Threads Of Destiny(Eastern Fantasy, Sequel to Forge of Destiny)

Voted best in category in the Users' Choice awards.
"Having your Way taken up by others" strikes me exactly as what Dzintara was refering to when she said that "stable" can mean many things, good and bad.
After all, dictatorial regimes are also perpetuated by right of inheritance, not only by the present dictator personal power. While the long life span of cultivators muddle things up, you only have to look at all the ancient and long-standing clans of the Empire to see that it's still true.
Having a clan's Way perpetuated through their descendents can lead to a situation extending through generations and degrading further and further. Case on point, the Bai and the Imperial Dynasties.
That's why the WS don't really have "noble families", even if in practice they have prominent clans that tend to hold ruling positions.
I'd argue that striving for the goal of "having one's way taken up" in the context of Expression is the opposite of restricting one's Way (in the philosophical sense) to one's inheritors. Ling Qi's Arts will be kept to the Ling family, but the philosophy behind them is public, and she wouldn't have it any other way IMO
 
Expression is a really cool concept that it feels like we don't see as often as Motion or Want in terms of concept votes, so I'm a bit biased there, but in terms of pairing with Power... especially in terms of how it's been presented here, I think Power+Expression is something that presents an argument best representative of a larger Imperial point of view, given that it's based explicitly on Imperial etiquette and the way that the Empire at large manages its way of cultivation and its incredibly powerful cultivators.

Power+Motion seems to me to present a more Emerald Seas-local base of argument, considering that the Nightmare of Forever is something we've encountered in this southern section of the world, and something that feeds especially on Emerald Seas and its own cycles of work to escape the misery - but nonetheless which hasn't actually caused the region to give up. And, like, is there ANY living being that more powerfully represents Power+Motion the way Ling Qi tends to think of it than Cai Shenhua?

Between these two, I would probably usually be more interested in advancing the Motion argument that I feel to be more province-centric, but the diplomatic project at this point is really thoroughly involved with Imperial politics as much as anything else, with how many provincial scions have made a point of showing up (and with the massive Western contingent), so it probably makes the most sense to try to convince Dzintara of wider Imperial merits.

[X] Expression
 
Torn between this and expression, but i think i'm leaning motion:
[X] Motion

It was no accident. Cui set it up.
Cui didn't understand that you could NOT like someone romantically if you did all the romance steps.
I mean, at least in the ebook version, the 'can you use your terror aura on me?' was all Ling Qi's idea. Cui was definitely teasing Meizhen about things at some points, but otherwise i'm pretty sure the only time she tried to "set it up" wrt Ling Qi was when LQ asked what she could do to help repay meizhen and cui suggested gifting a locket? Still a little curious on whether that was actually cui suggesting a specific theft, or if that was just Ling Qi's street urchin assumption and really it was just cui saying "she likes jewelry" in general or the like :p

Speaking of my ebook reread, i had a thought for this question i got asked earlier:
I'm curious, what votes do you wish had different outcomes?
Back in the initial post-truce thunderdome, the vote to go shopping after the first fight...i'm pretty sure some of the foreshadowing of li suyin's injuries were added in the edits, but i know even on my first read, which was mostly/entirely on the forum at that early point, i was worried about her and su ling and baffled that checking up on them didn't get the win there... obviously li suyin getting the wakeup call was important both to her character growth and to the narrative, but i think that could have been done without the actual maiming if LQ had gone to check on them...
 
Zero
On the desk in front of her, small cut red stones glittered within their jade coffer. Three hundred red spirit stones. Enough to buy a small, tidy manor in the ruling district of Tonghou, the sort of place a high mortal administrator or army officer might live in their retirement. Ling Qi had handed her this amount for the budget of this project without even pausing to think about it.

She herself used four entire stones a month for her own cultivation. Her daughter judged that she might need to increase that to eight within the year, when she reached this 'middle' stage of the red realm.

It did not bother her as much as it once had, but she still felt her hands tremble a little as she gingerly touched the coffer. She knew it was a trivial amount to her daughter, a bare fraction of the amount used to merely buy feed for her daughter's spirit companion.

"Mama! Look!"

Biyu's cheerful exclamation shook her from her thoughts. She looked up to the corner of the room she had set aside in the office for Biyu while she worked. An inexpensive mat spread over the floor, waxy paper pinned to the walls and a little 'table' much like her own desk. Her daughter liked it, as it allowed her to pretend to be 'working' too.

Biyu was smiling brightly at her, holding up the sheet of thin cut parchment she had been given. The top half was smeared with smudgy blue interrupted by splotches of white and a single yellow spot, the bottom half was green, with smudgy blots of color on either side. In the center was a crude figure of black lines, with two messy squiggles attached to its 'head'.

Ling Qingge glanced at her daughter's pigtails. "Ah, did you enjoy playing in the garden yesterday, Biyu?"

"Mm!" her daughter confirmed. Ling Qingge's gaze strayed to the paint smeared brush lying haphazardly on the tabletop, next to a dribbling stream of spilled paint. It was a masterpiece of craftsmanship. Three hundred stones felt like immense wealth. The paints for her daughter were even more frivolous, but a true immortal talisman of such quality… her former clan had sold its members for far less.

But Ling Qi had been insistent that letting Biyu play with it was the best method for cleaning it. She had not… entirely explained that, only that a child's innocence would wash away the memory of its previous owner. She had sworn it was safe though, and Ling Qingge had not the heart to refuse, even if seeing it grasped in her childs pudgy fist made a part of her want to faint.

"That is very good," Ling Qingge said. "You should put it down and let it dry now though, else the paint will run."

"No!" Biyu said, eyes wide, she turned quickly to put her piece back down in a space clear of stains fresh or dry.
Ling Qingge took a deep breath and stood, taking up the coffer full of stones. She could put this off no longer. "Follow me Biyu. Min Hua will take you to the bath."

Biyu frowned, frowned, hurrying after her, the little smock she wore over her gown when playing with paints flapping. "Can I play splash?"

"I am sure that she will let you play if you are good, and do not struggle during the wash," Ling Qingge said calmly as she opened the door of the study.

"That I will, little one. Were you good for your Mother?"

Her friend, Min Hua, and now Biyu's Nanny stepped forward, and to her credit did not grimace much at the paint stained child. "My it seems you were busy."

"I made a pretty picture for Sis-y! I was quiet too, let Mama think!" Biyu chirped happily, nodding her head.

"Well, I've filled your bath for you little Biyu, why don't we go along. Your Mother has to speak with the others now," the elderly woman said, offering her hand.

"Okay, bye Mama!"

"Goodbye, Biyu, I will see you at dinner," Ling Qingge said kindly. She met Min Hua's eyes.

"All the youngsters are ready, Madam cultivator," the elderly woman said, dipping her head.

Ling Qingge straightened her shoulders, and nodded.

Parting from Min Hua and Biyu, she passed down the hall, toward the manor's sitting room. Entering, she looked over those present. Children and young adults ranging from twelve to twenty or so, what she understood to be prime cultivating age. Mostly girls, a few boys, sons and grandsons at the younger end. All dressed in what passed for the livery of the Ling Clan, lined up and kneeling formally at attention. The elders helped the younger manage anyway. There were twelve in total.

"Welcome," Ling Qingge said. She did not allow her voice to quaver, to these children she was the head of household, and soon their instructor, even if she was only passing on her daughters lessons. "All of you here today have been honored, for Baroness Ling has agreed to open the clan coffers and test you for cultivation. Remember her generosity and show loyalty to the clan, whether you succeed or fail, and the Ling clan will treat you well."

Goodness, how strange her own voice sounded to her ears as she shut the door behind her, and strode to the table set in the center of the room. The furnishings had been dragged away, straw mats placed instead in two rows. Apparently there could be some leakage at awakening, expelled impurities, even if the worst came later. She placed the coffer cradled in her arms upon the table with a click that resounded in the silence, and let them all see the glittering contents. "These are red spirit stones. Each one contains qi, the source of cultivation. To become a cultivator, you must be able to extract the energy within and use it to ignite your own. That will be your first task here."

Curiosity or incomprehension from the youngest. Eagerness, and hope and uncertainty in the middle. A certain desperate hunger in the oldest. It was as expected. She did not know how many would be able to do this. She had tried to research the matter, but what little was available to her was too full of inconsistency to draw any conclusions.

"Do not be discouraged if it does not come immediately. Lady Ling is generous, and has made allowances. You will have one month to try. And will each be provided with one stone each week. Those who succeed at awakening, or show signs of nearing it…"

She paused. There was uncertainty there. "You will be given resources to continue on, until Lady Ling decides your proper training regime. Am I understood?"

"Yes Madam Ling!"

The chorus of answers was a little ragged and unsure, but eager all the same.

"Now, I will call each of you up to get a stone, once everyone has theirs, I will begin instruction. There are to be no interruptions while I am speaking. Save any questions for when I am done," Ling Qingge said. "Now, to begin… Min Leidi, please stand take your stone and select a mat."

The first of the prospects, her friend's granddaughter, rose. She was fourteen, a slim, graceful girl, a little too tall, her features a little too square to be called a beauty, her dull brown hair tied back in a braid. Ling Qingge could see a bit of her grandmother's determination in the set of her jaw.

Ling Qingge wished for her fortune. If only for her friend's sake. She wished it to all of them. Whatever madness lay at the higher realms, there was only benefit in awakening.
 
Huh. It seems like the household cultivation actions have started behind the scenes. Hopefully, we'll learn more about it in House of Ling.

I hope Min Leidi manages to breakthrough!
 
Biyu is precious! And I can just hear the Hui spinning in their graves. I hope Ling Qi eventually mentions what happened to the paint brush to someone who hates them.

What are the odds out of 12 for awakening, do you think? What sorts of talents?
 
We'll probably not see too many awakening but people on par with the lesser talents maybe a midling one (People on par with local guards).
(Ling Qi should maybe consider the fact they don't have an 6th(?) realm elder teaching them the ropes)
 
It's always a treat to read about Qingge and Biyu. It's nice to see that Ling Qi did go through with Renxiang's father suggestion of using the Hui brush for mundane painting to clean it of bad vibes.
I wonder, what style will Biyu take as a cultivator? There have been omakes of her as an archer or a dancer, and now we have her using a potent talisman brush.
We'll have to wait to the timeskips to find out.

It's also good that Ling Qingge is going forward with the plan to try and awake their servants as cultivators, so they can become the foundation of the Ling Clan's vassal clans.
One question, though. Was there a vote about taking Ling Qingge's previous coworkers and their families as servants?
I remember Qingge asking Ling Qi, and the Count clan scions' derision for accepting. (Including Wang Chao, how things change). But I read that on royalroad so I don't know the involved votes.
 
One question, though. Was there a vote about taking Ling Qingge's previous coworkers and their families as servants?
I remember Qingge asking Ling Qi, and the Count clan scions' derision for accepting. (Including Wang Chao, how things change). But I read that on royalroad so I don't know the involved votes.
Yep. Turn 1, Arc 1-5
"You are perceptive," Ling Qingge replied with a self deprecating smile, her eyes resting on the table. "It is a selfish request, but… do you think it may be possible that I might hire some acquaintances from Tonghou? Good young ladies all, whose families merely fell into misfortune I assure you. The Sect staff will not follow us after all, and it is important that you have a proper household…"

Ling Qi leaned back in her seat, understanding why her mother called this a selfish request. The people she referred to were obviously ones who shared her profession. Ling Qi was no expert at noble politics but even she could see that something like this could be… damaging to one's reputation.

She could do it she knew. She had enough credit with Cai Renxiang that something like this would hardly cause the heiress to reprimand her but… was it worth making her family's life more difficult? Meeting her mothers eyes, it was clear that she thought it was…

[] Accept Mother's request (-2 Yellow stones)
[] Reject Mother's request, allow her to look for potential hires in the village though
[] Put Mothers request off, you can revisit it when you are moving out of the sect.
 
The Biyu and Qingge side stories are always a joy. To see and perceive the climb from someone gazing up from closer to the base and so closely tied gives actions a lot more impact and reverberation, especially for something so core as the household.
 
Can I just say I am so happy we're finally getting to meet our household again thanks to taking House of Ling this turn.

I've always kind of regretted that we didn't take time to meet them when they first showed up during FoD, though I feel like we've at least taken some steps to fix that with that big party we threw for them earlier in ToD (don't remember what turn it was but it involved a Zhengui Hot Tub).

So far our household has only gotten fleeting glances of our Ling Qi-ness which have been difficult for them to discern from Cultivatorness, now that some of them are actively becoming Cultivators I look forward to Ling Qi being on the other side of Early Cultivating Turns Befuddlement

For example, didn't our Spiritual Cultivation Teacher just kind of show up out of nowhere one day one and casually let her Spirit Beast out during one of our lessons, plus while the House of Ling already knows Zhengui (though they may not have seen him fun-sized) and I think they know not to question the fact that we have an Ice Spirit as our adopted little sister I can't recall anyone being introduced to our Moon Rave Enby as anything other than a mysterious voice.

And if things work out for her is anyone interested in a Ming Linhe Quest Omake in the future I'd do it myself but haven't written an omake before.

edit: Yes I know we've literally just met this girl but I've been hoping for a consistent viewpoint character for the Ling Household that wasn't directly related to us and it's also been a long time since we had a Negaverse Omake.
 
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"Mm!" her daughter confirmed. Ling Qingge's gaze strayed to the paint smeared brush lying haphazardly on the tabletop, next to a dribbling stream of spilled paint. It was a masterpiece of craftsmanship. Three hundred stones felt like immense wealth. The paints for her daughter were even more frivolous, but a true immortal talisman of such quality… her former clan had sold its members for far less.

But Ling Qi had been insistent that letting Biyu play with it was the best method for cleaning it. She had not… entirely explained that, only that a child's innocence would wash away the memory of its previous owner. She had sworn it was safe though, and Ling Qingge had not the heart to refuse, even if seeing it grasped in her childs pudgy fist made a part of her want to faint.
What good are immortal treasures if you sell your children for them!
Nobody would play with them that way!
 
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