apologize for my insult, it was not intended."

He thrust his hand out to the other boy, staring down.

Cao Yun met his gaze, and the glare wavered. Rixiong kept his hand extended. After a long minute, he took Rixiong's hand, wincing as he was pulled to his feet.

"...I will consider the matter dropped then," Cao Yun said.

"So will I!" Rixiong said brightly, clapping him on the shoulder. "If you wish to spar I will do it. You are very fast!"

"And you are… too strong," Cao Yun grunted, glancing at his hand with some disdain. But it was a wavering thing. Progress, maybe? "...But if you understand the truth of your words that is enough."

He brushed Rixiong off and turned away, leaving him frowning at the taller boys back. He supposed that was the best he could expect.

"You are an odd one, aren't you. Just when I thought I had you understood, you go and do a thing like that."
 
It's the school Ling Qi talked to that old matron about back during our trip in Xiangmen. It's run by some old cultivators sponsoring a school so some poor kids can learn and maybe past the test of the (mortal) ministries. They sent a few of their best students to our town to give them a job and is iirc even a small admin bonus for us.
 
poor kids can learn and maybe past the test of the (mortal) ministries.
Not mortal ministries tou. It was mentioned they are training cultivators of lesser talent as administrators and prospective Ministries -that is actual cultivator ones-.

It was noted that they were losing money and considered it a charity mostly but it only exist because Duchess Shenhua has started doing centrelised blind tests in order to stop nepotism. So they-poor lesser talents- have a chance. Even that one Dio was grouching about that.
 
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I hope Rixiong gets to meet Ling Qi and enter the husbando wars, I mean, enter the main narrative. I'm really enjoying his story.

As for the vote, the setup is definitely stronger for

[X] The Sins that Crawl

But

[X] River God's Envy

Might be better for the upcoming events.
Oh well, guess I'll just vote for both and not help either side.
 
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